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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Apr 6, 2019 3:18:16 GMT
For those not familiar with my views on homosexuality, I will make them very clear and why I hold them. Homosexuality is an abomination. It is an act that used to be self evidently held to be so disgusting, so distasteful, so perverse that it was considered immoral. Now mainly because many people in Hollywood held this perversion and worked through movies, television, and their influence on liberals to normalize their disgusting behavior it is no longer considered immoral by the sheep that make up American society it must be explained clearly WHY exactly it is immoral so in this thread I intend to do so.
My argument for why homosexuality is immoral rests on the fact that there are things so disgusting, so distasteful, and so perverse that they are immoral though they do not directly and immediately hurt anyone except the people partaking in said thing.
Now many people's moral compass rests on the assumption that "if it's not hurting anybody it's not wrong." Well, those people are hypocrites because I can easily name something right now that hurts nobody but is obviously wrong. That thing is bestiality. Having sex with an animal... say your dog. Now you may object and say, "the dog is getting hurt here!" And to that, I answer, "what if the dog gives consent?" And they obviously do all the time. Anyone who spends time with an unneutered or unspayed dog knows that those animals want to get it on with everyone and everything. They are always trying to hump you and they at that moment are very willing to screw you. Now someone here might say, "a dog is like a child it doesn't have the mental capacity to consent to sex." This argument is nonsense because unless you are insane you believe that dogs absolutely do have the capacity to consent to have sex with each other. If they have the right to consent to have sex with each other and they want to have sex with you a human who are you to say its wrong for the human to give his consent as well and fulfill that lecherous dog's lust?
Let's go a step further. Say a scientist found a way to genetically alter dogs to where they are as smart as human beings. If those dogs, every bit as smart and sentient as human beings say, "I want a human for a lover" and a human consents, unless you are insane I believe fully that you will think that this is wrong. Why would you think these indiscretions in these scenarios are wrong? Because it is so distasteful, so perverse, so wrong, that it is immoral.
There are many deviancies that fit the category of, "well, they aren't hurting anybody." Incest for example. If a man has a vasectomy where he cannot have children and then marries his sister and has sex with her most people would say that's wrong, disgusting, and abominable and treat someone that did this very badly (I don't think they should be treated badly no matter how immoral it is.) Homosexuality used to be one of these things until Hollywood gays got a hold of the left. And if a large number of bestialphils, incest enthusiasts, polygamous people,(and I am even convinced so stupid and easily manipulated is the modern populace) pedophiles were running Hollywood, making movies and TV shows Will and Grace style glorifying it, polluting politics with their dirty money, and molding your imbecilic minds in this fashion you would defend these with as much vigor and indignation as you do homosexuality. Your thoughts are not your own, your culture and its corruption control you.
The proper role of sex is between married males and females of the same species and unrelated; anything other than this is an unnatural abomination.
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Post by anaxagoras on Apr 9, 2019 0:33:45 GMT
Which version of God, King James (the one who is gay and slept with his mother version) or the Hebrew Bible?
But Jesus in the New Testament said "he who is without sin cast the first stone." I see a lot of casting stones here on a person's sexuality and many of you have plenty of skeletons in your closet.. I've seen this before with the "pray the gay away" pastors who come out themselves as gay like the following:
Man who worked as top 'conversion therapist' comes out as gay
"A prominent “conversion therapy” advocate, David Matheson, has come out as gay after spending what he said were decades of his life entrenched in homophobia.
Matheson was a practitioner of the practice also known as “ex-gay therapy” or reparative therapy”, which promotes the false idea that being gay is something that should, and can, be “cured”. These therapies have been denounced by major medical bodies including the American Medical Association, American Psychological Association and the UK’s National Health Service.
Matheson said he knew his work had helped some people, but was certain he had hurt some people too.
“Not that I would excuse myself, but any shortcomings I had as a therapist came from too narrow a view of what ‘emotionally healthy’ can look like.” Matheson said on Facebook. “They came from my own homophobia and narrow-mindedness. I am truly sorry for those flaws and the harm they have surely caused some people. And I’m sorry for the confusion and pain my choice may be causing others.”
Source:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/25/david-matheson-former-gay-conversion-therapy-advocate-comes-out
One thing I noticed about Christian men is many of you are so concerned about another man's genitalia, kind of makes me wonder about your own sexuality myself but hey what do I know i'm a "libtard."
But in my opinion you Christians here in this thread are not examples of what a good human being is, rather you're an example of what a stupid human being is. The Bible can command you how to do back flips it doesn't change the fact that your worldview is not align to what reality is. The reality is, Christians don't love all, I know that is what "white Jesus" told you, but that in reality (meaning, how you act) is a lie.
My mother always said: “You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar." I think a lot of human beings have a lot of issues, but if I think a person's is wrong I'm not going to sit there in judgment on them. If you think being gay is wrong cool. If you want to tell someone gay that them being gay is wrong, cool just don't expect a hospitable response. I say let people be who they are because in reality God is the ultimate judge. If your Bible is right, every single fucking racist in this country will fry and i hope they are at the bottom of the lowest part of hell. But hey, why am I worried about that? I'm too busy worrying about the stress in my own life right now.
No. Because I trust that God, the supreme ruler of this entire universe who is all-aware of what all life forms do will judge accordingly and with impartiality. It is because of that faith that I am confident that all human beings who have lived their life accordingly will get a fair shake whether good, or evil.
So if I'm a Christian pastor that likes to talk about conversion therapy but at night I allow another man penetrate my rectum with an instrument then who am I to talk about abomination? There are more and more undercover gay Christians coming out.
Do you see how this shit sounds? That is like me saying a judge does not hand out a life sentence of their own understanding, but rather based on the state law. Dude, a fucking judge has to understand the law, and the legal parameters as well as a general understanding of jurisprudence to hand out a fair sentence according to the crime. Your average Christian is not walking around as a fucking legal scholar. Anyone jerk off can read a hotel bible and twist that shit according to their understanding, and that is the problem. King Leopold II did this when he sent missionaries into Africa. for some odd reason I thought you were more liberal, but I was mistaken.
Example on what? So far twice you've asked me to spell out simple stuff...
No, she was talking about another "cleansing" meaning right now as of today, even Hilly Billy Bob said (regarding Elizabeth's post):
So either she phrased it poorly, or had another bout of a Freudian Slip.
