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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Jul 11, 2019 21:28:22 GMT
Objectivity is group subjective agreement where inner subjectivity necessitates a state of dynamic tension in perspectives that the individual holds thus necessitating "multiple I's" within the individual allowing for a state of inner objectivity to be observed. This requires a dualism between the conscious and unconscious, in Jungian Terms, or the multiple egos' in Freud's sense.
The multiple subjective states, both as extensions of the "I" can be argued as synonymous to "perspectives" or "means of awareness", effectively set the foundation for objectivity in the respect boundaries are given.
One perspective alone has little "boundary" to it and is irrational by nature considering exists as a continuum.
The multitude of perspectives, in tension with eachother, give definition to eachother by define what each one "is" and "is not" because of there synthetic interplay. For example a single point has no definition on its own terms...it exists as a boundless field.
The same point in contrast to another point gains an "atomic" or localized nature when in contrast to another point. The same applies for awareness.
In simpler terms the only way to be objective internally is to hold multiple perspectives at once.
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Post by jonbain on Jul 13, 2019 18:57:12 GMT
Objectivity is the existence of objects entirely independent of the subjective. The group subjective agreement is just 'group think'.
The group can agree on what it likes, but a great big meteor is gonna flatten them all unless they wake up to that objective reality.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Jul 13, 2019 20:43:07 GMT
Objectivity is the existence of objects entirely independent of the subjective. The group subjective agreement is just 'group think'. The group can agree on what it likes, but a great big meteor is gonna flatten them all unless they wake up to that objective reality. That "objective" reality, is changing there subjective awareness hence is grounded in a lack of independence.
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