Clovis Merovingian
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Sept 13, 2019 6:05:36 GMT
So, what follows is a bunch of thoughts i've been having on American Identity, immigration, historical grievances, culture etc so here goes. There is myth in the United States that the United States is a "nation of immigrants." This myth was invented yesterday. If you were to go back to the time of the founding fathers and tell them that America was a nation of immigrants, they would look at you with a puzzled look. This myth really didn't come into being until the 20th century. This myth holds that Americans except for the "Native Americans" (more on them later) all come from somewhere else, are all immigrants, and thus have no right to ban anyone from coming into our country. Its a stupid little myth used to justify open borders and to deny the American state right to determine who they would count as American citizens.
Every time someone spouts this nation of immigrant nonsense to me, I always ask them where they immigrated from. They will usually answer that their ancestor came from Ireland, Germany, England, Africa, or some other nationality. I then respond, "I didn't ask you where your ancestors immigrated from, I asked where YOU immigrated from." The point here is obviously made. This person who i'm talking too usually speaking with a general American accent, and having been born and living their entire lives in the United States of America is NOT an immigrant. I am not an immigrant. I was born here and so are the vast, VAST majority of people I know. The majority of people I know speak with a perfect American or Lowland Southern American accent and are culturally deep southern American.
Yes, my ancestors did come from many places in Northern Europe, in my case before the United States even existed. Yes, there were people here before them that were conquered and supplanted by my ancestors. So what? The Japanese are not the first people to live in Japan; they conquered and supplanted and outnumbered the Ainu living there before them. Does that make Japan a nation of immigrants? If you were to tell the Japanese that they were a nation of immigrants and thus must open their borders to the entire world they would laugh in your face and they should. The truth is that in most places on this planet some group of people came in and displaced or culturally dominated an earlier group of people and made that land their own.
Native American tribes did this in fact. The Lakota Sioux who often complain about how European Americans stole "their" sacred black hills stole that land from the Cheyenne Indians. Indian tribes warred with, conquered, displaced, enslaved, and stole land from other Indians with a great deal of regularity. That's how things were done back then all over the world. It was a more barbaric time.
The Anglo Saxons conquered England from the Britains and dominated them to the point that they were culturally dominant. Their descendants that live there are now called the English. The Germans arrived from Scandinavia and pushed far south into modern day Germany slaughtering and dominating the tribes that lived there. Their descendants are Germans. Then there is the case of the Japanese, the Turks in Turkey, the Aryans in India (among others), the Arabs in North Africa, and the Indo European peoples of Europe themselves, and for that matter the various Native American tribes, and the Bantu of South Africa. Would anyone dare say that these peoples are not Natives of their current land?
Is anyone going to question that the Japanese, or the English, the Zulu, the Turks, or the Arabs are not Natives? I will say this right now, I as white as I am, I am a NATIVE AMERICAN! This continent, the American continent is my Native land. My ancestors may have come from all over Europe and while I do respect them and cherish that heritage, I am not European. I was born in the United States of America in the Deep South and I am culturally like everyone else in my region.
My point is that The United States is not a nation of immigrants but a nation of AMERICANS just like Japan is a nation of Japanese, England is a nations of English, and Switzerland (perhaps a more comparable example) is a nation of Swiss. The American state is a sovereign state and the American people are a sovereign people and they have the right to deny or accept anyone for immigration to their country for any reason whatsoever. Nobody has a right to come here just because our ancestors came from somewhere else unless you not willing to extend the Japanese the same courtesy.
Now, the American people are not a nation in the classical sense of the word. The USA and for that matter Canada, and Mexico are made up of many regional nations with very distinct cultures and values based on who first settled in a given area. The Puritans, Dutch, Spanish, French, Scots Irish, Quakers, Cavaliers, and Anglo Barbadians are cultural groups that settled different parts of the continent and created very different cultures with values so different that the gulf between their worldviews is far more different than any two European Union member states. But that is a post for another time.
