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Post by Elizabeth on Feb 12, 2019 6:32:54 GMT
Something has been on my mind today. Don't most people (men and women) wear their own form of a hijab today? They may just call it differently but in reality it's basically a gown/dress. Take a look what I mean... A woman in a hijab.  A nun in her clothing.  A monk in his clothing.  A pope in his clothing.  A priest in his clothing.  An Indian man dressed in a dress for his wedding.  People in dresses/gowns from the past.  That completes our show of men and women in dresses/gowns. So like I noticed that since the past the men and women both wore dresses/gowns. And some have carried it over to today when we now have more masculine and feminine clothing. So why are some still living in old times and even carried it into religion when it was just an old way to dress when we didn't fully have gender clothes? A muslim woman is no different than a catholic nun or their male versions the priests, pops, and monks. I even dress like them when I'm out of the shower and in my robe with my hair in a towel. And men still today wear dresses/skirts temporarily when out of a shower with a towel on. My point is how are we really all that different? In dress? Maybe some are but still not always different in dress. Some still like the old times of dresses/gowns which is fine for women but not men these days with clothing standards in place. But don't put a woman in a dress/gown only anymore because we have girl pants too. And those claming that pants are for men then I have some cute flowerly pants for you to wear. I wish I still had my bright leather purple butterfly pants to give you too. Pants are like jackets or hats or gloves or shoes or whatever which both genders can wear. Anyone have anything to say? I'll go find my girliest pants to donate to men now... |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Feb 15, 2019 1:31:41 GMT
I'd say it's a little not like that. Orthodoxy didn't make an influence on fashion (any clothes), it was pagan's style that had influenced on fashion. The pagan's style took an origin from difference tribes and from different folks. Bogatyrs, for example, came from India's fashion. We can find them similar. The traces of roots led to the legendary Aryan's tribes.  So you're saying orthodoxy isn't influencing any clothes? So women do not have to wear this...?  No, it's not an influence of Orthodoxy. I knew it good, because I studied the history of Orthodoxy, including the traditional side behind of it. The Eastern Orthodoxy contains a huge part of pagans influence. This was a problem for the first face of the church in the beginning of the X century. There were some proclamations to believers from priests to not to use pagans elements, but... it couldn't be stopped. Widespread influence had captured almost every single area of believer lives. There was an example "A Word Of Law and Grace" of mitropolit Illarion (or Hillarion) {"Слово о законе и благодати" митрополита Иллариона} where we could find some typical critiques of using pagans elements in the daily, or routine life of the church. The same situation was brightly presented in XVI century in Maxim the Greek biography. He was working on some issues in one of Russian's monastery, but he noticed during his practice that the liturgy (the mostly, but the same was concerting to many parts of clerical and believers lives) went wrong, and many things were twisted, and misinterpreted. The cover to head is just a tradition. I think it's not a bad tradition if we try to follow the inside sense of it: to obey Lord, and shot Him humble. As far as the East is too (I'd say toooooooooooooooooooo) get along with the traditions, so this doesn't seem to be bother for many believers. Honestly speaking, lately, I began to notice that some believers started to worry about it. There were worryings of some, but it wasn't such worrying as newest. The western traditions have become too impressive through many things for the people from the East, and this reason has tight them to rational and critique position toward the traditions. And, you know, I can't say it is good. The Western doesn't equal the most good. None knows what is better to us? Maybe not a pithecanthropus should have started to use his mind ability to increase his memory. So, devastating of Eastern traditions could be much more worse than we had expected. I'd prefer to follow Aristotle's rule of "The Golden Middle". I think it is the right one now. The modern world is too confused now, and many freakish things appear 'round us. Hence, holding to some sane traditions would be great, and some traditions are good to leave it be. |
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Post by PISTON1246 on Feb 27, 2019 18:52:03 GMT
A trench coat kinda resembles a dress.
Men should be wearing pants and also when they are wearing a garment that looks like a dress.
Women should not be wearing a garment with pant legs on it. That includes underwear. Women should wear "panties" if anything. No boxers.
According to the Quran the whole world started as one religion and one nation with one language. The Quran speaks of the Torah. Genesis is in the Torah and in Genesis it says that men called upon the name of God in the days before the flood of prophet Noah peace be upon him. After the flood there was the tower of Babel and after that God or Allah confused the Earth's language and scattered people across the land.
Arabic I believe was the original language.
In one version of the Quran I read through it said that Allah wrote the master Quran and any other Quran we have here on Earth including the one Allah made Muhammad write peace be upon him is a copy of the original.
Islam is not a new religion and the Quran says Adam who was the first man was also a prophet peace be upon him.
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Post by fschmidt on Mar 1, 2019 17:51:00 GMT
The basic issue is modesty. The hijab is just a sign of modesty. When cultures decay, like modern culture, modesty is lost. Here is England before the decay:
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 5:05:06 GMT
A muslim woman is no different than a catholic nun A Muslim woman is a Muslim woman. You don't choose to be a woman, but a woman can choose to be a nun. Besides, the woman you posted wears a chador. They don't wear anything on their head every time they are outside or in company of anyone outside of their family. |
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Post by Elizabeth on Mar 7, 2019 5:19:14 GMT
@romeo I meant they're similar in how they dress only. Of course they're beliefs are different and a muslim woman is a muslim woman as a catholic woman. No clue what a chador is  but google gave me that image as the correct one  why not? Do you know? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 5:32:42 GMT
ElizabethI am wearing a hood on my head right now, with no reason. Yet I fail to see any similarity between me and a Muslim woman. We all wear clothes, and that's what people have in common, but... so what?
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Post by Elizabeth on Mar 7, 2019 5:49:52 GMT
ElizabethI am wearing a hood on my head right now, with no reason. Yet I fail to see any similarity between me and a Muslim woman. We all wear clothes, and that's what people have in common, but... so what? Well, some might have similarity in clothing style or some like to wear their hair a certain way. Some guys (like one of my bro's) likes to go bald and some men like having long beards like santa clause. We all still have some similarities based on things we like. |
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but google gave me that image as the correct one 