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Post by greatestiam on Feb 16, 2019 16:49:07 GMT
What is more important; Gods or the laws you think they promote?
I think the Moses myth tells us the answer but am curious as to what you think.
A number of constitutions and religious thinking systems put laws above Gods and their laws. We have all heard the phrase; We are a Nation of laws, not of men or Gods.
Laws can be followed while supernatural Gods, imaginary to me but perhaps real to you, even though they are all absentee Gods, cannot be physically followed. Only their laws can be.
One of the archetypal Jesus’ said he would know his people by their works and deeds, which to me means following his laws, and that is partly why I put the best rules and laws I can find above all the Gods.
Knowing that secular governments have rejected the laws of the Gods, are you living by the law of the land or the laws of God?
If you follow the laws of a God; which God?
Regards DL
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Feb 16, 2019 17:01:00 GMT
What is more important; Gods or the laws you think they promote? I think the Moses myth tells us the answer but am curious as to what you think. A number of constitutions and religious thinking systems put laws above Gods and their laws. We have all heard the phrase; We are a Nation of laws, not of men or Gods. Laws can be followed while supernatural Gods, imaginary to me but perhaps real to you, even though they are all absentee Gods, cannot be physically followed. Only their laws can be. One of the archetypal Jesus’ said he would know his people by their works and deeds, which to me means following his laws, and that is partly why I put the best rules and laws I can find above all the Gods. Knowing that secular governments have rejected the laws of the Gods, are you living by the law of the land or the laws of God? If you follow the laws of a God; which God? Regards DL What separates a universal principle from a deity itself. If space is a universal principle, as it observes certain axioms, what separates it from a divinity?
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Post by greatestiam on Feb 16, 2019 17:33:39 GMT
What is more important; Gods or the laws you think they promote? I think the Moses myth tells us the answer but am curious as to what you think. A number of constitutions and religious thinking systems put laws above Gods and their laws. We have all heard the phrase; We are a Nation of laws, not of men or Gods. Laws can be followed while supernatural Gods, imaginary to me but perhaps real to you, even though they are all absentee Gods, cannot be physically followed. Only their laws can be. One of the archetypal Jesus’ said he would know his people by their works and deeds, which to me means following his laws, and that is partly why I put the best rules and laws I can find above all the Gods. Knowing that secular governments have rejected the laws of the Gods, are you living by the law of the land or the laws of God? If you follow the laws of a God; which God? Regards DL What separates a universal principle from a deity itself. If space is a universal principle, as it observes certain axioms, what separates it from a divinity?
Not quite the issue but --- space is space and God is God. God is said to be sentient while space is not seen as sentient. Apples and oranges.
Regards DL
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Post by DKTrav88 on Feb 16, 2019 19:20:53 GMT
What separates a universal principle from a deity itself. If space is a universal principle, as it observes certain axioms, what separates it from a divinity?
Not quite the issue but --- space is space and God is God. God is said to be sentient while space is not seen as sentient. Apples and oranges.
Regards DL
His example probably wasn't the best, but his first question is completely relevant. What separates God's law from God?
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Post by prophettom on Feb 16, 2019 20:00:22 GMT
What is more important; Gods or the laws you think they promote? I think the Moses myth tells us the answer but am curious as to what you think. A number of constitutions and religious thinking systems put laws above Gods and their laws. We have all heard the phrase; We are a Nation of laws, not of men or Gods. Laws can be followed while supernatural Gods, imaginary to me but perhaps real to you, even though they are all absentee Gods, cannot be physically followed. Only their laws can be. One of the archetypal Jesus’ said he would know his people by their works and deeds, which to me means following his laws, and that is partly why I put the best rules and laws I can find above all the Gods. Knowing that secular governments have rejected the laws of the Gods, are you living by the law of the land or the laws of God? If you follow the laws of a God; which God? Regards DL Hi this one was just far to good to resist. It is far more important you follow the laws you know best. Do that and the right God will come to you. Rather than looking to change your core beliefs to fit a certain God or religion. Or even Law for that matter be it man or God law.
The Moses myth I like you more. Okay Satan did admit to me when pretending to be God that he had given those laws to Moses and looked him in the eyes when he did. So since i have met Satan in person and know how wretched he is. I am going to say he did. So that is not a Myth. It was a tool Satan Gave Moses with a few miracles to back it up used to deceive man into thinking vengeful laws are just laws. To make men evil from their creation. And it works.