Meaning you all do not worship the closes thing to what Jesus followed. Considering during his time Jesus was Jewish, and Paul's was an offshoot of Judaism, I think modern Christianity and its interpretations of Christianity as of today is so far removed that you're better off following Paul's version than Jesus because how you all are representing Jesus is an embarrassment.
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Post by anaxagoras on Apr 9, 2019 0:43:30 GMT
Dude did you read YOUR own source? It says:
"This article presents a list of U.S. states sorted by educational attainment for persons 25 years of age and older, based on the responses to the American Community Survey."
It's a survey, and the statistics that are compiled are based on people who participate. Not to mention it's looking at people who are 25 years of age or older.
SMH I told you that the south needs to secede...You don't even read your own material. But yeah California doesn't have the best education system for many reasons, but I know one thing I know I've benefited from education but you apparently haven't.
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Post by Elizabeth on Apr 9, 2019 1:29:25 GMT
What does race have to do with sexuality? This thread is not on race. This thread is on bad actions of people in terms of sexuality. SMH if you cannot understand the significance of my post which is to highlight your innate inclination to be intolerant I don't know what to tell you. Further explaining my situation would only be insulting. To be fair quite obviously I know the thread isn't about race. I was merely saying that coming from someone like you whose homosexual opinion seems to be bigoted, it ought to not surprise me considering that you held a similar position considering that you'd be racist towards someone who made a racist remark towards you (meaning if pejorative remarks towards your ethnic demographic compels you to be racist that means you were already bigoted and racist to begin with). Oh, no, you've missunderstood. The Christian God, my God, doesn't accept homosexuals because He created males and females to reproduce and make families. We care about them and want them to stop or else God will punish them in hell for eternity. This is different from race because all races are accepted to God and He made them because He wants them all. And no I don't care if people are racist to me. I'll just laugh at them because it means nothing. It's like they're laughing at me because I have a red jolly rancher and they have a green one. I'm just like, "What, dude? I have a jolly rancher too. What is so funny exactly?". These people are just closed minded so they actually make me laugh. but yeah homos and race are 2 different things so I can't discuss them together.
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Post by Mortimer on Apr 9, 2019 1:33:12 GMT
Hi. Checking in. Unfortunately I was long not here and I missed you guys. I missed Elizabeth. How is Elizabeth? Homosexuality is a abomination in my opinion. The Bible states it clearly. But I wouldnt harm them I got more tolerant towards homosexuals. But I think a man should be with a woman. I tolerate them though and dont want to harm them.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Apr 9, 2019 3:33:27 GMT
Which version of God, King James (the one who is gay and slept with his mother version) or the Hebrew Bible? But Jesus in the New Testament said "he who is without sin cast the first stone." I see a lot of casting stones here on a person's sexuality and many of you have plenty of skeletons in your closet.. I've seen this before with the "pray the gay away" pastors who come out themselves as gay like the following: Man who worked as top 'conversion therapist' comes out as gay"A prominent “conversion therapy” advocate, David Matheson, has come out as gay after spending what he said were decades of his life entrenched in homophobia. Matheson was a practitioner of the practice also known as “ex-gay therapy” or reparative therapy”, which promotes the false idea that being gay is something that should, and can, be “cured”. These therapies have been denounced by major medical bodies including the American Medical Association, American Psychological Association and the UK’s National Health Service. Matheson said he knew his work had helped some people, but was certain he had hurt some people too. “Not that I would excuse myself, but any shortcomings I had as a therapist came from too narrow a view of what ‘emotionally healthy’ can look like.” Matheson said on Facebook. “They came from my own homophobia and narrow-mindedness. I am truly sorry for those flaws and the harm they have surely caused some people. And I’m sorry for the confusion and pain my choice may be causing others.” Source:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/25/david-matheson-former-gay-conversion-therapy-advocate-comes-out One thing I noticed about Christian men is many of you are so concerned about another man's genitalia, kind of makes me wonder about your own sexuality myself but hey what do I know i'm a "libtard." But in my opinion you Christians here in this thread are not examples of what a good human being is, rather you're an example of what a stupid human being is. The Bible can command you how to do back flips it doesn't change the fact that your worldview is not align to what reality is. The reality is, Christians don't love all, I know that is what "white Jesus" told you, but that in reality (meaning, how you act) is a lie. My mother always said: “You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar." I think a lot of human beings have a lot of issues, but if I think a person's is wrong I'm not going to sit there in judgment on them. If you think being gay is wrong cool. If you want to tell someone gay that them being gay is wrong, cool just don't expect a hospitable response. I say let people be who they are because in reality God is the ultimate judge. If your Bible is right, every single fucking racist in this country will fry and i hope they are at the bottom of the lowest part of hell. But hey, why am I worried about that? I'm too busy worrying about the stress in my own life right now. No. Because I trust that God, the supreme ruler of this entire universe who is all-aware of what all life forms do will judge accordingly and with impartiality. It is because of that faith that I am confident that all human beings who have lived their life accordingly will get a fair shake whether good, or evil. So if I'm a Christian pastor that likes to talk about conversion therapy but at night I allow another man penetrate my rectum with an instrument then who am I to talk about abomination? There are more and more undercover gay Christians coming out. Do you see how this shit sounds? That is like me saying a judge does not hand out a life sentence of their own understanding, but rather based on the state law. Dude, a fucking judge has to understand the law, and the legal parameters as well as a general understanding of jurisprudence to hand out a fair sentence according to the crime. Your average Christian is not walking around as a fucking legal scholar. Anyone jerk off can read a hotel bible and twist that shit according to their understanding, and that is the problem. King Leopold II did this when he sent missionaries into Africa. for some odd reason I thought you were more liberal, but I was mistaken. Example on what? So far twice you've asked me to spell out simple stuff... No, she was talking about another "cleansing" meaning right now as of today, even Hilly Billy Bob said (regarding Elizabeth's post): So either she phrased it poorly, or had another bout of a Freudian Slip. Meaning you all do not worship the closes thing to what Jesus followed. Considering during his time Jesus was Jewish, and Paul's was an offshoot of Judaism, I think modern Christianity and its interpretations of Christianity as of today