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Post by greatestiam on Feb 16, 2019 16:49:07 GMT
What is more important; Gods or the laws you think they promote?
I think the Moses myth tells us the answer but am curious as to what you think.
A number of constitutions and religious thinking systems put laws above Gods and their laws. We have all heard the phrase; We are a Nation of laws, not of men or Gods.
Laws can be followed while supernatural Gods, imaginary to me but perhaps real to you, even though they are all absentee Gods, cannot be physically followed. Only their laws can be.
One of the archetypal Jesus’ said he would know his people by their works and deeds, which to me means following his laws, and that is partly why I put the best rules and laws I can find above all the Gods.
Knowing that secular governments have rejected the laws of the Gods, are you living by the law of the land or the laws of God?
If you follow the laws of a God; which God?
Regards DL
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Post by greatestiam on Mar 28, 2019 23:34:15 GMT
I spoke with god, the great teacher, the one time.
What did you specifically learn that was new to you at the time you first spoke to god?
What did he teach you that changed your mind about things?
Regards DL
Spoke with God one time is not accurate. If I said that I was implying i have talked with God. But when he speaks out loud I only listen. A little like a deer caught in the head lights. Honestly.
I learned for one God is real and that his Devils are too. I was before what man calls the God council and they were angry with me. So at that time Satan who was playing the role of God at the time told me that I had to obey the ten commandments. Now I thought he was God At that time. So i went and studied the law. And As i did i kept getting text visions saying you do not have to follow that law. I thought that was the Devil just like most of you still would or do. I saw slavery and killing in the law and judgments and i saw favoritism shown to the wealthy in them too. At that point I knew they were evil and the one telling me I did not have to follow them had helped me conquer and divide that. I believe that one is the True god. For he did tell me the truth.
So once i saw the law was not holy and got a confession from Satan about it i started to find that Jesus was looking like a false messiah. Than i read a part were he endorsed that evil as holy even over the healing he had done. So he at that point was the false Messiah for sure giving you a law of evil and saying dainty things to make prejudice breed in there minds over silly things like hating you saying cunt and calling you unholy for saying it. But the exact same picture comes to mind if you say vagina but that is accepted a reason to hate were no hate should be. Understand? He endorsed a law of false peace giving the devil great power over the minds of men. There is a lot more but that's the just of it.
So when you worship those books you worship the beast and his lessons and his false prophets full of false sign. They actually think they need hell before they can have heaven. That is beast worship my friend I am a real judged and chosen by his spoken word. I was like a deer caught in the head lights man.
My first sentence began with "I", not you. It referred to me.
Strange that the God I spoke with said to ignore anything supernatural as it was all worthless garbage.
I don't know where you wish to go from here as your started with evil and Satan while mine started with good and god.
Regards DL
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Post by prophettom on Mar 29, 2019 2:07:13 GMT
Spoke with God one time is not accurate. If I said that I was implying i have talked with God. But when he speaks out loud I only listen. A little like a deer caught in the head lights. Honestly.
I learned for one God is real and that his Devils are too. I was before what man calls the God council and they were angry with me. So at that time Satan who was playing the role of God at the time told me that I had to obey the ten commandments. Now I thought he was God At that time. So i went and studied the law. And As i did i kept getting text visions saying you do not have to follow that law. I thought that was the Devil just like most of you still would or do. I saw slavery and killing in the law and judgments and i saw favoritism shown to the wealthy in them too. At that point I knew they were evil and the one telling me I did not have to follow them had helped me conquer and divide that. I believe that one is the True god. For he did tell me the truth.
So once i saw the law was not holy and got a confession from Satan about it i started to find that Jesus was looking like a false messiah. Than i read a part were he endorsed that evil as holy even over the healing he had done. So he at that point was the false Messiah for sure giving you a law of evil and saying dainty things to make prejudice breed in there minds over silly things like hating you saying cunt and calling you unholy for saying it. But the exact same picture comes to mind if you say vagina but that is accepted a reason to hate were no hate should be. Understand? He endorsed a law of false peace giving the devil great power over the minds of men. There is a lot more but that's the just of it.
So when you worship those books you worship the beast and his lessons and his false prophets full of false sign. They actually think they need hell before they can have heaven. That is beast worship my friend I am a real judged and chosen by his spoken word. I was like a deer caught in the head lights man.
My first sentence began with "I", not you. It referred to me.
