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Post by greatestiam on Jul 30, 2019 1:22:25 GMT
Do logic and reason say that God is our servant? biblehub.com/matthew/20-28.htmEven as the Son of man came not to be served, but to serve, At the end of the day, there is no physical or real supernatural God for us to follow. If there were, then logic and reason say that if such a God wanted to be relevant to man, he would show up. All there can be are rules and laws that we think a God would give. Men have written up many such sets of rules while lying about being inspired by God. That is basically the moral of the Moses story with his coming off the mountain, not with a God, but with rules and laws. Man is not slaved to his laws and rules and changes them as better ones are found. We, in effect, are evolving God, defined as rules and laws, and making him better. All people accept this except for those in religions who idol worship the older barbaric Gods, whose laws are inferior to secular law. That would include the Christian and Muslim demiurges. Faith closes the mind. It is pure idol worship. Faith is a way to quit using your, "God given" power of Reason and Logic, and cause the faithful to embrace doctrines that moral people reject. The God of the OT says, “Come now, and let us reason together,” [Isaiah 1:18] How can literalists reason on God when they must ignore reason and logic and discard them when turning into literalist? Those who are literalists can only reply somewhat in the fashion that Martin Luther did. “Faith must trample under foot all reason, sense, and understanding.” “Reason is a whore, the greatest enemy that faith has.” This attitude effectively kills all worthy communication that non-theists can have with theist. Faith closes their mind as it is pure idol worship. Literalism is an evil practice that hides the true messages of myths. We cannot show our faith based friends that they are wrong through their faith colored glasses. Their faith also plugs their ears. Do you serve God and the laws and rules of life, or do you expect the laws, rules of life and God to serve you? Regards DL |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Jul 30, 2019 12:33:02 GMT
So what? Logic of servants and lords are Hegelian way to imagine on what principles the spirit is built.
Calling 'God' a servant, and his Son as a servant for humanity; would be it correct? Just partially. He serves us in good things, but He asks us to do something to achieve something. No pains, no gains.
Actually, there are two contradictions in the presupposition of this question.
1) Why ever to ask something like this if even to know it you must move some muscles?
2) If the Lord serves us in all, we have to be dolls, or soulless mannequins. And if we were our answers would cost nothing.
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Post by Elizabeth on Jul 30, 2019 22:41:52 GMT
Logic and reason says that people are in for it. People of the world already know the world is bad in general and stuff. So what is in for the future? It's simple. Trouble and punishment.
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Post by greatestiam on Aug 11, 2019 20:46:30 GMT
So what? Logic of servants and lords are Hegelian way to imagine on what principles the spirit is built. Calling 'God' a servant, and his Son as a servant for humanity; would be it correct? Just partially. He serves us in good things,He serves us in good things, but He asks us to do something to achieve something. No pains, no gains. Actually, there are two contradictions in the presupposition of this question. 1) Why ever to ask something like this if even to know it you must move some muscles? 2) If the Lord serves us in all, we have to be dolls, or soulless mannequins. And if we were our answers would cost nothing. "He serves us in good things,"
Nice. What service has god given you?
Who serves us in evil things?
Regards DL
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Post by greatestiam on Aug 11, 2019 20:49:58 GMT
Logic and reason says that people are in for it. People of the world already know the world is bad in general and stuff. So what is in for the future? It's simple. Trouble and punishment. Dumb as well as blind.
I have given you the stats that show how well we are doing, yet you do not let things like facts show you how to think.
Oh well. Getting old and senile can't be good when it prevents you from thinking clearly.
Reading myts literally can't help either.
Regards DL
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Post by jonbain on Aug 11, 2019 21:28:15 GMT
Logic and reason says that people are in for it. People of the world already know the world is bad in general and stuff. So what is in for the future? It's simple. Trouble and punishment. Dumb as well as blind.
I have given you the stats that show how well we are doing, yet you do not let things like facts show you how to think.
Oh well. Getting old and senile can't be good when it prevents you from thinking clearly.
Reading myts literally can't help either.