God is real. He has indeed made what seem to be lessor Gods. the ones that used free will to choose to be evil are cast here to rule here and are stuck here. As long as they are. We will never travel the stars like others do. Our own system is the farthest we will get in the flesh until they are gone or repent. Yes I know for a fact. I have been judged and chosen by his spoken word.
Just be good do to others as you would want to be done. Even when they are bathed in guilt. That's the key. Best regards Love Prophet Tom.
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Post by greatestiam on Feb 17, 2019 0:47:41 GMT
What is more important; Gods or the laws you think they promote? I think the Moses myth tells us the answer but am curious as to what you think. A number of constitutions and religious thinking systems put laws above Gods and their laws. We have all heard the phrase; We are a Nation of laws, not of men or Gods. Laws can be followed while supernatural Gods, imaginary to me but perhaps real to you, even though they are all absentee Gods, cannot be physically followed. Only their laws can be. One of the archetypal Jesus’ said he would know his people by their works and deeds, which to me means following his laws, and that is partly why I put the best rules and laws I can find above all the Gods. Knowing that secular governments have rejected the laws of the Gods, are you living by the law of the land or the laws of God? If you follow the laws of a God; which God? Regards DL Hi this one was just far to good to resist. It is far more important you follow the laws you know best. Do that and the right God will come to you. Rather than looking to change your core beliefs to fit a certain God or religion. Or even Law for that matter be it man or God law.
The Moses myth I like you more. Okay Satan did admit to me when pretending to be God that he had given those laws to Moses and looked him in the eyes when he did. So since i have met Satan in person and know how wretched he is. I am going to say he did. So that is not a Myth. It was a tool Satan Gave Moses with a few miracles to back it up used to deceive man into thinking vengeful laws are just laws. To make men evil from their creation. And it works.
God is real. He has indeed made what seem to be lessor Gods. the ones that used free will to choose to be evil are cast here to rule here and are stuck here. As long as they are. We will never travel the stars like others do. Our own system is the farthest we will get in the flesh until they are gone or repent. Yes I know for a fact. I have been judged and chosen by his spoken word.
Just be good do to others as you would want to be done. Even when they are bathed in guilt. That's the key. Best regards Love Prophet Tom.
I need to confirm the truthfulness of your encounter to some extent.
Was/is Satan a male or female?
Regards DL
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Post by prophettom on Feb 17, 2019 6:38:36 GMT
Hi this one was just far to good to resist. It is far more important you follow the laws you know best. Do that and the right God will come to you. Rather than looking to change your core beliefs to fit a certain God or religion. Or even Law for that matter be it man or God law.
The Moses myth I like you more. Okay Satan did admit to me when pretending to be God that he had given those laws to Moses and looked him in the eyes when he did. So since i have met Satan in person and know how wretched he is. I am going to say he did. So that is not a Myth. It was a tool Satan Gave Moses with a few miracles to back it up used to deceive man into thinking vengeful laws are just laws. To make men evil from their creation. And it works.
God is real. He has indeed made what seem to be lessor Gods. the ones that used free will to choose to be evil are cast here to rule here and are stuck here. As long as they are. We will never travel the stars like others do. Our own system is the farthest we will get in the flesh until they are gone or repent. Yes I know for a fact. I have been judged and chosen by his spoken word.
Just be good do to others as you would want to be done. Even when they are bathed in guilt. That's the key. Best regards Love Prophet Tom.
I need to confirm the truthfulness of your encounter to some extent.
Was/is Satan a male or female?
Regards DL
Oh I am truthful about my encounters with those who are called Gods and Devils. Satan is male. God is Male. Lucifer is male Michael is male. The holy Spirit is female and Satans Sister. But he calls her daughter.
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Post by greatestiam on Feb 17, 2019 20:13:05 GMT
I need to confirm the truthfulness of your encounter to some extent.
Was/is Satan a male or female?
Regards DL
Oh I am truthful about my encounters with those who are called Gods and Devils. Satan is male. God is Male. Lucifer is male Michael is male. The holy Spirit is female and Satans Sister. But he calls her daughter.
Satan, if you look up the expulsion painting in the Vatican collection clearly show Satan as a female.
Jewish and Christian traditions see Yahweh as androgynous just as most Eastern Gods were seen.