is so far removed that you're better off following Paul's version than Jesus because how you all are representing Jesus is an embarrassment. Umm, what? King James is not a version of God. King James actually had nothing to do with the translating of the KJV Bible. Those accusations against King James are merely rumors and they were made by someone 15 years after King James died and he was the only person to make that accusation in that time period. And what Hebrew Bible? The OT was originally written in ancient Hebrew, and the NT was originally written in Koine Greek. Yes, Jesus did say that. Everyone is guilty of sin, but there is still a coming judgement and we will all be judged and given according to our works, but those who have put their faith on Christ and His work on the cross will be forgiven their sins. This love, this grace, this mercy given to us by God extends to ALL, but only if we put our faith on Christ and accept that we are indeed sinners in need of a Savior because we cannot save ourselves. The Bible actually says homosexuality is unnatural in Romans 1 and the OT says those who have sex with the same sex are to be put to death, so your claim that Christians are casting stones on people's sexualities is moot because the origin of the belief that homosexuality is unnatural does not originate with Christians, but with the Bible. I'm not going to speak for that pastor or his abominable acts, he doesn't represent Christianity and anyone who reads the Bible with exegetical interpretation knows this. Hm, well, as I explained, the Bible says homosexuality is unnatural, and Christians are to spread the warnings about it as it is outright rebellion against God's natural order. What people do in their private life isn't our business, however, when people make their abominable acts public freedom of speech allows us to let them know they should not being conducting themselves in such fashion for the reasons I stated earlier. We love others and do not what them to go to hell in their ignorance. Okay, so what exactly did any Christians here do that were not examples of a good human being? Ah, well, you have your opinion, that's fine, you can think I'm stupid if you want, it's not anything new or that I'm not used to. Can you explain to me how my worldview does not align with reality? Biblical Christians do love all. Of course, there are people who call themselves Christians who do not love all or project that they do not. You make an unfair blanket statement. "white Jesus"? What is that? Jesus wasn't white, or rather, European. He was middle eastern. How I act? How am I acting? What did I do to you that made you think I am not what I say I am? As I explained, but you seem to have overread or just flat out ignore, that the judgement Biblical Christians are using do not come from their own understanding, it comes from the Bible. Christians do not do any condemning themselves, that is actually impossible, as God is the judge and He has revealed through His word what He will judge as unrighteous and as righteous; Christians are not to use their own understanding, that is, their own judgement, but are to use the righteous judgement that God reveals to us through His word. So, when a Christian says homosexuality is unnatural or abominable or disgusting or whatever negative adjective they choose to describe it, that opinion did not originate with them, but with the Bible. Oh, I know I should expect a hospitable response for projecting my beliefs. The Bible says the world will hate us, but because it hated Christ first, so Christians shouldn't expect to be loved by the world for expounding what the Bible says. Christians do let people be who they want to be, we do not force others to be what they want them to be, and if any Christian does then they are in trouble with God. As I said, yet again, Christians are to expound what the Bible says, and the Bible says homosexuality is abominable and unnatural. So, you need to remember, that the Bible says what Christians are supposed to expound. Yep, God does not favor certain races of people or people who judge based on appearance; He is not a respecter of persons, meaning, He does not favor people based on anything other than their faith or faithlessness. Hmm, well, which god do you put your faith in? Because the God of the Bible, the one true God, commands us to be selfless and to deny ourselves. He judges with impartiality of course, but being selfish, only worrying about yourself and your needs, isn't righteous. As Proverbs 18:1-2 says, 1 Through desire a man, having separated himself, seeketh and intermeddleth with all wisdom. 2 A fool hath no delight in understanding, but that his heart may discover itself. And 2 Timothy 3:2-5, 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. And the Bible says that we cannot be saved by our righteous works, Ephesians 2:8-9 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. So, which god is it that you put your faith in? Quite obviously that pastor was operating under his own understanding. He is a hypocrite and not a Biblical Christian. One cannot be homosexual and Christian simultaneously. Umm, do you see Christians sentencing people to death or life in prison? Christians aren't to put themselves in that position to punish people, Christ told us if people don't want to listen to us that we should move on. Any Christian who does otherwise is not doing what Christ commands. So, I'm not understanding your point at all, you're pretty equating Christians with God, but we aren't God and we don't make the ultimate judgement on a person, I've explained this already; we are to tell others how they are wrong according to the Bible, but we don't dish out punishment like a judge in a court does. "according to their own understanding"... that is problem. The Bible isn't subject to personal interpretation, it says and means one thing. I don't think I made the claim that the average Christian is a the equivalent of a legal scholar, because the average so-called Christian most likely isn't Christian at all. There aren't many, that's what I mean when I say Biblical Christian. You must understand that when I say Christian I am speaking of an actual Christian that follows exactly what the exegetical context of the Bible says. You're making it all seem simple by blanketing everything as either black or white, when there's a lot of grey. Can you give an example of how people in this thread doing God talk are not demonstrating the compassionate teachings of Jesus? You must not have read their further discussion, because they settled what she meant by what she was saying and then agreed with me about what I said about what she said. Regardless, a "cleansing" is going to happen according to the revelation of Jesus Christ in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and the book of Revelation. She is more or less wanting this to happen because she believes the state of the world is worth God returning and casting His judgement on the world. She didn't phrase it too well. It is important to verify with people what they mean so things aren't taken the wrong way; effective communication. She was able to clarify with Clovis and I was even able to clarify and she agreed. Ah, well, "all" is a blanket term. It isn't fair to generalize, it's actually quite lazy. Jesus and Paul's preaching match perfectly, they don't contradict. Paul spoke of a Trinity which is not Judaism, Judaism actually teaches that Jesus is a blasphemous sorcerer who is burning in hell as we speak, they teach that Mary was a whore and that Jesus is the son of a Roman soldier; Paul did not teach such things, so what he taught was very very far from an offshoot of Judaism, Jews today actually hate Paul. Even what the Pharisees and the Jews, the ones that didn't believe on Christ, taught and believed was contrary to many of the ordinances that God laid out for them. The Pharisees were power hungry and self-righteous.
