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Post by prophettom on Jan 19, 2019 17:28:12 GMT
Revelations 21:13 16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.
fur·long /ˈfərˌlôNG/ noun noun: furlong; plural noun: furlongs
an eighth of a mile, 220 yards.
So 220yards X 12,000 = 2,640,000 furlongs long. so if you know that a furlong is 1/8 of a mile you can take 2,640,000 Divided by 8 = 330,000 miles. so that is the size of it cubed
Revelations 21:17 17 And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.
So if you take 330,000 divide that by 144 you get 2,291.67 MILES!! that is the size of a real cubit..
Genesis 6:14-15
14 Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch.
15 And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits
If you apply that to the said size of the arc you learn that it could have not even fit on the earth. The size of a cubit is 2,291.67 MILES
as proven above.
That makes the arc 300 cubits long, so 300 X 2,291.67 = 687,501 MILES LONG!
50 cubits wide, So 50 X 2,291.67 = 114,583.5 MILES WIDE
30 cubits high. So that is 30 X 2,291.67 = 68,750 MILES HIGH! That flood never happened and is a Devils deceit. Love Prophet Tom.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jan 20, 2019 0:09:27 GMT
Okay, but it is more consistent to say that a cubit has to do with how long your arm or part of your arm is if Ezekiel 43:13 is saying a cubit is also the breadth of a hand than it is to do your math calculation for how long a cubit is. Your calculation theory is unreasonable/flawed as it is, it implies Revelations 21:17 is a secret math code for calculating the measurement of a cubit, but the context gives absolutely no hint at that, it only says the angel measured the wall at 144 cubits, it doesn't say "divide the length and breadth of the wall by the number of cubits and that's how long a cubit is", you're injecting something into the text at that point... apply your calculation for how long a cubit is to the measurements of everything else in the Bible that has measurements in cubits and none of it makes sense shoot, the Bible doesn't tell us how long a furlong is either but we see you using "a guess from man" to do your calculations What does make sense is using the discovered length of a cubit in archeology and historical records. So you admit there is defiantly a lie in the book. either way. The corrected math in revelations shows it to be 10.42 miles. I am the one who has met God. I say fallen angels made that flood and blamed God. To blaspheme Gods image. So i can accept yours as a real cubit of man. it makes all that work sure. But one or the other is a lie! My math is now correct. about the one in revelations. So lies are being told in those books. I never admitted to any lie in the Bible, because there isn't one. I just said the Bible doesn't give us a measure for either a cubit or a furlong because no culture used inches, feet, yards, or miles in those times Okay.. let's make a scenario here, let's say I met God too. He told me that the "God" you met is a liar and has been from the beginning. He says the fallen angels didn't write any part of the Bible. He says the Bible was preserved for all time by Him and that His words will never pass away. You might say that the God I met is the devil or devils, but my God says that the "God" you met is actually the devil and is deceiving you very badly. And now I'm stuck in a dilemma, whose God is right? What understanding do I lean on for truth? I asked you what your "God" says about trusting in men. You say your "God" says to judge men by their fruits.... well, your fruits have shown me that you lose your temper easily and get in a nearly blind rage which leads you to assume people are making claims that they aren't making, that your math skills are poor and you make mistakes which makes you just as fallible as every other man, that you think very highly of yourself, and that you think your words are perfect truth(even though you make mistakes like you did today). So, according to your "God", you aren't trustworthy because your fruits are full of error, fallibility, self-righteousness, false accusations, and impatience. My God tells me to never trust in any man, ever, but to only trust in Him. I think my God is the right God.