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Clovis Merovingian
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Meta-Ethnicity: Anglo-American
Ethnicity: Deep Southerner
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Region: The Deep South
Location: South Carolina
Ancestry: Gaelic (patrilineal), English, Ulster Scots/Scots Irish, Scottish, German, Swiss German, Swedish, Manx, Finnish, Norman French/Quebecois (distantly), Dutch (distantly)
Taxonomy: Borreby/Alpine/ Nordid mix
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Religion: Christian
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Philosophy: I try to find out what is true as best I can.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Sept 13, 2019 6:32:09 GMT
Also, I should be quick to point out that this has nothing to do with race. I don't care about race, I care about culture.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Sept 13, 2019 19:16:42 GMT
And we are left with understanding basic identity properties in logic....
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Clovis Merovingian
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Region: The Deep South
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Ancestry: Gaelic (patrilineal), English, Ulster Scots/Scots Irish, Scottish, German, Swiss German, Swedish, Manx, Finnish, Norman French/Quebecois (distantly), Dutch (distantly)
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Philosophy: I try to find out what is true as best I can.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Sept 13, 2019 19:40:53 GMT
And we are left with understanding basic identity properties in logic.... Yes, the problem is that most American "liberals" don't understand these basic identity properties.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Sept 13, 2019 19:54:45 GMT
And we are left with understanding basic identity properties in logic.... Yes, the problem is that most American "liberals" don't understand these basic identity properties. And most conservatives don't either, and yet both do...their identities are grounded in an interplay of values both of which continually change and progress.
The grounding of conservative is valued in a classical type of logic, the inherent substance behind "being" (business, family, martialism...all groundings of "structure").
The grounding of liberalism is valued in a romantic type of logic, the inherent form of emotion that gives passion or force to "life".
Neither are inherently good and both change given time. The "family structure" which determined most liberal endeavors is now the linchpin of the conservative movement. The "big business" of conservatism is now the grounding of liberalism under the variation of "big government" as a socialistic corporate entity...
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Post by Διαμονδ on Sept 15, 2019 7:01:59 GMT
Every year (maybe a day) immigrants from all over the world go to in America. If I am not mistaken, workers from India are constantly traveling to the Silicon Valley.
So America is still in the migration system.. All that American identity does is education, food, and some cultural aspects. It is known that even first-generation Americans are adapting to this, even gaining a specific American accent.
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Clovis Merovingian
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Region: The Deep South
Location: South Carolina
Ancestry: Gaelic (patrilineal), English, Ulster Scots/Scots Irish, Scottish, German, Swiss German, Swedish, Manx, Finnish, Norman French/Quebecois (distantly), Dutch (distantly)
Taxonomy: Borreby/Alpine/ Nordid mix
Y-DNA: R-S660/R-DF109
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Politics: Conservative
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Sept 16, 2019 4:27:58 GMT
Every year (maybe a day) immigrants from all over the world go to in America. If I am not mistaken, workers from India are constantly traveling to the Silicon Valley. So America is still in the migration system.. All that American identity does is education, food, and some cultural aspects. It is known that even first-generation Americans are adapting to this, even gaining a specific American accent. A country having immigrants doesn't make it a nation of immigrants. Britain has immigrants as does the rest of Western Europe. As for American identity, it is way more complicated than education, food, and some cultural aspects. Those things differ heavily regionally. There is not one America, there are many different regional cultures with their own culture, values, dialects, educational, ethnographical, political leanings, material cultures, histories, and even food. The Puritan settled Northern tier of New England, Upstate New York, and the Upper Midwest are a cultural polar opposite of my region the Deep South which has its origins in the slave states of the Caribbean. There are about 11 of these regions in the United States all different from one another.