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Clovis Merovingian
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Apr 9, 2019 4:38:21 GMT
Dude did you read YOUR own source? It says: "This article presents a list of U.S. states sorted by educational attainment for persons 25 years of age and older, based on the responses to the American Community Survey." It's a survey, and the statistics that are compiled are based on people who participate. Not to mention it's looking at people who are 25 years of age or older. SMH I told you that the south needs to secede...You don't even read your own material. But yeah California doesn't have the best education system for many reasons, but I know one thing I know I've benefited from education but you apparently haven't. Yes, I did read my source. Its source is the American Community Survey given by the US Census Bureau. It is conducted in the same manner as all census surveys and reaches 3.5 million households. It is not optional www.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/about/top-questions-about-the-survey.html (third question in the link) to answer. The answer to the survey is required by those contacted. The age of 25 and over is the perfect age to test educational attainment when including advanced degrees because a doctors degree usually takes 8 years and the average person graduates high school at 17. I would say that your source is more suspect because it measures educational attainment plus "quality of education" and whether "educational opportunity is equal among the races". Quality of education is actually a subjective thing to quantify and with liberals, it usually means how much money is thrown at public schools which does not necessarily or even commonly measure the quality of the curriculum, the competence of the teachers, or the environment around them (regarding how the behavior of the students affects the ability to learn by the student), or a host of other factors. Regarding equal educational opportunity among the races, one we are measuring who is more educated in these states so it is irrelevant, and two if you really want to increase opportunities for black people in education in the south you would support school choice so blacks in areas stuck in a school run by incompetent nincompoops can choose to send their children elsewhere.
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Post by anaxagoras on Apr 9, 2019 12:47:10 GMT
SMH if you cannot understand the significance of my post which is to highlight your innate inclination to be intolerant I don't know what to tell you. Further explaining my situation would only be insulting. To be fair quite obviously I know the thread isn't about race. I was merely saying that coming from someone like you whose homosexual opinion seems to be bigoted, it ought to not surprise me considering that you held a similar position considering that you'd be racist towards someone who made a racist remark towards you (meaning if pejorative remarks towards your ethnic demographic compels you to be racist that means you were already bigoted and racist to begin with). Oh, no, you've missunderstood. The Christian God, my God, doesn't accept homosexuals because He created males and females to reproduce and make families. We care about them and want them to stop or else God will punish them in hell for eternity. This is different from race because all races are accepted to God and He made them because He wants them all. And no I don't care if people are racist to me. I'll just laugh at them because it means nothing. It's like they're laughing at me because I have a red jolly rancher and they have a green one. I'm just like, "What, dude? I have a jolly rancher too. What is so funny exactly?". These people are just closed minded so they actually make me laugh. but yeah homos and race are 2 different things so I can't discuss them together. So in the following: "The Christian God" now? There is only one in the universe..... God is neither Christian, Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, or whatever.....However that is my belief. But more importantly if God didn't like homosexuals he would have created a biological component where women's bodies would spontaneously abort potentially gay children. Oh wait, you must think being gay is a choice...Nevermind. Well truly, if a deity who is the author of all beautiful things both great and small such as all the galaxies within this universe and here on earth cares about the orientation of a human no greater than a grain of sand, then your god has the tantrum of a little kid. I was being facetious earlier about intelligence and all, but you really didn't get the parallel I highlighted on the remark you made huh? If I were to break it down to you I'd be insulting you. It's not what you said in the other thread. Myself and another poster called you out on it. I'm ashamed of being a part of the same species as you.
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Post by anaxagoras on Apr 9, 2019 12:54:31 GMT
Dude did you read YOUR own source? It says: "This article presents a list of U.S. states sorted by educational attainment for persons 25 years of age and older, based on the responses to the American Community Survey." It's a survey, and the statistics that are compiled are based on people who participate. Not to mention it's looking at people who are 25 years of age or older. SMH I told you that the south needs to secede...You don't even read your own material. But yeah California doesn't have the best education system for many reasons, but I know one thing I know I've benefited from education but you apparently haven't. Yes, I did read my source. Its source is the American Community Survey given by the US Census Bureau. It is conducted in the same manner as all census surveys and reaches 3.5 million households. It is not optional www.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/about/top-questions-about-the-survey.html (third question in the link) to answer. The answer to the survey is required by those contacted. The age of 25 and over is the perfect age to test educational attainment when including advanced degrees because a doctors degree usually takes 8 years and the average person graduates high school at 17. I would say that your source is more suspect because it measures educational attainment plus "quality of education" and whether "educational opportunity is equal among the races". Quality of education is actually a subjective thing to quantify and with liberals, it usually means how much money is thrown at public schools which does not necessarily or even commonly measure the quality of the curriculum, the competence of the teachers, or the environment around them (regarding how the behavior of the students affects the ability to learn by the student), or a host of other factors. Regarding equal educational opportunity among the races, one we are measuring who is more educated in these states so it is irrelevant, and two if you really want to increase opportunities for black people in education in the south you would support school choice so blacks in areas stuck in a school run by incompetent nincompoops can choose to send their children elsewhere. Not once in this entire thread did I mention black people and if I did point it out....I didn't mention white people either. But since you want to go there talking about education and black people let's start with white folks like yourself. How does it feel to know a black man who came from the "hood" has achieved more academically than you? I leave work in another two hours so I'm delighted to kill time talking about this, at my you know six figure job that I'm at. If you must know I'm on my personal laptop and all my charting are done and patients are well cared for but back to you. I'm just curious to know what is in the mind of a white guy like you who hasn't really accomplished anything but finds themselves on an internet forum complaining about the genitalia of people and their mate choice? I mean for a heterosexual man a true heterosexual man I don't think we would be interested in wanting to know why we don't like gay men. I'm more concerned about getting some vagina, but you! oh really concerned about saving that man who likes to penetrate another man's rectum, oh but I'm sure you'll give lesbians a pass cause you know, statistics show you southerners love your porn. As stupid as you think African-Americans are I'm sure in your basement I'm sure you have a collection of BBC videos lying around somewhere.