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Post by prophettom on Jan 20, 2019 1:14:06 GMT
So you admit there is defiantly a lie in the book. either way. The corrected math in revelations shows it to be 10.42 miles. I am the one who has met God. I say fallen angels made that flood and blamed God. To blaspheme Gods image. So i can accept yours as a real cubit of man. it makes all that work sure. But one or the other is a lie! My math is now correct. about the one in revelations. So lies are being told in those books. I never admitted to any lie in the Bible, because there isn't one. I just said the Bible doesn't give us a measure for either a cubit or a furlong because no culture used inches, feet, yards, or miles in those times Okay.. let's make a scenario here, let's say I met God too. He told me that the "God" you met is a liar and has been from the beginning. He says the fallen angels didn't write any part of the Bible. He says the Bible was preserved for all time by Him and that His words will never pass away. You might say that the God I met is the devil or devils, but my God says that the "God" you met is actually the devil and is deceiving you very badly. And now I'm stuck in a dilemma, whose God is right? What understanding do I lean on for truth? I asked you what your "God" says about trusting in men. You say your "God" says to judge men by their fruits.... well, your fruits have shown me that you lose your temper easily and get in a nearly blind rage which leads you to assume people are making claims that they aren't making, that your math skills are poor and you make mistakes which makes you just as fallible as every other man, that you think very highly of yourself, and that you think your words are perfect truth(even though you make mistakes like you did today). So, according to your "God", you aren't trustworthy because your fruits are full of error, fallibility, self-righteousness, false accusations, and impatience. My God tells me to never trust in any man, ever, but to only trust in Him. I think my God is the right God. Okay or I am at war with those devils. Which is true. You try living with years upon years of the Devil saying I hate you to you 24/7 because that is what I live with. Lets see how well you control the rage he tries to build.
When you defend them books you defend a Devils works no matter what seat he holds! That's where I am at. And my total lack of fear for eternal death makes it impossible for any God to fear me to follow evil. Here is the final law to know good from evil the rest you can trash! Do for others as you would have them do for you! If I was being ignorant I would want to be told and explained why. Which is exactly what I do for you.
Your fear pisses me off. It is no help to you in this. The God that judged me has never lied to me. Given that I do actually deal with Devils in person I have a huge advantage over you. Despite you think it makes me weak. When I was doing that math they were making my head swim. All the math was right but off due to one small mistake. WE ALL DO THAT AT TIMES!
I am quick to admit when I see why I was wrong. You are not. No one wants to be killed So you should not kill. No one wants to be a slave. So you should not have slaves. It is never fair to have a double standard that makes your own kind under you that gives you a right to kill them. Do you want killed just because you got placed in slavery and the owner doses not like you? No you don't! that's how you Know truth from lies!
The real truth is every time I point to you the evil that is done. You want to scream no its holy! BUT YOU DO NOT WANT TO SUFFER THOSE THINGS! SO YES IT IS EVIL! Even the things of manners leads to prejudices. Like it or not. Because a man uses a curse word does not make him evil or full of sin! The one damn time I make a mistake and I admit it rather than fight to make my mistake seem right. You still want to trash all over me! Than wonder why I hate the ignorance you keep!
It is a fact that book only leads to evil! PERIOD! you are a fool to think to try and make all these contradictions and things that break the one true way to be just. That is do to others as you want done to you! you do it every time you take up debate with me! You break that rule in favor of a evil one! The sooner you see that fact the better!
So follow that God of evil! Your choice for a short while more only! You always look at evil and say holy holy holy with your word. I find it so hard to believe that you don't see the evil and fear hell and death so much you would rather embrace it than defeat that evil! Than have the nerve to want to fight anyone that can prove it is evil!
The true chosen is pointing out these evils. Was told by God I do not have to follow that law! I can see clearly why I do not! Not only that I see why no one should! The one that says I do created the lies you are calling holy. He lies to me day and night and tries to confuse me when I do reveal his works in those books!
One math mistake in all I have posted here! You cant even figure out what true evil is! Yet you want to climb my ass all the time! YOU WILL REGRET THE CHOICES MADE! IT IS NOT POSSIBLE I AM WRONG FOLLOWING THAT TRUE LAW! Which Jesus did give first. But spoiled it by Empowering all the evil as holy!
That is the test you must pass to avoid a ass chewing from God in the judgment that will kill the lies you keep in your head as holy! 2 books are opened in that judgment. 1 that keeps lies as holy gotten here. 1 that reveals why they are evil which is the one God has me revealing to you!
You know not the evil you do and cant see how horrid your attacks are and try to protect evil lessons over the ones that reveal why they are evil. HORRIBLE CHOICE! THE ONE EVE MADE AND LOOK AT OUR WORLD FOR FOLLOWING THEM! They infected everything! The laws your brain, the prejudice built from dainty things, all the evil men do is empowered as holy in those books. Just like the laws of man it depends on how much you know what you can get away with!
