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Post by Mortimer on Oct 30, 2017 3:55:28 GMT
I have many, but one is in my signature.
Another one
If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha. 1 Corinthians 16:22
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Aug 3, 2019 1:53:57 GMT
No, Christianity as a whole doesn't follow these Old Testament laws that you're talking about. The Catholics don't, the Orthodox don't, and the Protestants certainly do not. There's the concept of the old covenant verses the new covenant. When Jesus came he established a new covenant with mankind. This New Covenant meant that we don't have to follow old Jewish laws made specifically for ancient Israel. That's why Christians eat pork and shellfish, its why we don't sacrifice goats at a temple to cleanse us of our sins, its why we don't stone children who disobey their parents or kill homosexuals. This is basic Christianity. ok so ure the new christian, the bible that got revised for the 1000 times and became new. ok ill find insanity in that too but thanks for clearing out modern christian The Bible has not been revised for 1000 times. We have copies of scripture from ancient days. It's called the dead sea scrolls. It says the same thing that the modern Bible says.
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Post by fschmidt on Aug 3, 2019 6:17:29 GMT
"But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you." (Deuteronomy 22: 20-21)
The "father's house" in Paris Hilton's case would be any Hilton hotel The "father's house" in Paris Hilton's case would be any Hilton hotel, so we know that if fundamentalists were really taking everything the way "God" intended, then it should be a well-known and widespread Christian agenda to call for the public stoning of Paris Hilton. Also, there are edge-cases where, if a little girl has an accident or is injured during sports, the Bible says they should be stoned to death. It's pretty well known that it's entirely possible (and not at all irregular) for a young woman's hymen to be accidentally broken due to accidents or even playing certain sports like gymnastics. This also means that in order to enforce a rule like this, churches need to have regular "Hymen Checks" at the dorr, but they don't, because we're human beings and we're trying to live in a little thing called "society." Actually every civilized culture in history did something like this as Unwin showed in "Sex and Culture". Yes anthropology makes evolutionary sense. "For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous, Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded, Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken. No man that hath a blemish of the seed of Aaron the priest shall come nigh to offer the offerings of the Lord made by fire: he hath a blemish; he shall not come nigh to offer the bread of his God." (Leviticus 21:18-21)Apparently, God reads US Weekly and takes it to heart. Although since he is all knowing and all powerful, then that also means that he reads every magazine ever written. So it theoretically isn't an untrue statement that yes, God reads Out Magazine. According to The Bible, people who are born with or acquire defects throughout their lives should not approach the altar of a Church to make an offering to God because they "hath a blemish." Christians are always saying God loves everyone but this list of "or"s excludes a whole group of people who actually have no control over what they look like most of the time. From something as superficial as a flat nose to once again with the "broken stones" (Women may be inferior in God's eyes, but he sure knows how to make a man feel worthless.) Congrats God, you've found a way to hold every disabled and unprotected person responsible for things out of their control and make them feel like crap about it. Clovis u cannot approach god in that sense I follow the Old Testament. The God of the Old Testament is the god of evolution as this makes clear. If in spite of this you still do not listen to me but continue to be hostile toward me, 28 then in my anger I will be hostile toward you, and I myself will punish you for your sins seven times over. 29 You will eat the flesh of your sons and the flesh of your daughters."(Leviticus 26:27-30)
If you break even a single one of these rules, you need to eat your children. Doesn't matter how old they are, doesn't matter what you do, but if you disobey God and his ways, he's going to wreak some serious havoc. In this part of Leviticus, it's really God making a bunch of threats rules and maybe he just got a little out of hand, but yes, he says that if you disobey him, he's gonna make you eat your kids. God is just laying out the facts. And in fact this actually happened multiple times in history is documented in the Old Testament and by Josephus. "A bitched shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the Lord." (Deuteronomy 23:2)A bitched is someone who was born outside of wedlock, which means you were born before your parents were married. Being born out of wedlock makes you filthy, apparently; so filthy in fact that it takes ten genetic steps down the line to wash how filthy it makes you. So your family's 100% awesome to come to church in like a century or two if you're a bitched, which I guess is fair. Wait, but what if your dad abandoned you and your mom after she had given birth to you... that means you're going to be held responsible and deprived of God's love... which... Wow, this means that Christian orphanages are hypocritical institutions if they're taking these kids to church. Brutal. "a bitched"? I think you mean a bastard. And yes, bastards are the genetic downfall of civilization and this should be harshly condemned. I love the Old Testament which gets everything right, in contrast to degenerate modern western culture that gets everything wrong (from a scientific and historical viewpoint).