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Post by anaxagoras on Apr 9, 2019 12:55:36 GMT
Which version of God, King James (the one who is gay and slept with his mother version) or the Hebrew Bible? But Jesus in the New Testament said "he who is without sin cast the first stone." I see a lot of casting stones here on a person's sexuality and many of you have plenty of skeletons in your closet.. I've seen this before with the "pray the gay away" pastors who come out themselves as gay like the following: Man who worked as top 'conversion therapist' comes out as gay"A prominent “conversion therapy” advocate, David Matheson, has come out as gay after spending what he said were decades of his life entrenched in homophobia. Matheson was a practitioner of the practice also known as “ex-gay therapy” or reparative therapy”, which promotes the false idea that being gay is something that should, and can, be “cured”. These therapies have been denounced by major medical bodies including the American Medical Association, American Psychological Association and the UK’s National Health Service. Matheson said he knew his work had helped some people, but was certain he had hurt some people too. “Not that I would excuse myself, but any shortcomings I had as a therapist came from too narrow a view of what ‘emotionally healthy’ can look like.” Matheson said on Facebook. “They came from my own homophobia and narrow-mindedness. I am truly sorry for those flaws and the harm they have surely caused some people. And I’m sorry for the confusion and pain my choice may be causing others.” Source:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/25/david-matheson-former-gay-conversion-therapy-advocate-comes-out One thing I noticed about Christian men is many of you are so concerned about another man's genitalia, kind of makes me wonder about your own sexuality myself but hey what do I know i'm a "libtard." But in my opinion you Christians here in this thread are not examples of what a good human being is, rather you're an example of what a stupid human being is. The Bible can command you how to do back flips it doesn't change the fact that your worldview is not align to what reality is. The reality is, Christians don't love all, I know that is what "white Jesus" told you, but that in reality (meaning, how you act) is a lie. My mother always said: “You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar." I think a lot of human beings have a lot of issues, but if I think a person's is wrong I'm not going to sit there in judgment on them. If you think being gay is wrong cool. If you want to tell someone gay that them being gay is wrong, cool just don't expect a hospitable response. I say let people be who they are because in reality God is the ultimate judge. If your Bible is right, every single fucking racist in this country will fry and i hope they are at the bottom of the lowest part of hell. But hey, why am I worried about that? I'm too busy worrying about the stress in my own life right now. No. Because I trust that God, the supreme ruler of this entire universe who is all-aware of what all life forms do will judge accordingly and with impartiality. It is because of that faith that I am confident that all human beings who have lived their life accordingly will get a fair shake whether good, or evil. So if I'm a Christian pastor that likes to talk about conversion therapy but at night I allow another man penetrate my rectum with an instrument then who am I to talk about abomination? There are more and more undercover gay Christians coming out. Do you see how this shit sounds? That is like me saying a judge does not hand out a life sentence of their own understanding, but rather based on the state law. Dude, a fucking judge has to understand the law, and the legal parameters as well as a general understanding of jurisprudence to hand out a fair sentence according to the crime. Your average Christian is not walking around as a fucking legal scholar. Anyone jerk off can read a hotel bible and twist that shit according to their understanding, and that is the problem. King Leopold II did this when he sent missionaries into Africa. for some odd reason I thought you were more liberal, but I was mistaken. Example on what? So far twice you've asked me to spell out simple stuff... No, she was talking about another "cleansing" meaning right now as of today, even Hilly Billy Bob said (regarding Elizabeth's post): So either she phrased it poorly, or had another bout of a Freudian Slip. Meaning you all do not worship the closes thing to what Jesus followed. Considering during his time Jesus was Jewish, and Paul's was an offshoot of Judaism, I think modern Christianity and its interpretations of Christianity as of today is so far removed that you're better off following Paul's version than Jesus because how you all are representing Jesus is an embarrassment. Umm, what? King James is not a version of God. King James actually had nothing to do with the translating of the KJV Bible. Those accusations against King James are merely rumors and they were made by someone 15 years after King James died and he was the only person to make that accusation in that time period. And what Hebrew Bible? The OT was originally written in ancient Hebrew, and the NT was originally written in Koine Greek. Yes, Jesus did say that. Everyone is guilty of sin, but there is still a coming judgement and we will all be judged and given according to our works, but those who have put their faith on Christ and His work on the cross will be forgiven their sins. This love, this grace, this mercy given to us by God extends to ALL, but only if we put our faith on Christ and accept that we are indeed sinners in need of a Savior because we cannot save ourselves. The Bible actually says homosexuality is unnatural in Romans 1 and the OT says those who have sex with the same sex are to be put to death, so your claim that Christians are casting stones on people's sexualities is moot because the origin of the belief that homosexuality is unnatural does not originate with Christians, but with the Bible. I'm not going to speak for that pastor or his abominable acts, he doesn't represent Christianity and anyone who reads the Bible with exegetical interpretation knows this. Hm, well, as I explained, the Bible says homosexuality is unnatural, and Christians are to spread the warnings about it as it is outright rebellion against God's natural order. What people do in their private life isn't our business, however, when people make their abominable acts public freedom of speech allows us to let them know they should not being conducting themselves in such fashion for the reasons I stated earlier. We love others and do not what them to go to hell in their ignorance. Okay, so what exactly did any Christians here do that were not examples of a good human being? Ah, well, you have your opinion, that's fine, you can think I'm stupid if you want, it's not anything new or that I'm not used to. Can you explain to me how my worldview does not align with reality? Biblical Christians do love all. Of course, there are people who call themselves Christians who do not love all or project that they do not. You make an unfair blanket statement. "white Jesus"? What is that? Jesus wasn't white, or rather, European. He was middle eastern. How I act? How am I acting? What did I do to you that made you think I am not what I say I am? As I explained, but you seem to have overread or just flat out ignore, that the judgement Biblical Christians are using do not come from their own understanding, it comes from the Bible. Christians do not do any condemning themselves, that is actually impossible, as God is the judge and He has revealed through His word what He will judge as unrighteous and as righteous; Christians are not to