Strange that the God I spoke with said to ignore anything supernatural as it was all worthless garbage.
I don't know where you wish to go from here as your started with evil and Satan while mine started with good and god.
Regards DL
Yeah mine started with God and the judgment after that came devils to war against me. If you looking in a religious book as the answer to good and evil it is only the perfect example of well executed evil and that is the only worthy lesson it carries. Supernatural stuff well not exactly God stuff. It is that ghost stuff that is a farce.
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Post by greatestiam on Mar 29, 2019 14:01:51 GMT
My first sentence began with "I", not you. It referred to me.
Strange that the God I spoke with said to ignore anything supernatural as it was all worthless garbage.
I don't know where you wish to go from here as your started with evil and Satan while mine started with good and god.
Regards DL
Yeah mine started with God and the judgment after that came devils to war against me. If you looking in a religious book as the answer to good and evil it is only the perfect example of well executed evil and that is the only worthy lesson it carries. Supernatural stuff well not exactly God stuff. It is that ghost stuff that is a farce. IOW, you will remain in fantasy land instead of trying to dither out the real world.
That is why your ilk resorted to inquisitions and murder instead of converting by decent moral arguments.
You will not listen to me but might be interested in what the founders of your religion had to say about the foolish literal reading of myths.
I hope you can see how intelligent the ancients were as compared to the mental trash that modern preachers and theists are using with the literal reading of myths.
bigthink.com/videos/what-is-god-2-2
Further. www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html
Rabbi Hillel, the older contemporary of Jesus, said that when asked to sum up the whole of Jewish teaching, while he stood on one leg, said, "The Golden Rule. That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the Torah. And everything else is only commentary. Now, go and study it."
Please listen as to what is said about the literal reading of myths.
"Origen, the great second or third century Greek commentator on the Bible said that it is absolutely impossible to take these texts literally. You simply cannot do so. And he said, "God has put these sort of conundrums and paradoxes in so that we are forced to seek a deeper meaning."
Matt 7;12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.
This is how early Gnostic Christians view the transition from reading myths properly to destructive literal reading and idol worship.
Regards DL
Regards DL
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Post by prophettom on Mar 29, 2019 23:58:38 GMT
IOW, you will remain in fantasy land instead of trying to dither out the real world.
That is why your ilk resorted to inquisitions and murder instead of converting by decent moral arguments.
You will not listen to me but might be interested in what the founders of your religion had to say about the foolish literal reading of myths.
I hope you can see how intelligent the ancients were as compared to the mental trash that modern preachers and theists are using with the literal reading of myths.
bigthink.com/videos/what-is-god-2-2
Further. www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html
Rabbi Hillel, the older contemporary of Jesus, said that when asked to sum up the whole of Jewish teaching, while he stood on one leg, said, "The Golden Rule. That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the Torah. And everything else is only commentary. Now, go and study it."
Please listen as to what is said about the literal reading of myths.
"Origen, the great second or third century Greek commentator on the Bible said that it is absolutely impossible to take these texts literally. You simply cannot do so. And he said, "God has put these sort of conundrums and paradoxes in so that we are forced to seek a deeper meaning."
Matt 7;12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.
This is how early Gnostic Christians view the transition from reading myths properly to destructive literal reading and idol worship.
Regards DL
Regards DL
And the world shall marvel after the beast from these false prophets and their false Gods. They are all fallen you can always find there evil in the laws. The only good law in any of it is as you said do to others as you would have them do for you. That means when they are guilty treat them how you would wanted to be treated if you fell and end up guilty of a sin. However because all the stuff surrounding that one simple truth Negates it by breeding prejudice were no hate should be. Jealousy. Hell and death. and confuse vengeance as just when it wont fit in the one simple true law of all that have walked in prophecy. But because they left evil in those lessons for fear of removing that evil as evil and teaching it as evil instead of good. Than and only than have you reached the truth. the rest just is to guide you away from the truth and make you fallen marked in the beast. ALL RELIGIONS FOUND ON THIS EARTH ARE A CREATION OF THE BEAST. ANYTHING GOOD IN THEM IS ONLY THERE TO HIDE THAT FACT FROM THE MASSES!
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Post by greatestiam on Mar 30, 2019 0:27:10 GMT
Thanks for the opportunity to quote your bible to you. The parts you have not read or heeded.