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Post by Elizabeth on Aug 3, 2019 7:44:59 GMT
The Bible has not been revised for 1000 times. We have copies of scripture from ancient days. It's called the dead sea scrolls. It says the same thing that the modern Bible says. so king james fucked all his queens rather than publishing the revised version for dead beats like u Please stop the insults or first I'll remove you from the religious section permanently before you get reported for another ban. Thanks.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Aug 3, 2019 21:06:23 GMT
The Bible has not been revised for 1000 times. We have copies of scripture from ancient days. It's called the dead sea scrolls. It says the same thing that the modern Bible says. so king james fucked all his queens rather than publishing the revised version for dead beats like u The Revised Version of the Bible is a Catholic bible. If you compare the KJV with the RV, specifically the NT, you will find that there are many changes that make the Bible inconsistent with itself. The RV was created by Brooke Foss Westcott and Fenton John Anthony Hort, who made their own version of "The New Testament in the Original Greek" which is based on the manuscripts Vaticanus and Sinaiticus aka the Alexandrian texts. These two manuscripts differ substantially from the text of 95% of NT manuscripts which is numbered at about 5000. And not only do they differ from the bulk of other manuscripts, they differ from each other over 3000 times in just the 4 gospels alone. Vaticanus's history is a mystery, as it's origins are unknown and simply appeared in the Vatican in 1475 after being written by three scribes. Vaticanus omits Mark 16:9-20, which tells us of how Jesus appeared to Mary Magdalene who then went to His disciples and told them she had seen Him, as well as how He later appeared to two of his disciples, how He appeared to all eleven of His disciples while they ate to which he told to go and preach to the world, and how He ascended into heaven. Without this passage in the Bible, it creates doubt of His resurrection. So, whoever wrote Vaticanus had an agenda, perhaps and Arian or Gnostic agenda to produce doubt. Sinaiticus was found by Constantine Tischendorf in a trash can with rubbish waiting to be burned at Greek Orthodox Monastery of St. Catherine, probably where it belonged as it also omits Mark 16:9-20. The manuscript was heavily edited by at least ten revisers between the 4th and 12th centuries; letters and words, even whole sentences, are frequently written twice over, or begun and immediately canceled. No other early manuscript has been so extensively edited ranging from the alteration of a single letter to the insertion of whole sentences. Here is an example of Sinaiticus, It looks more like a rough draft, and not an actual manuscript, which looks something like this,
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Aug 4, 2019 1:16:41 GMT
The Bible has not been revised for 1000 times. We have copies of scripture from ancient days. It's called the dead sea scrolls. It says the same thing that the modern Bible says. so king james fucked all his queens rather than publishing the revised version for dead beats like u King James. What does he have to do with anything? He only translated the most popular English Bible. There are other English Bible's, some translated straight from the original Hebrew and the original Greek from the New Testament. There are Bibles in many other languages as well, since y'know, most of the world doesn't speak Enlish as their first language. They say the same things the KJV does and the original Hebrew and Greek Bible. It's not a mystery what the Bible says and whether its been revised. We have scripture from ancient Israel dated from the last three centuries BC to the 1st century AD, they are the dead sea scrolls and they say what the Bible says today showing that the Bible has stayed the same for over 2,000 years at least. The time between when the last Old Testament book was written and the coming of Jesus Christ was about 400 years.