Make a recording saying I hate you over and over until you tire of saying it. Than put head phones on and listen to it even one day in a loop. Than and only than will you have a fraction of what I go through every day from Lucifer himself For revealing it! He does it so my temper does get short so you can feel just in refusing the lessons pointing to evil in your religions. He does not want you to know how true it is what I teach! In turn he has you Making a evil from a dainty thing and call the one revealing evil the liar! Yet the evil is plain to see YOU KNOW IT! THAT'S WHY I GET PISSED! We have no room for your nonsense it kills!
You have no clue what you are really up against here! That should tell you a lot about all I endure to help you just to have you be a jack ass and try to empower it anyway! YES THAT PISSES ME SMOOTH OFF AT YOU! FOR ALL I DO TO HELP YOU THAT'S ALL I GET FROM YOU! THERE IS NO QUESTION I AM RIGHT! I MET THEM ALL!
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jan 20, 2019 2:35:42 GMT
I never admitted to any lie in the Bible, because there isn't one. I just said the Bible doesn't give us a measure for either a cubit or a furlong because no culture used inches, feet, yards, or miles in those times Okay.. let's make a scenario here, let's say I met God too. He told me that the "God" you met is a liar and has been from the beginning. He says the fallen angels didn't write any part of the Bible. He says the Bible was preserved for all time by Him and that His words will never pass away. You might say that the God I met is the devil or devils, but my God says that the "God" you met is actually the devil and is deceiving you very badly. And now I'm stuck in a dilemma, whose God is right? What understanding do I lean on for truth? I asked you what your "God" says about trusting in men. You say your "God" says to judge men by their fruits.... well, your fruits have shown me that you lose your temper easily and get in a nearly blind rage which leads you to assume people are making claims that they aren't making, that your math skills are poor and you make mistakes which makes you just as fallible as every other man, that you think very highly of yourself, and that you think your words are perfect truth(even though you make mistakes like you did today). So, according to your "God", you aren't trustworthy because your fruits are full of error, fallibility, self-righteousness, false accusations, and impatience. My God tells me to never trust in any man, ever, but to only trust in Him. I think my God is the right God. Okay or I am at war with those devils. Which is true. You try living with years upon years of the Devil saying I hate you to you 24/7 because that is what I live with. Lets see how well you control the rage he tries to build.
When you defend them books you defend a Devils works no matter what seat he holds! That's where I am at. And my total lack of fear for eternal death makes it impossible for any God to fear me to follow evil. Here is the final law to know good from evil the rest you can trash! Do for others as you would have them do for you! If I was being ignorant I would want to be told and explained why. Which is exactly what I do for you.
Your fear pisses me off. It is no help to you in this. The God that judged me has never lied to me. Given that I do actually deal with Devils in person I have a huge advantage over you. Despite you think it makes me weak. When I was doing that math they were making my head swim. All the math was right but off due to one small mistake. WE ALL DO THAT AT TIMES!
I am quick to admit when I see why I was wrong. You are not. No one wants to be killed So you should not kill. No one wants to be a slave. So you should not have slaves. It is never fair to have a double standard that makes your own kind under you that gives you a right to kill them. Do you want killed just because you got placed in slavery and the owner doses not like you? No you don't! that's how you Know truth from lies!
The real truth is every time I point to you the evil that is done. You want to scream no its holy! BUT YOU DO NOT WANT TO SUFFER THOSE THINGS! SO YES IT IS EVIL! Even the things of manners leads to prejudices. Like it or not. Because a man uses a curse word does not make him evil or full of sin! The one damn time I make a mistake and I admit it rather than fight to make my mistake seem right. You still want to trash all over me! Than wonder why I hate the ignorance you keep!
It is a fact that book only leads to evil! PERIOD! you are a fool to think to try and make all these contradictions and things that break the one true way to be just. That is do to others as you want done to you! you do it every time you take up debate with me! You break that rule in favor of a evil one! The sooner you see that fact the better!
So follow that God of evil! Your choice for a short while more only! You always look at evil and say holy holy holy with your word. I find it so hard to believe that you don't see the evil and fear hell and death so much you would rather embrace it than defeat that evil! Than have the nerve to want to fight anyone that can prove it is evil! The true chosen is pointing out these evils. Was told by God I do not have to follow that law! I can see clearly why I do not! Not only that I see why no one should! The one that says I do created the lies you are calling holy. He lies to me day and night and tries to confuse me when I do reveal his works in those books! One math mistake in all I have posted here! You cant even figure out what true evil is! Yet you want to climb my ass all the time! YOU WILL REGRET THE CHOICES MADE! IT IS NOT POSSIBLE I AM WRONG FOLLOWING THAT TRUE LAW! Which Jesus did give first. But spoiled it by Empowering all the evil as holy!
