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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Aug 30, 2019 12:51:10 GMT
At a village house I've stuck with a problem. Not a big one, but a bothersome one. Mice.
That little creatures are snooping around there trying to find get some food. They say it can be killed by mousetraps with a cheese. Must say it works well.
Friends said it wasn't moral to kill mice. I think they should live with that grey things for a month before claiming any objections.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Sept 4, 2019 1:37:51 GMT
At a village house I've stuck with a problem. Not a big one, but a bothersome one. Mice. That little creatures are snooping around there trying to find get some food. They say it can be killed by mousetraps with a cheese. Must say it works well. Friends said it wasn't moral to kill mice. I think they should live with that grey things for a month before claiming any objections. It's not very ethical of the mice to spread potentially disease either...they should at least clean up after themselves. It appears like the mice are waging biological war on you eugene. You have every right to defend yourself. Peanut butter works better... |
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Post by Elizabeth on Sept 4, 2019 18:22:00 GMT
We had a cat in Ukraine. If the cat decides to kill the mice it's not your fault and there's nothing wrong with having a cat. Moral problem solved.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Sept 4, 2019 18:49:55 GMT
At a village house I've stuck with a problem. Not a big one, but a bothersome one. Mice. That little creatures are snooping around there trying to find get some food. They say it can be killed by mousetraps with a cheese. Must say it works well. Friends said it wasn't moral to kill mice. I think they should live with that grey things for a month before claiming any objections. It's not very ethical of the mice to spread potentially disease either...they should at least clean up after themselves. It appears like the mice are waging biological war on you eugene. You have every right to defend yourself. Peanut butter works better... Biological. I guess, it is  I'd like to try peanuts, but I have no peanuts, or it should be said it's not easy to find them in groceries or another shops here. Cheese sell well at local stores and there're lots types of this. Besides, how peanuts help me to catch mice? Common mousetraps are prepared for cheese. Baked bread and cheese did the work good. To kill the human smell (a mouse is enough clever to detect it) they recommend a natural oil. With this liquid "the anti-biological weapon" works very well. |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Sept 4, 2019 18:57:03 GMT
We had a cat in Ukraine. If the cat decides to kill the mice it's not your fault and there's nothing wrong with having a cat. Moral problem solved. Agree  The decision does cut up the gordian knot of the dilemma pretty good. The friends gave me this advice. I argued on it - I thought it's just the same as to give a rifle to a chimpanzee. However, cats are those who do this task by its instincts. I wonder do we have any similar ones?.. Anyway, a cat means - to worry about this animal. I don't like any animal care, just the same as the care of people. I've found that I'm a cruel person. |
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Post by Elizabeth on Sept 4, 2019 22:19:02 GMT
We had a cat in Ukraine. If the cat decides to kill the mice it's not your fault and there's nothing wrong with having a cat. Moral problem solved. Agree The decision does cut up the gordian knot of the dilemma pretty good. The friends gave me this advice. I argued on it - I thought it's just the same as to give a rifle to a chimpanzee. However, cats are those who do this task by its instincts. I wonder do we have any similar ones?.. Anyway, a cat means - to worry about this animal. I don't like any animal care, just the same as the care of people. I've found that I'm a cruel person. Well, to a chimpanzee you are giving him a weapon but to a cat you don't give him anything to hurt anyone with. If anything you are being nice and giving a cat a home. What happens with the cat and other animals in the neighborhood is based on them whether they want to coexist or not. I don't like animals either but it's because they almost all scare me if not in a cage. Even cats  . Somehow I managed to like the cat in Ukraine but I think it's because we got it as a baby and it looked helpless and scared so felt right giving it a home and bonding with it to make it feel better. You can always try a baby kitty too and bond with it. Or method 2... If you still don't want to have a cat then ask to borrow a cat from someone you know just for a little bit. But before asking for a cat, sit the mice down and tell them they are evicted from your home and if they don't move out within 24 hours or so you will call the cat police and let the cat police decide what to do. And if they don't leave then borrow a cat from someone for a bit and then return it. Then no animal to take care of and no more mice.  |