Regards DL
Do you ever succeed in convincing people of anything using insults? |
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Post by Elizabeth on Aug 11, 2019 21:44:54 GMT
Logic and reason says that people are in for it. People of the world already know the world is bad in general and stuff. So what is in for the future? It's simple. Trouble and punishment. Dumb as well as blind.
I have given you the stats that show how well we are doing, yet you do not let things like facts show you how to think.
Oh well. Getting old and senile can't be good when it prevents you from thinking clearly.
Reading myts literally can't help either.
Regards DL
You have given an opinion and 0 stats. Let's stick to facts here not wishful thinking. |
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Post by greatestiam on Aug 12, 2019 12:43:38 GMT
Dumb as well as blind.
I have given you the stats that show how well we are doing, yet you do not let things like facts show you how to think.
Oh well. Getting old and senile can't be good when it prevents you from thinking clearly.
Reading myts literally can't help either.
Regards DL
Do you ever succeed in convincing people of anything using insults? Only when my interlocutor has a useful brain.
That is not usually the case with fundamental literal readers of myths.
They tend to be brain dead as shown but our friend ignoring stats and just mouthing the same garbage.
Regards DL
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Post by greatestiam on Aug 12, 2019 12:46:29 GMT
Dumb as well as blind.
I have given you the stats that show how well we are doing, yet you do not let things like facts show you how to think.
Oh well. Getting old and senile can't be good when it prevents you from thinking clearly.
Reading myts literally can't help either.
Regards DL
You have given an opinion and 0 stats. Let's stick to facts here not wishful thinking. Liars like you make me look good.
I recall giving you this link and indicated that the stats were near the end of this link.
If you missed them, it is on you. Here is that link again.
Regards DL
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Aug 15, 2019 12:27:56 GMT
So what? Logic of servants and lords are Hegelian way to imagine on what principles the spirit is built. Calling 'God' a servant, and his Son as a servant for humanity; would be it correct? Just partially. He serves us in good things,He serves us in good things, but He asks us to do something to achieve something. No pains, no gains. Actually, there are two contradictions in the presupposition of this question. 1) Why ever to ask something like this if even to know it you must move some muscles? 2) If the Lord serves us in all, we have to be dolls, or soulless mannequins. And if we were our answers would cost nothing. "He serves us in good things,"
Nice. What service has god given you?
Who serves us in evil things?
Regards DL
1. God gave me an ability of existence. Without a god there's no existence. No kind of things, and things itself, are beyond God's will. We used to think that "good" is, for example, a blond slime loving girl with 4th boobs, and nice legs; a big house; a perfect job, and a fame... but it is not "good" in the more general sense. It is something that "good" only when we alive. What good in death? Maybe the Buddhism is right, and all that we need to want is nirvana - a total peacefulness. Egyptians thought that we should know secrets of the afterlife, so the most prayers you would learn the well position in the afterlife you would get. 2. "Evil" sometimes is good. I want to become a bit more evil to get rid of my neighbor. If I would more evil, it would give me some extra forces to delete the one. Maybe God won't give me this extra powers, so what should I do? - To depress myself because of this? - No. It wouldn't be the right way. We know that disasters can ruin our plans, but it's just a way it is. Some things are just they are. "Evil" is what God allows for the demons to do. Yes, God allows demons, but He doesn't order them. The demons please God to allow them to do something evil. Remember the text in Job? A dialogue between Satan and God? Here it is: "One day the heavenly beings came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them. The Lord said to Satan, ‘Where have you come from?’ Satan answered the Lord, ‘From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking up and down on it.’ The Lord said to Satan, ‘Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man who fears God and turns away from evil.’ Then Satan answered the Lord, ‘Does Job fear God for nothing? Have you not put a fence around him and his house and all that he has, on every side? You have blessed the work of his hands, and his possessions have increased in the land. But stretch out your hand now, and touch all that he has, and he will curse you to your face.’ The Lord said to Satan, ‘Very well, all that he has is in your power; only do not stretch out your hand against him!’ So Satan went out from the presence of the Lord".
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Post by greatestiam on Aug 28, 2019 21:08:03 GMT
Eugene 2.0
So god is your servant. Good.
Regards
DL
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