That is the test you must pass to avoid a ass chewing from God in the judgment that will kill the lies you keep in your head as holy! 2 books are opened in that judgment. 1 that keeps lies as holy gotten here. 1 that reveals why they are evil which is the one God has me revealing to you!
You know not the evil you do and cant see how horrid your attacks are and try to protect evil lessons over the ones that reveal why they are evil. HORRIBLE CHOICE! THE ONE EVE MADE AND LOOK AT OUR WORLD FOR FOLLOWING THEM! They infected everything! The laws your brain, the prejudice built from dainty things, all the evil men do is empowered as holy in those books. Just like the laws of man it depends on how much you know what you can get away with!
Make a recording saying I hate you over and over until you tire of saying it. Than put head phones on and listen to it even one day in a loop. Than and only than will you have a fraction of what I go through every day from Lucifer himself For revealing it! He does it so my temper does get short so you can feel just in refusing the lessons pointing to evil in your religions. He does not want you to know how true it is what I teach! In turn he has you Making a evil from a dainty thing and call the one revealing evil the liar! Yet the evil is plain to see YOU KNOW IT! THAT'S WHY I GET PISSED! We have no room for your nonsense it kills!
You have no clue what you are really up against here! That should tell you a lot about all I endure to help you just to have you be a jack ass and try to empower it anyway! YES THAT PISSES ME SMOOTH OFF AT YOU! FOR ALL I DO TO HELP YOU THAT'S ALL I GET FROM YOU! THERE IS NO QUESTION I AM RIGHT! I MET THEM ALL!
So I decide what is truth and what is a lie based on what I want? Suffer what? Slavery? We went through this already, but you ignore the points I made about slavery. Obviously, there are different forms of slavery; one can voluntarily sell themselves to someone because they don't have the means in dire times to provide for themselves, or they can be forced into it, the latter is not what the Bible promotes as holy. The Bible never says "slavery is holy", you say it does in Exodus 21, but it doesn't. It just gives ordinances for slave owners and the slave owners have to treat their slaves a specific(good) way, otherwise they get in a death sentence; a death sentence alone is a deterrent from owning slaves altogether. One would be more likely to just hire(employ) people than own slaves with the ordinances given by God for slave owners to follow. So God deters people from being slave owners with the strict ordinances He gives I believe that's a holy thing to do. You don't? Okay so you admit you are fallible, just like all other men, so why should I trust you? Matthew 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets. So the book that you say only leads to evil... says do to others as you want done to you, a verse which you follow, right? Well, wouldn't that make you the follower of evil? As far as me doing to others what I would like done to me, I tell people the truth in love as much as it make hurt them or make them angry or how negative it may be; the truth is priceless especially in times like these. I would like people to do the same for me, show me where I am wrong and give me correction, tell me truth in love. So, me telling you that you are wrong, is me telling you the truth in love. I believe you are very badly mistaken in your beliefs, and that whatever it is that is telling you that it is "God" is a demon and it is very very badly deceiving you. So, I don't think it is me breaking the rule, as I don't curse at you or belittle you or puff myself up to be something that I am not to convince you that I am right, as you do. It would be you who is breaking the rule at that point. You haven't proved it though Right, well, those old ordinances don't apply to the new covenant with Christ, but they are still holy anything that comes from God is holy. I mean, you want me to trust what you are saying and you can't even get simply math right I'm not trying to offend you, I am just pointing to the fact that men are fallible and should not be trusted. Wait, so when the law says "Thou shall not kill(murder)", that is an evil law? When the law says "Thou shall not covet", that is an evil law? When the law says "Though shall not steal", that is an evil law? When the law says "Though shall not bear false witness", that is an evil law? When the law says "Thou shall not commit adultery", that is an evil law? Do you want Lucifer to love you? I wouldn't want Lucifer to love me. Lucifer is the devil, the devil is the king of this world, so if the world loves you then you are the devil's child. There are quite a few people who hate me, you might be one, but I am not hated because of me, I am hated for Christ's sake, the world hated Him first before it hated me. I think you get upset because there's opposition to your beliefs that find contradictions and nonsense in those beliefs and you don't know how to retort any other way than to get angry and insult. Well, I do not believe you telling me that God's law is evil helps me at all. I mean, the laws even apply to the verse you follow in the book you say only leads to evil, Matthew 7:12; I don't want people to kill me so I don't kill people, I don't want people to steal from me so I don't steal from people, I don't want people to covet my things, so I don't covet theirs, I don't want to commit adultery because I wouldn't want my spouse to commit adultery against me, I don't want people to commit false witness against me so I don't do that to them: notice how these are all God given laws that you are calling evil which correlate to a verse that you follow in a book that you say only leads to evil. I am only pointing contradictions in your beliefs and instead of seeing those contradictions, you get angry and you repeat "the law is evil and unholy, you follow evil, I am the only prophet of God, I am a victim, you will regret disagreeing with me, I hate you, etc" instead of considering that you may have it wrong after all. You should know that you aren't correct all the time, as today you got a simple math calculation incorrect and was corrected by people who "follow evil", what makes you think you don't have your beliefs wrong too?