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Post by karl on Sept 16, 2019 6:19:36 GMT
Every year (maybe a day) immigrants from all over the world go to in America. If I am not mistaken, workers from India are constantly traveling to the Silicon Valley. So America is still in the migration system.. All that American identity does is education, food, and some cultural aspects. It is known that even first-generation Americans are adapting to this, even gaining a specific American accent. A country having immigrants doesn't make it a nation of immigrants. Britain has immigrants as does the rest of Western Europe. As for American identity, it is way more complicated than education, food, and some cultural aspects. Those things differ heavily regionally. There is not one America, there are many different regional cultures with their own culture, values, dialects, educational, ethnographical, political leanings, material cultures, histories, and even food. The Puritan settled Northern tier of New England, Upstate New York, and the Upper Midwest are a cultural polar opposite of my region the Deep South which has its origins in the slave states of the Caribbean. There are about 11 of these regions in the United States all different from one another.
Do you see these 11 different regions being as culturally distinct from each other as 11 different European nations?
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Clovis Merovingian
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Ancestry: Gaelic (patrilineal), English, Ulster Scots/Scots Irish, Scottish, German, Swiss German, Swedish, Manx, Finnish, Norman French/Quebecois (distantly), Dutch (distantly)
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Politics: Conservative
Religion: Christian
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Sept 16, 2019 6:52:18 GMT
A country having immigrants doesn't make it a nation of immigrants. Britain has immigrants as does the rest of Western Europe. As for American identity, it is way more complicated than education, food, and some cultural aspects. Those things differ heavily regionally. There is not one America, there are many different regional cultures with their own culture, values, dialects, educational, ethnographical, political leanings, material cultures, histories, and even food. The Puritan settled Northern tier of New England, Upstate New York, and the Upper Midwest are a cultural polar opposite of my region the Deep South which has its origins in the slave states of the Caribbean. There are about 11 of these regions in the United States all different from one another.
Do you see these 11 different regions being as culturally distinct from each other as 11 different European nations?
Well, it depends on what you mean by that question. Linguistically they all speak English (well, some speak French and Spanish) and have a lot of superficial similarities such as that but as far as cultural values the answer is yes. There is more of a difference in values between Mississippi and Vermont than there are between say France and Germany for instance even though France and Germany have different languages and have gone to war with each other. Actually Mississippi (and by extension the Deep South) and Vermont (and by extension the greater New England area) went to war with each other as well in the Civil War so . The American Civil War was actually led on opposite sides by those two regions mentioned. In the beginning only the states then controlled by the Deep South (South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Florida, and Texas) seceded from the Union to protect slavery while only Yankee Greater New England controlled states (the New England States, New York, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minnesota) wanted to go to war to bring them back into the Union. Of course the Fort Sumter incident changed that. Here's a map of the American Regions and a description of their culture. There's a book about this called American Nations: A History of the 11 Rival Regional Cultures of North America by Colin Woodard www.amazon.com/American-Nations-History-Regional-Cultures/dp/0143122029 where the map and descriptions below come from. There's also a load of other literature on this subject that I can recommend if you're interested in the subject. Yankeedom: Founded on the shores of Massachusetts Bay as a Calvinist New Zion, Yankeedom from the outset placed a great emphasis on education, local political control, and communal utilitarianism even at the price of individual self-denial. Yankees have the greatest faith in the potential of government to improve people's lives, tending to see it as an extension of the citizenry and a bulwark against aristocrats, corporations, or outside powers. Yankee history has been characterized by by a conscious project to build a more perfect society through social engineering, relatively extensive citizen involvement in the political process, and the aggressive assimilation of foreigners. Settled by stable, educated families, Yankeedom has always had a middle-class ethos and