Now, therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee. 1Kings 22:23
Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets. 2 Chron 18:22
Ah, Lord GOD! surely thou hast greatly deceived this people. Jer 4:10
And if a prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet. Ezekiel 14:9
For this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie. Thessalonians 2:11
O Lord, thou hast deceived me, and I was deceived. - Jeremiah 20:7
To me, God’s worse lie was to Adam and Eve. He told them they could eat of the tree of life and then reneged and in a real sense murdered them by denying them a remedy.
That pesky God sure works in mysterious ways.
Can you take more truth?
Isaiah 56:11) "They are shepherds who have no understanding; They have all turned to their own way, each on to his unjust gain, to the last one" But do not despair, for the day of judgment is at hand, for the day of judgment and the day of the LORD occupy the same time frame. All the dross will be burned away. (Zech 13:9) & (Malachi 3:3). In that day, "you will distinguish between the righteous and the wicked" (Malachi 3:18)
I waste my time as you will not do what scriptures tell you of how to grow your wisdom. I guess you have none to perfect.
Hebrews 6 King James Version; 1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, 2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
Regards DL
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Post by prophettom on Mar 30, 2019 4:35:19 GMT
Thanks for the opportunity to quote your bible to you. The parts you have not read or heeded. Now, therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee. 1Kings 22:23 Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets. 2 Chron 18:22 Ah, Lord GOD! surely thou hast greatly deceived this people. Jer 4:10 And if a prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet. Ezekiel 14:9 For this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie. Thessalonians 2:11 O Lord, thou hast deceived me, and I was deceived. - Jeremiah 20:7 To me, God’s worse lie was to Adam and Eve. He told them they could eat of the tree of life and then reneged and in a real sense murdered them by denying them a remedy. That pesky God sure works in mysterious ways. Can you take more truth? Isaiah 56:11) "They are shepherds who have no understanding; They have all turned to their own way, each on to his unjust gain, to the last one" But do not despair, for the day of judgment is at hand, for the day of judgment and the day of the LORD occupy the same time frame. All the dross will be burned away. (Zech 13:9) & (Malachi 3:3). In that day, "you will distinguish between the righteous and the wicked" (Malachi 3:18) I waste my time as you will not do what scriptures tell you of how to grow your wisdom. I guess you have none to perfect. Hebrews 6 King James Version; 1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, 2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. Regards DL He plants all those lies because he is a devil! So i am not sure of your point. I am against these teaching and I walk with them. The day of Judgment is the day that men on earth will know he is the evil that plagued the world and the minds of man kind. He did not work alone. Lastly Lord in those books are not God. God is not called the lord his fallen children are.
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Post by greatestiam on Mar 30, 2019 16:14:04 GMT
is a fantasy for those of so little faith that they think a good god would kill instead of cure.
That is mostly those who idol worship the biblical Yahweh, a genocidal son murdering prick that you do not trust to judge well.
That is why you drip childish fear. Go find a mother to console you, child.
Regards DL
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Post by prophettom on Mar 30, 2019 19:32:47 GMT
is a fantasy for those of so little faith that they think a good god would kill instead of cure.
That is mostly those who idol worship the biblical Yahweh, a genocidal son murdering prick that you do not trust to judge well.
That is why you drip childish fear. Go find a mother to console you, child.
Regards DL
I fight with Satan and Lucifer and a few of their siblings. You are not getting out of this. But fear? No you do not beat devils in fear. You are very confused person. It was not Fear God made me Chosen for
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Post by greatestiam on Apr 3, 2019 15:33:58 GMT
is a fantasy for those of so little faith that they think a good god would kill instead of cure.
That is mostly those who idol worship the biblical Yahweh, a genocidal son murdering prick that you do not trust to judge well.
That is why you drip childish fear. Go find a mother to console you, child.
Regards DL
I fight with Satan and Lucifer and a few of their siblings. You are not getting out of this. But fear? No you do not beat devils in fear. You are very confused person. It was not Fear God made me Chosen for
Only an idiot would call someone who does not believe in the supernatural confused, as he goes about believing in real talking serpents and donkeys.
What a buffoon.
Regards DL
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Post by prophettom on May 24, 2019 21:14:02 GMT
I fight with Satan and Lucifer and a few of their siblings. You are not getting out of this. But fear? No you do not beat devils in fear. You are very confused person. It was not Fear God made me Chosen for
Only an idiot would call someone who does not believe in the supernatural confused, as he goes about believing in real talking serpents and donkeys.
