Giving up on Christians

Immoral persons can't find something good. To look for moral one needs to be moral. It seems you're not the one.

So, I warn you, your post is fulfilled with evil. So, if you don't erase those degenerated blaming, I'll be ask for deleting it.

Why do you think any Christian would form an alliance with a Muslim, or vice versa? Islam is an anti-christ religion, and from what I've read in the Quran they are commanded to kill infidels. Many of them paint Christians to be infidels because they don't believe in or understand the Trinity and consider it pagan... If I remember right, Muhammad's entire crusade was against pagans, he had them killed unless they submitted. Not only this, but I've even seen you say some sects of Islam aren't true Islam... so, are you going to generalize Christianity, but not Islam? Seems like a double standard.

Islam and Christianity are both destructive to world and destructive to themselves(take advantage of others to earn money and power). Hinduism, whatever destruction lies therein, stays therein, but peaceful to the world at large so much so that many Indians are leaving their culture behind and adopting Western views which is quite unfortunate. But everything happens for a reason. Islam and Christianity both try to own God. They both think their way is the only way to God. This view gives many corrupted a chance to take advantage others and use them for their own gain. Jesus and Allah both journeyed to India to acquire wisdom which is why their teachings couldn't've been any different from that of Santana Dharma. But today Sanatana Dharma has become corrupted by most gurus today. Even at the time of Jesus they were verily corrupt. Anyway. Christianity has become so corrupt today that they think they aren't capable of being as perfect as Jesus. They think they're separate from God.  This is nonsense and most certainly due to mistranslation or tampering of the words within the scrolls to satisfy/maintain power and greed. It is taught, since time immemorial and to this day, that it's our purpose to aim to the heights of God to acquire Liberation/merge in Him. People talk of Christ's sacrifice as evidenced by his crucifixion. But, he was surrounded and bound, and crowned by the crowd who captured him with the crown of thorns, and later, nailed to the cross by his captors. A person bound and beaten by the police cannot say that he has sacrificed everything, for he is not a free man. Let us pay attention to the sacrifice that Jesus made while free, out of his own volition. He sacrificed his happiness, prosperity, comfort, safety and position. He braved the enmity of the powerful. He refused to yield or compromise. He renounced the ego, which is the toughest thing to get rid of. Honour Him for these. He willingly sacrificed the desires with which the body torments man. This sacrifice is greater than the sacrifice of the body under duress. The celebration of His birthday has to be marked by sacrificing your at least one desire or two, and conquering at least the more disastrous urges of ego.



I have no doubt that Jesus lived a completely different life from what the Bible insinuates and that His teachings were congruent to the Eternal Law of Sanatana Dharma. All sages and saints, all incarnations of god, since time immemorial held up a code for world peace. This code is to help one control his senses and destroy the ego. Such sacrifice is greater than the body under duress. It is to help you see the oneness in everything. True religion does not preach difference. Never did, never will. Yes, the world is a lot older than 2000 years. It is pure ignorance to dismiss years of evidence proving such. Sanatana Dharma is the mother of all religions, it is the source, it is the Eternal Law written by God to help humanity live in peace together. Jesus was an enlightened being. However he isn't the only enlightened being to have existed. There were thousands that came before him and they all acquired knowledge from the Vedas. Which is why their teachings couldn't've been any different. It through the passage of time men with no spiritual foundation/knowledge whatsoever took it upon themselves to decipher the teachings within the scrolls. Then they did the most ignorant thing possible. They took these words literally. Can't blame them seeing as how they lacked a spiritual foundation to begin with. Then other men came, in their ignorance added their own meaning and wrote their own versions of what they thought the words meant. Jesus, Allah, Buddha and many other God-men journeyed to India in search of wisdom of God seeing as how it is and will always be the spiritual centre of the Earth. This is why at the basis of every religion there is the common teaching of Sanatana Dharma. All religions teach one basic discipline - the removal of the blemish of egoism from the mind, and of running after trivial joys. Every religion teaches man to fill his being with the Glory of God, and evict the pettiness of conceit. It trains him in methods of detachment and discrimination, so that he may aim high and attain liberation. Believe that all hearts are motivated by the one God; that all faiths glorify Him alone; that all names in all languages and all forms man can conceive denote the one Supreme Being; His adoration is best done by means of love.



Cultivate that Eka-bhava (attitude of Oneness), between men of all creeds, all countries and all continents. That is the message of love, He brings. That is the message He wishes you to take to heart.”



There is only one religion; the religion of Love

There is only one language; the language of the Heart

There is only caste; the caste of Humanity

There is only one God, He is Omnipresent.



This is the Unity, Truth and Love when you strip away all the labels of religion. This is the essence of the teachings of great men such as Buddha, Jesus and Allah. It is the essence of all religions, before man came in with their limited minds and disturbed it with their limited understanding of these Eternal sayings. Religion today no longer exists to uplift man but to satisfy his most basic desires. It is verily a well payed business now.



The only way to truly understand the words of Jesus is to use the Wisdom within Sanatana Dharma as touchstones. And the only way to truly understand the words within the Vedas is to look at the teachings Sathya Sai Baba. It is difficult to find a genuine guru in the age of falsehood so why not look to God Himself to be your guru.

If you disagree with me then you are just wrong, not evil. If you support censorship then you are evil. If you organize a meetup and fail to show up then you are evil.

My experience with Islam is much better than my experience with non-Anabaptist Christianity. And Muslims would be willing to ally with Christians against evil.

Many Muslims that I have spoken to will make the claim that Christians are pagan because of their belief in the Holy Trinity. I know this is my subjective experience, but I see it time and time again in religious discussions between Muslims and Christians; Muslims will always bring up the Trinity and say, since they do not understand it, that Christians are worshipping three Gods.

What I meant by "anti-christ" was not necessarily anti-Christian, even though I do believe many Muslims are anti-Christian, but what I meant was what the Bible defines an anti-christ as, which is someone who denies that Jesus is the Son of God. I understand that Muslims believe Jesus was a prophet, but to Christians He was more than just a prophet; He is Messiah, He is God.

As far as fschmidt's experiences in catholic and orthodox churches, I would say that even protestant churches are guilty of what he is saying the churches he attended did. But, what he is doing that is wrong is making a faulty generalization of Christianity. I'm sure he knows there are Muslims, or people who call themselves Muslims, that he would say are evil just as he does with Christians, but in the same breath he talks about Islam as if evil people don't exist within it AND he says Anabaptists aren't evil(and they're Christian). He should realize then that not all Christians are evil and not all Muslims are good.

Yes. Now I agree with you in all your thesis. I just bring it in a little rough (my speech wasn't clear).

I think that the main evil in fschmidt's comment is that he rages Christians and the other religions. I don't like those "fireburning". All what I try to do is to light down the fire between many Churches, especially Christian ones. As Paul said about not being Peter's, Appollo's and the other, but being together, so I think the same is important now. 

I don't think that modern Christians are so stupid to not come up together to one and right decision about many questions. I'd say that there are almost all the time some quarrel-initiators appear, and that's why we see no healthy conclusions here. All what we need to do is just walk calmly and peacefully, not being involved in that damn quarrels. 

That's why fschmidt's speech didn't cost a think, even being 100% truly. There's the only one truth - to not listen to one's "truly speakers", but hold to what Christ said. So, I think you were right speaking that people were liars. Yeah, they are. Christ is our only one purpose.