considerable respect for intellectual achievement. The religious zeal has waned, but the heritage of "secular Puritanism" lives on. Yankeedom has been locked in nearly perpetual conflict with the Deep South for control of the federal government since the moment such a thing existed. New Netherland: Modeled on its namesake, the short-lived colony of New Amsterdam was from the start a global commercial trading society: a multi-ethnic, multi-religious, speculative, materialistic, mercantile, free trading, raucous, and not-entirely democratic city-state where no one ethnic or religious group has ever been in charge. New Netherland nurtured two Dutch innovations considered "subversive" by most European states: a profound tolerance of diversity and an unflinching commitment to the freedom of inquiry. Forced on other nations at the Constitutional Convention, these ideas have been passed down in the Bill of Rights. While losing the upper Hudson and Delaware Valleys to Yankeedom and the Midlands, respectively, New Netherlands is today comprised of the five boroughs of New York City, the lower Hudson Valley, northern New Jersey, western Long Island, and southwestern Connecticut. A center of global commerce, New Netherland has long been the front door for immigrants, who've made it the most densely populated part of North America. Its population is greater than that of many European nations and its influence over North American media, publishing, fashion and intellectual and economic life is hard to overstate. The Midlands: Arguably the most "American" of nations, the Midlands was founded by English Quakers who welcomed people of many nations and creeds to their utopian colonies on the shoes of Delaware Bay. Pluralistic and organized around the middle-class, the Midlands spawned the culture of Middle America and the Heartland, where ethnic and ideological purity have never been a priority, government has been seen as an unwelcome intrusion, and political opinion has been moderate to apathetic. The only part of British North America to have a non-British majority in 1775, the Midlands has long been an ethnic mosaic dominated since the 1600s by Germans. Like Yankees, Midlanders believe society should be organized to benefit ordinary people, but they are extremely skeptical of top-down governmental intervention, as many of their tyranny-fleeing ancestors had been. Apart from being the home of the "standard American" dialect, the Midlands prove a bellwether for national political attitudes, and the key "swing vote" in every national debate from the abolition of slavery to the 2008 election. It shares the key "border cities" of Chicago (with the Yankees) and St. Louis (with Greater Appalachia). It also has an important extension in southern Ontario where many Midlanders settled after the Revolution. While less cognizant of its national identity, the Midlands nonetheless plays an enormously influential moderating role in continental politics, as it agrees with only parts of its neighbors agendas. Tidewater: The most powerful nation during the Colonial and Early Republican periods, Tidewater has always been a fundamentally conservative nation, with a high value placed on respect for authority and tradition and very little on equality or public participation in politics. This is unsurprising being a nation founded by the younger sons of English gentry who sought to reproduce the semifeudal manorialism of the English countryside, where economic, political, and social affairs were run by the aristocracy. Originally successful, these self-styled "Cavaliers" raised a country gentleman's paradise in the Chesapeake lowlands, with indentured servants, and later slaves taking the part of the peasants. Profoundly influential in the founding of the United States, the Tidewater elites were responsible for many of the aristocratic inflections in the Constitution, including the Electoral College and Senate, both of whose memberships were to be appointed by state legislators, not chosen by the electorate. Cut off from expanding to the west by Greater Appalachia, the Tidewater's power has waned since the 1830s and it has lost ground to both its Midland rivals to the north and its Deep Southern allies in the Atlantic Piedmont. Greater Appalachia: Founded in the early eighteenth century by by wave upon wave of rough, bellicose settlers from the war-ravaged Borderlands of Northern Ireland, northern England, and the Scottish lowlands. Lampooned by popular media as "rednecks," "hillbillies," "crackers," and "white trash," these clannish Scots-Irish, Scots, and north English frontiersmen spread across the highland South and into the North American river valleys, clashing all the way with Indians, Mexicans, and Yankees. Formed in a state of near-constant upheaval in the British Isles, a warrior-ethic was fostered alongside a deep commitment to individual liberty and personal sovereignty. Intensely suspicious of aristocrats and social reformers alike, these American Borderlanders despised Yankee teachers, Tidewater lords, and Deep Southern aristocrats. Despite much of the region