What a buffoon.
Regards DL
Once you have met them as i have there is no turning back. Logically you are sound. But the reality is i met them and it is all real.
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Post by Elizabeth on Feb 2, 2020 2:54:50 GMT
Only an idiot would call someone who does not believe in the supernatural confused, as he goes about believing in real talking serpents and donkeys.
What a buffoon.
Regards DL
Once you have met them as i have there is no turning back. Logically you are sound. But the reality is i met them and it is all real. Can you share the experience you had when this occured?
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Feb 2, 2020 3:20:42 GMT
Satan, if you look up the expulsion painting in the Vatican collection clearly show Satan as a female.
Jewish and Christian traditions see Yahweh as androgynous just as most Eastern Gods were seen.
God is the great teacher, as I found out during my apotheosis.
What did he teach you that was different that what you believed before your encounter?
IOW, what did he enlighten you on that you were wrong about?
Was the early church wrong in depicting Satan as female?
Regards DL
This is the part that is hard for people. I speak from personal exposure to them. So I do not really care what others say. I have dealt with them in person for near 6 years now and a little over one more to go.
I am with Lucifer now. Most days I am. Because he is the most stubborn about wanting me to teach the lies they told as truth. So being personally involved in that war in person. I don't care what they say or you think. Not trying to be be rude in that. But I live it. You read a few book and theorized with other scholars is all you did. few are those who know for certain what I do.
I have been judged pure of heart and Chosen by the Spoken word of God. Turns out the woman that was there is in fact this woman they speak of. She was there to bare witness. She is Satans Daughter. Satan claims her as a sister. And Lucifer Calls Satan his Father. But they are in fact just brothers. The women these days known as the Holy Ghost is one in the same as the one they pray in the name of. She is the whore of revelations.
Given that i know they do not mind using whatever name that suits them when they approach you. It is very possible that they did indeed speak with her back then. They want you confused. And is a tactic they would use. For me this is the way I was approached. the number is higher than you want to truly know.
I was Judged pure of heart for a good choice in my life's plan. It included a selfless sacrifice to all of heaven. And he said god that is. You have Chosen and You have been judged. You have chosen well and you have been chosen. than there was this song. Now I know things. Mostly I have just been taught how to help those who do not know what I do how to see it so they do.
It is a challenge to see your entire life's beliefs crumble before your eyes. Generations upon generations deep. In the end fear binds their heart from doing what they know they saw was true. Fear of losing self to hell keeps them bound to it. The entire plan is diabolical. Its real. Only God keeps you from falling for it forever. Few are those who can truly tell devil from God. It is not easy. All religions call devils God. Worship the evil they do to them in those pages. It is what makes Devils happy. To know they get to reach you even in heaven when you realize what a load of crap you really did fall for as law.
How do you know you're not being screwed with by demons? How do you know that everything you're seeing aren't just demons putting on the equivalent of a play to lead gullible Tom away from the true God of the Bible? Satan can appear as a angel of light after all. Also Lucifer is not anyone's name. Lucifer is Latin phrase referring to what ancients called the morning star or Venus as we now know it to be today (Lucifer comes from the Latin translation which carried over to the King James Bible, elsewhere it's usually translated morning star or shining star. Note that when the imagery of stars are used it usually means its referring to angels or celestial beings as ancient near easterners believed that the divine heavenly realm was in the sky and the stars were divine beings.) That passage in the Bible was talking about the king of Babylon and the spiritual power behind the king of Babylon (and later the same about the king of Tyre) which is the same as the serpent (which is Satan) in the Garden of Eden. We know this because of all the Edenic imagery in the verses and a lot of other reasons you can divine if you read the original Hebrew. Satan and "Lucifer" really are the same being and not different beings. Think, why would two different demons have names or titles in two different languages? Satan (or as the Hebrew says "the" Satan) is Hebrew for opposer or adversary (and is a title rather than a proper name) and Lucifer is Latin for Morning Star. What i'm saying is you're being hoodwinked by demons preying on your gullibility and need Jesus or you have severe schizophrenia delusions and need a medication. Get Jesus or medication or both depending on your situation.
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Post by greatestiam on Feb 4, 2020 12:22:10 GMT
Supernatural thinking is stupid thinking.
Regards DL
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