God is the great teacher, as I found out during my apotheosis.
What did he teach you that was different that what you believed before your encounter?
IOW, what did he enlighten you on that you were wrong about?
Was the early church wrong in depicting Satan as female?
Regards DL
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Post by prophettom on Feb 18, 2019 7:20:15 GMT
Oh I am truthful about my encounters with those who are called Gods and Devils. Satan is male. God is Male. Lucifer is male Michael is male. The holy Spirit is female and Satans Sister. But he calls her daughter.
Satan, if you look up the expulsion painting in the Vatican collection clearly show Satan as a female.
Jewish and Christian traditions see Yahweh as androgynous just as most Eastern Gods were seen.
God is the great teacher, as I found out during my apotheosis.
What did he teach you that was different that what you believed before your encounter?
IOW, what did he enlighten you on that you were wrong about?
Was the early church wrong in depicting Satan as female?
Regards DL
This is the part that is hard for people. I speak from personal exposure to them. So I do not really care what others say. I have dealt with them in person for near 6 years now and a little over one more to go.
I am with Lucifer now. Most days I am. Because he is the most stubborn about wanting me to teach the lies they told as truth. So being personally involved in that war in person. I don't care what they say or you think. Not trying to be be rude in that. But I live it. You read a few book and theorized with other scholars is all you did. few are those who know for certain what I do.
I have been judged pure of heart and Chosen by the Spoken word of God. Turns out the woman that was there is in fact this woman they speak of. She was there to bare witness. She is Satans Daughter. Satan claims her as a sister. And Lucifer Calls Satan his Father. But they are in fact just brothers. The women these days known as the Holy Ghost is one in the same as the one they pray in the name of. She is the whore of revelations.
Given that i know they do not mind using whatever name that suits them when they approach you. It is very possible that they did indeed speak with her back then. They want you confused. And is a tactic they would use. For me this is the way I was approached. the number is higher than you want to truly know.
I was Judged pure of heart for a good choice in my life's plan. It included a selfless sacrifice to all of heaven. And he said god that is. You have Chosen and You have been judged. You have chosen well and you have been chosen. than there was this song. Now I know things. Mostly I have just been taught how to help those who do not know what I do how to see it so they do.
It is a challenge to see your entire life's beliefs crumble before your eyes. Generations upon generations deep. In the end fear binds their heart from doing what they know they saw was true. Fear of losing self to hell keeps them bound to it. The entire plan is diabolical. Its real. Only God keeps you from falling for it forever. Few are those who can truly tell devil from God. It is not easy. All religions call devils God. Worship the evil they do to them in those pages. It is what makes Devils happy. To know they get to reach you even in heaven when you realize what a load of crap you really did fall for as law.
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Post by greatestiam on Feb 18, 2019 20:34:36 GMT
Good. Send him over as I need new material and could use the hand and the love. Regards DL
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Feb 19, 2019 19:28:29 GMT
What separates a universal principle from a deity itself. If space is a universal principle, as it observes certain axioms, what separates it from a divinity?
Not quite the issue but --- space is space and God is God. God is said to be sentient while space is not seen as sentient. Apples and oranges.
Regards DL
Not really considering all phenomenon we understand to exist, even abstract thought in is purest form, is just space.
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Post by greatestiam on Feb 19, 2019 19:41:58 GMT
Not quite the issue but --- space is space and God is God. God is said to be sentient while space is not seen as sentient. Apples and oranges.
Regards DL
Not really considering all phenomenon we understand to exist, even abstract thought in is purest form, is just space. A lot of space and a little matter, yes. If that were not so, you and I would be as invisible as God.
That does not mean that space, that is considered as non-communicative, is the same as God, who is considered communicative.
Sentient and non-sentient. I repeat, apples and oranges.