fighting for the Union during the civil war, their resistance to the liberation of black slaves during Reconstruction drove Greater Appalachia into its lasting alliance with Tidewater and the Deep South. Greater Appalachia has historically provided a large proportion of the U.S. military, from officers like Andrew Jackson, Davey Crockett, and Douglas MacArthur, to the present soldiers in Afghanistan. They also gave the continent bluegrass and country music, stock car racing, and Evangelical fundamentalism. Greater Appalachia's people have often had a poor awareness of their cultural origins, with many Scots-Irish responding to heritage questions with "American" and even "Native American." The Deep South: Founded by Barbados slave lords as a West Indies-style slave society, for much of American history the Deep South has been the bastion of white supremacy, aristocratic privilege, and a version of classical Republicanism modeled on the slave states of the ancient world, where democracy was a privilege of the few and enslavement the natural lot of the many. It remains the least democratic of the nations, a one-party entity where race remains the primary determinant of one's political affiliations. From its beachhead at Charleston the Deep South expanded through the Southern lowlands before having its territorial ambitions in Latin America halted. In frustration, the Deep South dragged the federation down into a bloody civil war in an effort to carve out its own nation-state alongside its reluctant Tidewater and smattering of Appalachian allies. Successfully resisting the Yankee-led occupation, the Deep South became the center for the state's rights movement, racial segregation, and labor and environmental deregulation. Having forged an uneasy "Dixie" coalition with Tidewater and Greater Appalachia in the 1870s, the Deep South is locked in an epic battle with Yankeedom and its Left Coast and New Netherlands allies for control of the federation. New France: The most overtly nationalistic of the nations, possessing a nation-state-in-waiting in the form of the Province of Quebec. Founded in the early 1600s, New French culture blends the folkways of ancien regime northern French peasantry with the traditions and values of the aboriginal people they encountered in northeastern America. Down-to-earth, egalitarian, and consensus driven, the New French have been recently revealed by pollsters to be (by far) the most liberal nation in North America. Long oppressed by their British overlords, the New French have, since the mid-20th century, imparted many of their attitudes to the Canadian federation, where multiculturalism and negotiated consensus are treasured. They are indirectly responsible for the reemergence of First Nation. El Norte: The oldest of the Euro-American nations, El Norte dates back to the sixteenth-century establishment of the Spanish imperial outposts of Monterrey and Saltillo on the northern fringes of Mexico. This resurgent nation spreads from the US-Mexico border for a hundred miles or more in either direction, where its overwhelmingly Hispanic society has long been a hybrid of Anglo- and Spanish America, with an economy tilted more towards the United States than Mexico City. While Americans see the southwestern borderlands as a place apart, dominated by a culture with an alien language and norms, many Mexicans find their nortenyo kinsmen to be overwhelmingly Americanized. Nortenyos have a well-earned reputation for being more independent, self-sufficient, adaptable, and work-centered than many Mexicans from the more densely populated hierarchical society of of the Mexican core. Long a hotbed of democratic reform and revolutionary fervor, the northern Mexican states have more in common--historically, culturally, economically, gastronomically--with the United States' Hispanic southwestern borderlands than they do with the rest of Mexico, despite being split by an increasingly-militarized border not entirely unlike East and West Germany. The Left Coast: A Chile-shaped nation pinned between the Pacific and the Cascade and Coast mountain ranges, the Left Coast extends in a strip from Monterey, California, to Juneau, Alaska, including four decidedly progressive metropolises: San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, and Vancouver. A wet region of staggering natural beauty, it was originally colonized by two groups: missionaries, merchants and woodsmen from New England (who arrived by sea and controlled the towns) and farmers, prospectors, and fur traders from Greater Appalachia (who arrived by wagon and dominated the countryside). Originally founded to be a "New England on the Pacific," the Left Coast combines the Yankee faith in good government and social reform to a commitment to individual self-exploration and discovery. The Left Coast has been the birthplace of the modern environmental movement and the global information revolution (home to Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Apple, Twitter, and Silicon Valley), and the cofounder (along with New Netherland) of the gay rights movement, the peace movement, and