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Post by fschmidt on Jan 19, 2019 2:22:43 GMT
Modern culture is an infectious disease that causes depravity. Do you care about this? Do you want to resist depravity?
I ask because I want to organize some means of resisting modern culture. Unlike my previous attempts, I want to do this in a way that works whatever your religion is. All religions are welcome, but naturally I would expect members of conservative religions like Islam and Orthodox Christianity to be more likely to be interested. But regardless of your religion, please let me know if you are interested in working to resist depraved modern culture. I want to discuss ideas about how we could do this.
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Post by fschmidt on Jan 19, 2019 7:31:21 GMT
I don't think I advocated for being one with evil When you live in a world dominated by evil, being one with evil is what happens by default if you fail to take measures to resist. This is why I am saying that groups should be organized to resist modern culture. And this goes beyond just educating people. |
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jan 19, 2019 7:58:41 GMT
I don't think I advocated for being one with evil When you live in a world dominated by evil, being one with evil is what happens by default if you fail to take measures to resist. This is why I am saying that groups should be organized to resist modern culture. And this goes beyond just educating people. A Biblical education is a step in the right direction in resisting evil. How else would one know of evil without the Bible? |
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Post by fschmidt on Jan 19, 2019 8:06:48 GMT
A Biblical education is a step in the right direction in resisting evil. How else would one know of evil without the Bible? I have nothing against a Biblical education. What I am saying is that this is not enough. If it was enough then Christianity would not be in the poor moral state that it is in today. Of course good and evil is discussed in many places outside the Bible. Ancient Athens was reasonably moral with a pagan religion, more moral than the average Christian today. And then there is Islam with the Quran, and various Eastern religions. |
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jan 19, 2019 8:34:24 GMT
A Biblical education is a step in the right direction in resisting evil. How else would one know of evil without the Bible? I have nothing against a Biblical education. What I am saying is that this is not enough. If it was enough then Christianity would not be in the poor moral state that it is in today. Of course good and evil is discussed in many places outside the Bible. Ancient Athens was reasonably moral with a pagan religion, more moral than the average Christian today. And then there is Islam with the Quran, and various Eastern religions. Really, there isn't anything that is "enough" that we can do. Biblical prophecy says that this world will come to an end one day because the world will turn away from God and will be like the days of Noah. The best we can do is teach our children(with a real Biblical education) to resist the evil of this world and teach those who come to Christ the same. You say a Biblical education isn't enough and use the current state of Christianity as evidence of that, but the current state of "Christianity" isn't a Biblical Christianity. Catholics, Orthodox, and most Protestant denominations have it wrong and don't follow the Bible, they follow their church or their pope or their priest or their pastor. |
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Post by fschmidt on Jan 19, 2019 8:57:31 GMT
Really, there isn't anything that is "enough" that we can do. Biblical prophecy says that this world will come to an end one day because the world will turn away from God and will be like the days of Noah. The best we can do is teach our children(with a real Biblical education) to resist the evil of this world and teach those who come to Christ the same. You say a Biblical education isn't enough and use the current state of Christianity as evidence of that, but the current state of "Christianity" isn't a Biblical Christianity. Catholics, Orthodox, and most Protestant denominations have it wrong and don't follow the Bible, they follow their church or their pope or their priest or their pastor. Just because something is inevitable doesn't mean that we shouldn't try to delay it. For example my death is inevitable, but I will do what I can to delay it as long as possible. The same should apply to universal depravity which we should do our best to delay. Our best is not limited to teaching our children. For example I prevented my children from watching TV, eating junk food, spending too much time playing video games, etc. This goes beyond teaching and involves eliminating evil from their lives. I am not going to comment on which Christian sects are "Biblical" since I am not even Christian. But I will say that almost all Christian sects lived up to higher moral standards in the past, and that the cause of the decline is modern culture. Remove modern culture from these sects, and they should return to their former higher moral state. |
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jan 19, 2019 18:21:03 GMT