use their own understanding, that is, their own judgement, but are to use the righteous judgement that God reveals to us through His word. So, when a Christian says homosexuality is unnatural or abominable or disgusting or whatever negative adjective they choose to describe it, that opinion did not originate with them, but with the Bible. Oh, I know I should expect a hospitable response for projecting my beliefs. The Bible says the world will hate us, but because it hated Christ first, so Christians shouldn't expect to be loved by the world for expounding what the Bible says. Christians do let people be who they want to be, we do not force others to be what they want them to be, and if any Christian does then they are in trouble with God. As I said, yet again, Christians are to expound what the Bible says, and the Bible says homosexuality is abominable and unnatural. So, you need to remember, that the Bible says what Christians are supposed to expound. Yep, God does not favor certain races of people or people who judge based on appearance; He is not a respecter of persons, meaning, He does not favor people based on anything other than their faith or faithlessness. Hmm, well, which god do you put your faith in? Because the God of the Bible, the one true God, commands us to be selfless and to deny ourselves. He judges with impartiality of course, but being selfish, only worrying about yourself and your needs, isn't righteous. As Proverbs 18:1-2 says, 1 Through desire a man, having separated himself, seeketh and intermeddleth with all wisdom. 2 A fool hath no delight in understanding, but that his heart may discover itself. And 2 Timothy 3:2-5, 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. And the Bible says that we cannot be saved by our righteous works, Ephesians 2:8-9 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. So, which god is it that you put your faith in? Quite obviously that pastor was operating under his own understanding. He is a hypocrite and not a Biblical Christian. One cannot be homosexual and Christian simultaneously. Umm, do you see Christians sentencing people to death or life in prison? Christians aren't to put themselves in that position to punish people, Christ told us if people don't want to listen to us that we should move on. Any Christian who does otherwise is not doing what Christ commands. So, I'm not understanding your point at all, you're pretty equating Christians with God, but we aren't God and we don't make the ultimate judgement on a person, I've explained this already; we are to tell others how they are wrong according to the Bible, but we don't dish out punishment like a judge in a court does. "according to their own understanding"... that is problem. The Bible isn't subject to personal interpretation, it says and means one thing. I don't think I made the claim that the average Christian is a the equivalent of a legal scholar, because the average so-called Christian most likely isn't Christian at all. There aren't many, that's what I mean when I say Biblical Christian. You must understand that when I say Christian I am speaking of an actual Christian that follows exactly what the exegetical context of the Bible says. You're making it all seem simple by blanketing everything as either black or white, when there's a lot of grey. Can you give an example of how people in this thread doing God talk are not demonstrating the compassionate teachings of Jesus? You must not have read their further discussion, because they settled what she meant by what she was saying and then agreed with me about what I said about what she said. Regardless, a "cleansing" is going to happen according to the revelation of Jesus Christ in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and the book of Revelation. She is more or less wanting this to happen because she believes the state of the world is worth God returning and casting His judgement on the world. She didn't phrase it too well. It is important to verify with people what they mean so things aren't taken the wrong way; effective communication. She was able to clarify with Clovis and I was even able to clarify and she agreed. Ah, well, "all" is a blanket term. It isn't fair to generalize, it's actually quite lazy. Jesus and Paul's preaching match perfectly, they don't contradict. Paul spoke of a Trinity which is not Judaism, Judaism actually teaches that Jesus is a blasphemous sorcerer who is burning in hell as we speak, they teach that Mary was a whore and that Jesus is the son of a Roman soldier; Paul did not teach such things, so what he taught was very very far from an offshoot of Judaism, Jews today actually hate Paul. Even what the Pharisees and the Jews, the ones that didn't believe on Christ, taught and believed was contrary to many of the ordinances that God laid out for them. The Pharisees were power hungry and self-righteous. This bullshit is not even worth the effort....
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Post by Elizabeth on Apr 9, 2019 13:57:01 GMT
Oh, no, you've missunderstood. The Christian God, my God, doesn't accept homosexuals because He created males and females to reproduce and make families. We care about them and want them to stop or else God will punish them in hell for eternity. This is different from race because all races are accepted to God and He made them because He wants them all. And no I don't care if people are racist to me. I'll just laugh at them because it means nothing. It's like they're laughing at me because I have a red jolly rancher and they have a green one. I'm just like, "What, dude? I have a jolly rancher too. What is so funny exactly?". These people are just closed minded so they actually make me laugh. but yeah homos and race are 2 different things so I can't discuss them together. So in the following: "The Christian God" now? There is only one in the universe..... God is neither Christian, Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, or whatever.....However that is my belief. But more importantly if God didn't like homosexuals he would have created a biological component where women's bodies would spontaneously abort potentially gay children. Oh wait, you must think being gay is a choice...Nevermind. Well truly, if a deity who is the author of all beautiful things both great and small such as all the galaxies within this universe and here on earth cares about the orientation of a human no greater than a grain of sand, then your god has the tantrum of a little kid. I was being facetious earlier about intelligence and all, but you really didn't get the parallel I highlighted on the remark you made huh? If I were to break it down to you I'd be insulting you. It's not what you said in the other thread. Myself and another poster called you out on it. I'm ashamed of being a part of the same species as you. Of course there's only one God. By saying Chrsitian I was saying he's found in the bible because bible uses the word Christian for His followers. So, that's how we get the words "Christian God". And abortion is murder in the bible and murderers also go to hell if they don't stop which is the same as homosexuals. Because both are choices. I can go kill someone today if I want but I wont. I can go kiss or marry a female today but I wont. Why? Because God doesn't allow these evil actions. So I won't do it. Simple. But yes. In general everyone must follow the golden rule of doing unto others what you want done unto you. Nothing to be called out on. This existed before I was even born and God even said it in the bible. But there are those people who don't care for God and break His commands and will go to hell so yeah best to ignore them if they don't want to be helped. Not the species I'd want to be apart of either and God warns not to partake with them in their evil ways too.