the cultural revolution of the 1960s. The closest ally of Yankeedom, it battles constantly against the libertarian-corporate agenda of its neighbor, the Far West. The Far West: Climate and geography have shaped all of the nations to some extent, but the Far West is the only one where environmental factors truly trumped ethnic ones. High, dry, and remote, the interior west presented conditions so severe that they effectively destroyed those who tried to apply the farming and lifestyle techniques used in Greater Appalachia, the Midlands, or other nations. With minor exceptions this vast region couldn't be effectively colonized without the deployment of vast industrial resources: railroads, heavy mining equipment, ore smelters, dams, and irrigation systems. As a result, the colonization of much of the region was facilitated and directed by large corporations headquartered in distant New York, Boston, Chicago, or San Francisco, or by the federal government itself, which controlled much of the land. Even if they didn't work for the companies, settlers were dependent upon railroads for transportation of goods, people, and products to and from far-off markets and manufacturing centers. Unfortunately for the settlers, the region was treated like an internal colony, exploited and despoiled for the benefit of the seaboard nations. Despite significant industrialization during World War II and the Cold War, the region remains in a state of semi-dependency. Its political class tends to revile the federal government--often aligning it with the Dixie coalition--while demanding it continue to receive federal largesse. It rarely challenges its corporate masters, who maintain a near-Gilded Age levels of influence over Far Western affairs. First Nation: Like the Far West, First Nation encompasses a vast region with a hostile climate: the boreal forests, tundra, and glaciers of the far north. The difference, however, is that its indigenous inhabitants still occupy the area in force--most of them having never given up their land by treaty--and still retain cultural practices and knowledge that allow them to survive in the region on its own terms. Native Americans have recently begun reclaiming their sovereignty and have won both considerable autonomy in Alaska and Nunavut and a self-governing nation-state in Greenland, which stands on the threshold of full independence from Denmark. As inhabitants of a new--and very old--nation, First Nation's people have a chance to put native North America back on the map culturally, politically, and environmentally.
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Post by fschmidt on Sept 16, 2019 14:07:16 GMT
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Post by joustos on Sept 16, 2019 14:20:17 GMT
The American identity is primarily a political identity: An American is definable as a citizen of the United States of America, as a person who has allegiance to the law of the Land (the Constitution). Today's "sanctuary" States are dissident States, which practically secede from the Union and should be treated as such. // The political unification of various nations (peoples) or regions has along history in the world. For example, Italy was unified politically by the Roman emperor Augustus, while various regions had their own language and customs; and again in 1861 out of 7 major regions which were ethnically distinct. (Ethnology and nationality are different things....)
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Oct 13, 2019 3:06:22 GMT
A search for identity is the American identity, hence why we see the "life's a journey", "explore yourself by buying x,y,z", "push the limit", "progress",
The American identity is about perpetually taking identities, taking them apart, and putting them back together...rinse and repeat and call this "meaning".
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2019 9:12:36 GMT
Every year (maybe a day) immigrants from all over the world go to in America. If I am not mistaken, workers from India are constantly traveling to the Silicon Valley.So America is still in the migration system.. All that American identity does is education, food, and some cultural aspects. It is known that even first-generation Americans are adapting to this, even gaining a specific American accent. yes
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2019 9:14:01 GMT
as long as corporates will rule,america will be "NATION OF IMMIGRANTS" and third world CHEAP LABORS WILL be brought
it is few elites, irrespective of their ethnicity who are doing this
When it comes to power, no one cares about RACES
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2019 9:15:00 GMT
A search for identity is the American identity, hence why we see the "life's a journey", "explore yourself by buying x,y,z", "push the limit", "progress", The American identity is about perpetually taking identities, taking them apart, and putting them back together...rinse and repeat and call this "meaning".
this fodder yourself american identity came after second world war.
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