Really, there isn't anything that is "enough" that we can do. Biblical prophecy says that this world will come to an end one day because the world will turn away from God and will be like the days of Noah. The best we can do is teach our children(with a real Biblical education) to resist the evil of this world and teach those who come to Christ the same. You say a Biblical education isn't enough and use the current state of Christianity as evidence of that, but the current state of "Christianity" isn't a Biblical Christianity. Catholics, Orthodox, and most Protestant denominations have it wrong and don't follow the Bible, they follow their church or their pope or their priest or their pastor. Just because something is inevitable doesn't mean that we shouldn't try to delay it. For example my death is inevitable, but I will do what I can to delay it as long as possible. The same should apply to universal depravity which we should do our best to delay. Our best is not limited to teaching our children. For example I prevented my children from watching TV, eating junk food, spending too much time playing video games, etc. This goes beyond teaching and involves eliminating evil from their lives. I am not going to comment on which Christian sects are "Biblical" since I am not even Christian. But I will say that almost all Christian sects lived up to higher moral standards in the past, and that the cause of the decline is modern culture. Remove modern culture from these sects, and they should return to their former higher moral state. Teaching our children a biblical education would delay the inevitable. Preventing our children from watching television, eating junk food, playing video games, etc involves teaching them. A true biblical education for our children and those who want to turn from modern culture to Christ would achieve a higher moral state for them. |
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Post by AppLeo on Jan 22, 2019 21:13:17 GMT
Modern culture is an infectious disease that causes depravity. Do you care about this? Do you want to resist depravity? I ask because I want to organize some means of resisting modern culture. Unlike my previous attempts, I want to do this in a way that works whatever your religion is. All religions are welcome, but naturally I would expect members of conservative religions like Islam and Orthodox Christianity to be more likely to be interested. But regardless of your religion, please let me know if you are interested in working to resist depraved modern culture. I want to discuss ideas about how we could do this. How would you define modern culture? What about is it that you dislike? |
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Post by fschmidt on Jan 26, 2019 3:21:10 GMT
How would you define modern culture? Culture can't be defined. Just visit your local shopping mall or browse the Web. Everything. It is pure evil. |
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Post by karl on Jan 26, 2019 3:33:55 GMT
How would you define modern culture? Culture can't be defined. Just visit your local shopping mall or browse the Web. Everything. It is pure evil. What is the standard upon which you make that assessment? You have earlier written that you chose religion because you realised that Atheism leads to immorality. I understand that it's a matter of preferring traditional values, but is this something you mainly feel, or does this come from philosophical reflections that you haven't revealed?
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Post by fschmidt on Jan 26, 2019 3:43:58 GMT
What is the standard upon which you make that assessment? You have earlier written that you chose religion because you realised that Atheism leads to immorality. I understand that it's a matter of preferring traditional values, but is this something you mainly feel, or does this come from philosophical reflections that you haven't revealed? Both. If your feelings aren't in sync with your philosophical reflections, then you have more reflecting to do. A good religion/culture/morality is found in a rising society. A bad religion/culture/morality is found in a falling society. Modern culture resembles decaying cultures in history. The only difference is that modern culture promotes those behaviors that correlate with decaying cultures and inversely correlate with rising cultures to a degree never before seen in history. |
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Post by AppLeo on Jan 27, 2019 4:07:05 GMT
How would you define modern culture? Culture can't be defined. Just visit your local shopping mall or browse the Web. Everything. It is pure evil. Well not everything can be pure evil. There's good and bad in everything. Also, if you value a discussion and seeking out a solution, you should talk about what you specifically don't like. When you don't tell me anything specific, I suspect that you don't really know what you're talking about when you call our culture evil. That's not to be rude, but going around calling things evil doesn't help. |
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Post by fschmidt on Jan 27, 2019 4:20:37 GMT
Well not everything can be pure evil. There's good and bad in everything. Also, if you value a discussion and seeking out a solution, you should talk about what you specifically don't like. When you don't tell me anything specific, I suspect that you don't really know what you're talking about when you call our culture evil. That's not to be rude, but going around calling things evil doesn't help. Modern culture is pure evil. There is nothing good about it. I posted a short list of things I don't like here: arktos.boards.net/thread/4160/alliance-evil |
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