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Post by jonbain on Apr 9, 2019 21:25:37 GMT
Most here have the correct instinct, but lack the analytical nous to really understand the issue and its causes, as well as consequences. The reason we find it distasteful is primarily in the male variety. Careful reading of the Bible on this issue shows that it is only ever referred to as sinful in the male context. But let us look at it logically. If people were promoting the right to teach that 1+1=1, we may laugh at first. But then as accounting became a disaster, and your salary floated around, and hyper inflation took over, it would start to get un-funny and revolting. So if some person did a silly thing and then regretted it, they have nothing to worry about so long as they learn from it. Now consider it from the point of psychology. We do not consider a neurotic person who has a fear of heights as being reprehensible. But if such a person decided they had the right to be an air-line pilot, and disasters occurred, then it would not be neuroses, but instead it would be outright pathology. So when the said community started demanding the right to adopt, it became clear to me that this was not always a neuroses, but instead it has now become a pathology. It would be just as intensely problematic if the community of those that teach 1+1=1 insisted on being math teachers. As for the causes. We have to appreciate that any psychological mindset can occur for numerous reasons, so do not make the error of putting them all in one boat. Unless its a holy boat! But what can be done about it? That is a far more serious issue and few even scratch the surface of this. Because the causes cannot be eradicated by violence, because they would long since have died out of this were true. The condition is not genetic for the same clear reason. It has zero survival value. But the way gender is constructed is vastly different for men and women, that is why the Bible ignores the female variety. Clovis MerovingiananaxagorasElizabethSonny
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Post by DKTrav88 on Apr 10, 2019 0:25:25 GMT
Umm, what? King James is not a version of God. King James actually had nothing to do with the translating of the KJV Bible. Those accusations against King James are merely rumors and they were made by someone 15 years after King James died and he was the only person to make that accusation in that time period. And what Hebrew Bible? The OT was originally written in ancient Hebrew, and the NT was originally written in Koine Greek. Yes, Jesus did say that. Everyone is guilty of sin, but there is still a coming judgement and we will all be judged and given according to our works, but those who have put their faith on Christ and His work on the cross will be forgiven their sins. This love, this grace, this mercy given to us by God extends to ALL, but only if we put our faith on Christ and accept that we are indeed sinners in need of a Savior because we cannot save ourselves. The Bible actually says homosexuality is unnatural in Romans 1 and the OT says those who have sex with the same sex are to be put to death, so your claim that Christians are casting stones on people's sexualities is moot because the origin of the belief that homosexuality is unnatural does not originate with Christians, but with the Bible. I'm not going to speak for that pastor or his abominable acts, he doesn't represent Christianity and anyone who reads the Bible with exegetical interpretation knows this. Hm, well, as I explained, the Bible says homosexuality is unnatural, and Christians are to spread the warnings about it as it is outright rebellion against God's natural order. What people do in their private life isn't our business, however, when people make their abominable acts public freedom of speech allows us to let them know they should not being conducting themselves in such fashion for the reasons I stated earlier. We love others and do not what them to go to hell in their ignorance. Okay, so what exactly did any Christians here do that were not examples of a good human being? Ah, well, you have your opinion, that's fine, you can think I'm stupid if you want, it's not anything new or that I'm not used to. Can you explain to me how my worldview does not align with reality? Biblical Christians do love all. Of course, there are people who call themselves Christians who do not love all or project that they do not. You make an unfair blanket statement. "white Jesus"? What is that? Jesus wasn't white, or rather, European. He was middle eastern. How I act? How am I acting? What did I do to you that made you think I am not what I say I am? As I explained, but you seem to have overread or just flat out ignore, that the judgement Biblical Christians are using do not come from their own understanding, it comes from the Bible. Christians do not do any condemning themselves, that is actually impossible, as God is the judge and He has revealed through His word what He will judge as unrighteous and as righteous; Christians are not to use their own understanding, that is, their own judgement, but are to use the righteous judgement that God reveals to us through His word. So, when a Christian says homosexuality is unnatural or abominable or disgusting or whatever negative adjective they choose to describe it, that opinion did not originate with them, but with the Bible. Oh, I know I should expect a hospitable response for projecting my beliefs. The Bible says the world will hate us, but because it hated Christ first, so Christians shouldn't expect to be loved by the world for expounding what the Bible says. Christians do let people be who they want to be, we do not force others to be what they want them to be, and if any Christian does then they are in trouble with God. As I said, yet again, Christians are to expound what the Bible says, and the Bible says homosexuality is abominable and unnatural. So, you need to remember, that the Bible says what Christians are supposed to expound. Yep, God does not favor certain races of people or people who judge based on appearance; He is not a respecter of persons, meaning, He does not favor people based on anything other than their faith or faithlessness. Hmm, well, which god do you put your faith in? Because the God of the Bible, the one true God, commands us to be selfless and to deny ourselves. He judges with impartiality of course, but being selfish, only worrying about yourself and your needs, isn't righteous. As Proverbs 18:1-2 says, 1 Through desire a man, having separated himself, seeketh and intermeddleth with all wisdom. 2 A fool hath no delight in understanding, but that his heart may discover itself. And 2 Timothy 3:2-5, 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. And the Bible says that we cannot be saved by our righteous works, Ephesians 2:8-9 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. So, which god is it that you put your faith in? Quite obviously that pastor was operating under his own understanding. He is a hypocrite and not a Biblical Christian. One cannot be homosexual and Christian simultaneously. Umm, do you see Christians sentencing people to death or life in prison? Christians aren't to put themselves in that position to punish people, Christ told us if people don't want to listen to us that we should move on. Any Christian who does otherwise is not doing what Christ commands. So, I'm not understanding your point at all, you're pretty equating Christians with God, but we aren't God and we don't make the ultimate judgement on a person, I've explained this already; we are to tell others how they are wrong according to the Bible, but we don't dish out punishment like a judge in a court does. "according to their own understanding"... that is problem. The Bible isn't subject to personal interpretation, it says and means one thing. I don't think I made the claim that the average Christian is a the equivalent of a legal scholar, because the average so-called Christian most likely isn't Christian at all. There aren't many, that's what I mean when I say Biblical Christian. You must understand that when I say Christian I am speaking of an actual Christian that follows exactly what the exegetical context of the Bible says. You're making it all seem simple by blanketing everything as either black or white, when there's a lot of grey. Can you give an example of how people in this thread doing God talk are not demonstrating the compassionate teachings of Jesus? You must not have read their further discussion, because they settled what she meant by what she was saying and then agreed with me about what I said about what she said. Regardless, a "cleansing" is going to happen according to the revelation of Jesus Christ in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and the book of Revelation. She is more or less wanting this to happen because she believes the state of the world is worth God returning and casting His judgement on the world. She didn't phrase it too well. It is important to verify with people what they mean so things aren't taken the wrong way; effective communication. She was able to clarify with Clovis and I was even able to clarify and she agreed. Ah, well, "all" is a blanket term. It isn't fair to generalize, it's actually quite lazy. Jesus and Paul's preaching match perfectly, they don't contradict. Paul spoke of a Trinity which is not Judaism, Judaism actually teaches that Jesus is a blasphemous sorcerer who is burning in hell as