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Sept 6, 2019 6:56:46 GMT
Biological. I guess, it is I'd like to try peanuts, but I have no peanuts, or it should be said it's not easy to find them in groceries or another shops here. Cheese sell well at local stores and there're lots types of this. Besides, how peanuts help me to catch mice? Common mousetraps are prepared for cheese. Baked bread and cheese did the work good. To kill the human smell (a mouse is enough clever to detect it) they recommend a natural oil. With this liquid "the anti-biological weapon" works very well. Peanut butter...its peanut creme...it might be an American thing. Try something sweet like a jelly. |
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Sept 6, 2019 6:58:00 GMT
We had a cat in Ukraine. If the cat decides to kill the mice it's not your fault and there's nothing wrong with having a cat. Moral problem solved. Agree The decision does cut up the gordian knot of the dilemma pretty good. The friends gave me this advice. I argued on it - I thought it's just the same as to give a rifle to a chimpanzee. However, cats are those who do this task by its instincts. I wonder do we have any similar ones?.. Anyway, a cat means - to worry about this animal. I don't like any animal care, just the same as the care of people. I've found that I'm a cruel person. Eugene you are not cruel enough, cruelty is a virtue/vice you do not possess. |
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Sept 6, 2019 7:15:09 GMT
Agree The decision does cut up the gordian knot of the dilemma pretty good. The friends gave me this advice. I argued on it - I thought it's just the same as to give a rifle to a chimpanzee. However, cats are those who do this task by its instincts. I wonder do we have any similar ones?.. Anyway, a cat means - to worry about this animal. I don't like any animal care, just the same as the care of people. I've found that I'm a cruel person. Well, to a chimpanzee you are giving him a weapon but to a cat you don't give him anything to hurt anyone with. If anything you are being nice and giving a cat a home. What happens with the cat and other animals in the neighborhood is based on them whether they want to coexist or not. I don't like animals either but it's because they almost all scare me if not in a cage. Even cats . Somehow I managed to like the cat in Ukraine but I think it's because we got it as a baby and it looked helpless and scared so felt right giving it a home and bonding with it to make it feel better. You can always try a baby kitty too and bond with it. Or method 2... If you still don't want to have a cat then ask to borrow a cat from someone you know just for a little bit. But before asking for a cat, sit the mice down and tell them they are evicted from your home and if they don't move out within 24 hours or so you will call the cat police and let the cat police decide what to do. And if they don't leave then borrow a cat from someone for a bit and then return it. Then no animal to take care of and no more mice. Yes warnings are best, probably should get a lawyer to form a waver for the mice first: "Considering changes will be made to the current establishment the mice(s) and/or biological entities (up to and including but not limited to: cockroaches, fleas, termites and various organisms greater than a eukaryote) will be responsible for there own welfare and the owner does nothold responsibility nor influence over potential variations within climate/environment that may or may not occur as a reflection of these changes. These changes are grounded in the pursuit of equality as well as open exchange of lifestyle habits, relative to the introduction of: (cat name), in an effort to obtain and promote a more universal and tolerant atmosphere and encourage diversity upon admittance of (cat name) to this said community (insert village address and number). All in the manner of pursuing equality and the greater good, the owner claims the following rights (sleeping, eating, basic maintainance, miscellaneous changes premised on the owners disposition, etc.) that cannot be infringed upon regardless of the interpretation presented in regards to any perceived actions he may or may not commit. Sign here: (mouse signature). If following legal document is not subject to interpretation on behalf of said parties, relative to a deficiency in English and/or Ukrainian language skills, the following interpretation is legally sufficient: Squeak, squeak, squeak. Squeak, Squeak, sniff, sniff, squeak. Squeak, sniff, squeak, sniff, sniff, sniff. |
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. Somehow I managed to like the cat in Ukraine but I think it's because we got it as a baby and it looked helpless and scared so felt right giving it a home and bonding with it to make it feel better. You can always try a baby kitty too and bond with it. 