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Post by Lone Wanderer on Apr 12, 2019 15:19:01 GMT
Because minds are brains, death should not be scary. If I believed that life survives death, then I would be terrified at the prospect of an eternity of suffering, because I would have no way of knowing which religious beliefs to adopt. In addition to the different main religions such as Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and Judaism, there are many variants, including dozens of different versions of Catholicism, Protestantism, and Islam. Guessing wrong could lead not only to problems in this life, but to eternal punishment. Moreover, it is entirely possible that the “right” religion hasn’t even been invented yet. This variety is one of the flaws in Pascal’s famous wager that it is better to believe in God, because if religion turns out to be true, then you get eternal reward, instead of suffering eternal punishment. This wager assumes that you know what religion to bet on. In contrast, let me offer Thagard’s wager: it is better not to believe in God, because then you don’t have to suffer through a lifetime of worrying about death and the right religion! Happily, this wager fits perfectly with rapidly developing evidence that the mind is just the brain. Hence both inference to the best explanation and inference to the best plan support the conclusion that death should not be feared. Source and full articlewww.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/hot-thought/201206/should-you-fear-death
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Post by Elizabeth on Apr 12, 2019 17:09:28 GMT
You shouldn't fear death unless you're not prepared for what happens next. Pascal seems to teach the concept of "go with the flow" which is a very bad one because if you don't prepare for things in life you can be faced with serious problems and consequences.
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Post by Lone Wanderer on Apr 12, 2019 18:08:37 GMT
You shouldn't fear death unless you're not prepared for what happens next. Pascal seems to teach the concept of "go with the flow" which is a very bad one because if you don't prepare for things in life you can be faced with serious problems and consequences. Well, you have a Christian POV about death. I don't care about death because there is a very little chance that I die at any moment. A car accident, an unexpected incident, natural disasters, or ... could end my life. Why I should care about my death when it could happen at any time/moment?
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Post by bilge on Mar 14, 2020 23:56:11 GMT
Creatures who cannot understand themselves / life as a whole cannot be expected to understand death. The secret of death is hidden in life not in death. Besides, the universe is not like humans; it does not waste anything.
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Post by Elizabeth on Mar 15, 2020 0:26:20 GMT
You shouldn't fear death unless you're not prepared for what happens next. Pascal seems to teach the concept of "go with the flow" which is a very bad one because if you don't prepare for things in life you can be faced with serious problems and consequences. Well, you have a Christian POV about death. I don't care about death because there is a very little chance that I die at any moment. A car accident, an unexpected incident, natural disasters, or ... could end my life. Why I should care about my death when it could happen at any time/moment? Creatures who cannot understand themselves / life as a whole cannot be expected to understand death. The secret of death is hidden in life not in death. Besides, the universe is not like humans; it does not waste anything. That was nicely written. Are you religious by any chance or just think there's a meaning to life that we must discover?
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Post by KGrim on Mar 15, 2020 1:05:58 GMT
Lone WandererThe threat of eternal suffering outweighs the threat of a lifetime spent in worry about death and the right religion. Pascal is right, IMO. Besides, you don't really have to spend a lifetime worrying about the right religion. You just need to be receptive to God which only comes from self-surrender and humility. If you do that then God will show the way. Seek and you will find. I don't believe the mind is the brain. Even when I was a hard determinist that didn't believe in free will I didn't think the mind was the brain. I forget the philisophical term for it. Anyways, I don't buy into the mainstream interpretation of scientific evidence concerning the mind and the brain. Evidence always has to be interpreted and Phd's screw that up sometimes.
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Post by bilge on Mar 15, 2020 2:00:18 GMT
Unfortunately, truth is fragmented into millions of pieces or notions separately absorbed by each religion or philosophy. Every religion has a barrier that they fail to transcend and end up being dogmatic. In an ideal world, philosophy, science and religion are one and the same entity or body of knowledge. It is this path to oneness that human mind struggles to discover.
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