Regards DL
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Post by prophettom on Mar 28, 2019 14:23:57 GMT
What is more important; Gods or the laws you think they promote? I think the Moses myth tells us the answer but am curious as to what you think. A number of constitutions and religious thinking systems put laws above Gods and their laws. We have all heard the phrase; We are a Nation of laws, not of men or Gods. Laws can be followed while supernatural Gods, imaginary to me but perhaps real to you, even though they are all absentee Gods, cannot be physically followed. Only their laws can be. One of the archetypal Jesus’ said he would know his people by their works and deeds, which to me means following his laws, and that is partly why I put the best rules and laws I can find above all the Gods. Knowing that secular governments have rejected the laws of the Gods, are you living by the law of the land or the laws of God? If you follow the laws of a God; which God? Regards DL Yeah i use to think pretty close to the same so i think i can help clear this up. God is real I have met him and seen miracles. Do actually take up the argument against Devils in person daily. So that's all real. What you have observed in religion is a valid concern. First of the laws are evil. that lead to a entire new reading for me once I saw that. All religions endorse some sort of evil in their laws. God wants rid of them. So the very thing they go to for guidance and salvation ends up being the mark of the beast. They are so afraid they will not admit they see why it is evil out loud. But God at times share their heart with me. Fear binds them to hell
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Post by greatestiam on Mar 28, 2019 23:01:34 GMT
What is more important; Gods or the laws you think they promote? I think the Moses myth tells us the answer but am curious as to what you think. A number of constitutions and religious thinking systems put laws above Gods and their laws. We have all heard the phrase; We are a Nation of laws, not of men or Gods. Laws can be followed while supernatural Gods, imaginary to me but perhaps real to you, even though they are all absentee Gods, cannot be physically followed. Only their laws can be. One of the archetypal Jesus’ said he would know his people by their works and deeds, which to me means following his laws, and that is partly why I put the best rules and laws I can find above all the Gods. Knowing that secular governments have rejected the laws of the Gods, are you living by the law of the land or the laws of God? If you follow the laws of a God; which God? Regards DL Yeah i use to think pretty close to the same so i think i can help clear this up. God is real I have met him and seen miracles. Do actually take up the argument against Devils in person daily. So that's all real. What you have observed in religion is a valid concern. First of the laws are evil. that lead to a entire new reading for me once I saw that. All religions endorse some sort of evil in their laws. God wants rid of them. So the very thing they go to for guidance and salvation ends up being the mark of the beast. They are so afraid they will not admit they see why it is evil out loud. But God at times share their heart with me. Fear binds them to hell I spoke with god, the great teacher, the one time.
What did you specifically learn that was new to you at the time you first spoke to god?
What did he teach you that changed your mind about things?
Regards DL
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Post by prophettom on Mar 28, 2019 23:25:14 GMT
Yeah i use to think pretty close to the same so i think i can help clear this up. God is real I have met him and seen miracles. Do actually take up the argument against Devils in person daily. So that's all real. What you have observed in religion is a valid concern. First of the laws are evil. that lead to a entire new reading for me once I saw that. All religions endorse some sort of evil in their laws. God wants rid of them. So the very thing they go to for guidance and salvation ends up being the mark of the beast. They are so afraid they will not admit they see why it is evil out loud. But God at times share their heart with me. Fear binds them to hell I spoke with god, the great teacher, the one time.
What did you specifically learn that was new to you at the time you first spoke to god?
What did he teach you that changed your mind about things?
Regards DL
Spoke with God one time is not accurate. If I said that I was implying i have talked with God. But when he speaks out loud I only listen. A little like a deer caught in the head lights. Honestly.
I learned for one God is real and that his Devils are too. I was before what man calls the God council and they were angry with me. So at that time Satan who was playing the role of God at the time told me that I had to obey the ten commandments. Now I thought he was God At that time. So i went and studied the law. And As i did i kept getting text visions saying you do not have to follow that law. I thought that was the Devil just like most of you still would or do. I saw slavery and killing in the law and judgments and i saw favoritism shown to the wealthy in them too. At that point I knew they were evil and the one telling me I did not have to follow them had helped me conquer and divide that. I believe that one is the True god. For he did tell me the truth.
So once i saw the law was not holy and got a confession from Satan about it i started to find that Jesus was looking like a false messiah. Than i read a part were he endorsed that evil as holy even over the healing he had done. So he at that point was the false Messiah for sure giving you a law of evil and saying dainty things to make prejudice breed in there minds over silly things like hating you saying cunt and calling you unholy for saying it. But the exact same picture comes to mind if you say vagina but that is accepted a reason to hate were no hate should be. Understand? He endorsed a law of false peace giving the devil great power over the minds of men. There is a lot more but that's the just of it.
So when you worship those books you worship the beast and his lessons and his false prophets full of false sign. They actually think they need hell before they can have heaven. That is beast worship my friend I am a real judged and chosen by his spoken word. I was like a deer caught in the head lights man.
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