we speak, they teach that Mary was a whore and that Jesus is the son of a Roman soldier; Paul did not teach such things, so what he taught was very very far from an offshoot of Judaism, Jews today actually hate Paul. Even what the Pharisees and the Jews, the ones that didn't believe on Christ, taught and believed was contrary to many of the ordinances that God laid out for them. The Pharisees were power hungry and self-righteous. This bullshit is not even worth the effort.... I could have said the same about all the junk you post on this forum, but hey, I'd rather have constructive dialog trying understand others instead of accusing others of being something they aren't while talking to them with condescension and using superficial agenda-filled points with a biased and poor reflection of history to support those points. The very first thing you did when you commented on this thread is literally call the OP stupid, unfairly used generalizations against him and his religion in the form of statistics, called his position illogical even though the Bible literally says what he said that being 'homosexuality is an abomination', and accused him of worshipping "a Caucasian's bastardize version of Christianity" which, one, doesn't make any sense, and two, is a completely baseless accusation. If that is all you're interested in doing, you'd be no better than a crazy drugged up homeless person yelling at nothing on a downtown street corner. Address the topic, or be seen as logically fallacious(ad hominem) and a rabble-rouser.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Apr 10, 2019 2:09:51 GMT
Yes, I did read my source. Its source is the American Community Survey given by the US Census Bureau. It is conducted in the same manner as all census surveys and reaches 3.5 million households. It is not optional www.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/about/top-questions-about-the-survey.html (third question in the link) to answer. The answer to the survey is required by those contacted. The age of 25 and over is the perfect age to test educational attainment when including advanced degrees because a doctors degree usually takes 8 years and the average person graduates high school at 17. I would say that your source is more suspect because it measures educational attainment plus "quality of education" and whether "educational opportunity is equal among the races". Quality of education is actually a subjective thing to quantify and with liberals, it usually means how much money is thrown at public schools which does not necessarily or even commonly measure the quality of the curriculum, the competence of the teachers, or the environment around them (regarding how the behavior of the students affects the ability to learn by the student), or a host of other factors. Regarding equal educational opportunity among the races, one we are measuring who is more educated in these states so it is irrelevant, and two if you really want to increase opportunities for black people in education in the south you would support school choice so blacks in areas stuck in a school run by incompetent nincompoops can choose to send their children elsewhere. Not once in this entire thread did I mention black people and if I did point it out....I didn't mention white people either. But since you want to go there talking about education and black people let's start with white folks like yourself. How does it feel to know a black man who came from the "hood" has achieved more academically than you? I leave work in another two hours so I'm delighted to kill time talking about this, at my you know six figure job that I'm at. If you must know I'm on my personal laptop and all my charting are done and patients are well cared for but back to you. I'm just curious to know what is in the mind of a white guy like you who hasn't really accomplished anything but finds themselves on an internet forum complaining about the genitalia of people and their mate choice? I mean for a heterosexual man a true heterosexual man I don't think we would be interested in wanting to know why we don't like gay men. I'm more concerned about getting some vagina, but you! oh really concerned about saving that man who likes to penetrate another man's rectum, oh but I'm sure you'll give lesbians a pass cause you know, statistics show you southerners love your porn. As stupid as you think African-Americans are I'm sure in your basement I'm sure you have a collection of BBC videos lying around somewhere. Your source CNBC factored in inequality of the races in terms of educational opportunity regarding how it factored ranking states based on education. The South is a biracial region, white and black thus it is this relation in which the article is referring to. That is why I mentioned blacks in regards to my point. I do not think that black people are ignorant or stupid, but I do think that many of the people in their leadership positions are very corrupt just as for example I don't think that the Nicaraguan people are stupid, but that Daniel Ortega and the Sandinista government that runs Nicaragua is corrupt (I have first-hand experience with Nicaragua as I've been there just as I have first-hand experience with African American culture as well living in a half black county in my state), its unfortunate, a counterproductive part of the culture in which it is framed in. You have brought up race many times in this thread calling Christianity as practiced by us "Caucasian Christianity" and mentioned "white Jesus" terms that are preposterous to anyone but a race-obsessed weirdo like you. There is a word for someone who thinks about race every waking hour of the day... RACIST. I know you love throwing that term at people who disagree with you on basically anything but you are projecting upon others what perfectly describes yourself. Criticizing aspects of African American culture is not racist (just like criticizing the hypocrisy of porn indulging while being religious in southern culture for example), but you know what is racist? Calling a whole ethnocultural group "the south" by which you mean white southerners an "abomination." If I replaced "the south" in your sentence with "black people" or "black America" and called black America an abomination you would have a seizure fit and rightfully so. The fact is you wish to dish out insults and racism to others but you are too weak to actually take it when they fight back and you call arktos forums a racist forum because no one indulges you in your bullshite. Crying racist here will not get those who disagree with you to back down, shrink away, or cease from their honesty and the moderators will not take action against someone because you cry racist as one cries wolf. You may be used to authority figures in your little academic PC cum doormat world indulging your race baiting horseshite but this is a free speech forum (which is why you haven't been banned yet despite your continuous insulting of many members you disagree with.)
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Clovis Merovingian
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Apr 10, 2019 2:23:31 GMT
Most here have the correct instinct, but lack the analytical nous to really understand the issue and its causes, as well as consequences. The reason we find it distasteful is primarily in the male variety. Careful reading of the Bible on this issue shows that it is only ever referred to as sinful in the male context. But let us look at it logically. If people were promoting the right to teach that 1+1=1, we may laugh at first. But then as accounting became a disaster, and your salary floated around, and hyper inflation took over, it would start to get un-funny and revolting. So if some person did a silly thing and then regretted it, they have nothing to worry about so long as they learn from it. Now consider it from the point of psychology. We do not consider a neurotic person who has a fear of heights as being reprehensible. But if such a person decided they had the right to be an air-line pilot, and disasters occurred, then it would not be neuroses, but instead it would be outright pathology. So when the said community started demanding the right to adopt, it became clear to me that this was not always a neuroses, but instead it has now become a pathology. It would be just as intensely problematic if the community of those that teach 1+1=1 insisted on being math teachers. As for the causes. We have to appreciate that any psychological mindset can occur for numerous reasons, so do not make the error of putting them all in one boat. Unless its a holy boat! But what can be done about it? That is a far more serious issue and few even scratch the surface of this. Because the causes cannot be eradicated by violence, because they would long since have died out of this were true. The condition is not genetic for the same clear reason. It has zero survival value. But the way gender is constructed is vastly different for men and women, that is why the Bible ignores the female variety. Clovis Merovingian anaxagoras Elizabeth Sonny www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+1%3A18-32&version=KJV Read Romans 1:26 and 1:27.
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FireFoxAssassin
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Post by FireFoxAssassin on Apr 11, 2019 16:33:20 GMT
Doesn't it say in the Bible somewhere that you'd get stoned for being gay or something.
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