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Post by prophettom on Jan 20, 2019 3:16:49 GMT
Your point have no validity!
Yes I have proven it!
You are to blinded to see.
You want to call me strawman. Yet it is you that grasps at straws to try to keep evil holy.
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Post by jonbain on Jan 21, 2019 0:06:12 GMT
Revelations 21:13 16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.
fur·long /ˈfərˌlôNG/ noun noun: furlong; plural noun: furlongs
an eighth of a mile, 220 yards.
So 220yards X 12,000 = 2,640,000 furlongs long. so if you know that a furlong is 1/8 of a mile you can take 2,640,000 Divided by 8 = 330,000 miles. so that is the size of it cubed
Revelations 21:17 17 And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.
So if you take 330,000 divide that by 144 you get 2,291.67 MILES!! that is the size of a real cubit..
Genesis 6:14-15
14 Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch.
15 And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits
If you apply that to the said size of the arc you learn that it could have not even fit on the earth. The size of a cubit is 2,291.67 MILES
as proven above.
That makes the arc 300 cubits long, so 300 X 2,291.67 = 687,501 MILES LONG!
50 cubits wide, So 50 X 2,291.67 = 114,583.5 MILES WIDE
30 cubits high. So that is 30 X 2,291.67 = 68,750 MILES HIGH! That flood never happened and is a Devils deceit. Love Prophet Tom. I reckon the Ark was a spaceship.
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Post by prophettom on Jan 21, 2019 4:05:52 GMT
Revelations 21:13 16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.
fur·long /ˈfərˌlôNG/ noun noun: furlong; plural noun: furlongs
an eighth of a mile, 220 yards.
So 220yards X 12,000 = 2,640,000 furlongs long. so if you know that a furlong is 1/8 of a mile you can take 2,640,000 Divided by 8 = 330,000 miles. so that is the size of it cubed
Revelations 21:17 17 And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.
So if you take 330,000 divide that by 144 you get 2,291.67 MILES!! that is the size of a real cubit..
Genesis 6:14-15
14 Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch.
15 And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits
If you apply that to the said size of the arc you learn that it could have not even fit on the earth. The size of a cubit is 2,291.67 MILES
as proven above.
That makes the arc 300 cubits long, so 300 X 2,291.67 = 687,501 MILES LONG!
50 cubits wide, So 50 X 2,291.67 = 114,583.5 MILES WIDE
30 cubits high. So that is 30 X 2,291.67 = 68,750 MILES HIGH! That flood never happened and is a Devils deceit. Love Prophet Tom. I reckon the Ark was a spaceship. Yeah the math was off the corrected math said a cubit was 10.42 miles. which is still huge.So I don't really know. But it is possible. The other means to measure it would work on this earth. But no way on the 10.42 miles that was revealed here. I think it was a lie passed down by Devils. That is the only place a cubit can be defined through simple math. It is possible the other means to measure it was used and it did happen. But I don't think it was God that flooded it if it did happen. I mean it is God he can make the beasts from the Dust. Why would he need Noah to save them unless it was not God that did it? I found so many lies and deceits in all books i have looked at. I know Devils are real. I know for a fact so is God. But the fact that he needed the beasts saved says to me it was devils. but this does prove lies are told in these books. That is the only fact i have on the matter of this. Thanks for your help man.
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