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Post by Elizabeth on Aug 5, 2019 22:01:12 GMT
For wrath killeth the foolish man, and envy slayeth the silly one. Job 5:2
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Aug 8, 2019 18:03:36 GMT
Brothers and sisters, if someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore that person gently. But watch yourselves, or you also may be tempted. Carry each other’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ. If anyone thinks they are something when they are not, they deceive themselves.
Galatians 6: 1-3
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Post by Elizabeth on Aug 10, 2019 1:40:31 GMT
Scriptures For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope. Romans 15:4
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Post by Elizabeth on Aug 10, 2019 18:26:33 GMT
Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves. Philippians 2:3
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Post by Elizabeth on Aug 12, 2019 4:26:42 GMT
Furthermore then we beseech you, brethren, and exhort you by the Lord Jesus, that as ye have received of us how ye ought to walk and to please God, so ye would abound more and more. 1 Thessalonians 4:1
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Post by Elizabeth on Aug 17, 2019 3:34:23 GMT
Behold, I know your thoughts, and the devices which ye wrongfully imagine against me. Job 21:27
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Post by fashtag on Aug 18, 2019 21:02:24 GMT
This one: www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/gills-exposition-of-the-bible/1-corinthians-1-21.htmlIt deals with the nature of "worldly wisdom" vs god's truth. This really struck me a someone who was an atheist his entire adult life. It played a large role in bringing me in. The idea that we would hold god to a clearly failed "worldly logic" is absurd. God will not come to us on our terms. God is not a scientific fact, able to be verified via measurements or arrived to via mathematics. We can't reason our way to god, it comes from something deeper and more true than human reasoning. What purpose would it serve if even evil people could not deny god? If god were a scientific fact, all people would "worship" out of pure self-interest. My take is that anyone in the church is savable while those who can;t even bring themselves to give god a chance are lost. Sometimes it's just not in them and they can't will themselves saved. Some people don't have it in their nature or they are just not there yet on their journey.
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Post by Elizabeth on Aug 18, 2019 22:29:12 GMT
This one: www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/gills-exposition-of-the-bible/1-corinthians-1-21.htmlIt deals with the nature of "worldly wisdom" vs god's truth. This really struck me a someone who was an atheist his entire adult life. It played a large role in bringing me in. The idea that we would hold god to a clearly failed "worldly logic" is absurd. God will not come to us on our terms. God is not a scientific fact, able to be verified via measurements or arrived to via mathematics. We can't reason our way to god, it comes from something deeper and more true than human reasoning. What purpose would it serve if even evil people could not deny god? If god were a scientific fact, all people would "worship" out of pure self-interest. My take is that anyone in the church is savable while those who can;t even bring themselves to give god a chance are lost. Sometimes it's just not in them and they can't will themselves saved. Some people don't have it in their nature or they are just not there yet on their journey. So this verse made you not be an atheist anymore?
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Post by Elizabeth on Aug 20, 2019 5:55:05 GMT
Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the LORD understand all things. Proverbs 28:5
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Post by fashtag on Aug 21, 2019 2:16:47 GMT
This one: www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/gills-exposition-of-the-bible/1-corinthians-1-21.htmlIt deals with the nature of "worldly wisdom" vs god's truth. This really struck me a someone who was an atheist his entire adult life. It played a large role in bringing me in. The idea that we would hold god to a clearly failed "worldly logic" is absurd. God will not come to us on our terms. God is not a scientific fact, able to be verified via measurements or arrived to via mathematics. We can't reason our way to god, it comes from something deeper and more true than human reasoning. What purpose would it serve if even evil people could not deny god? If god were a scientific fact, all people would "worship" out of pure self-interest. My take is that anyone in the church is savable while those who can;t even bring themselves to give god a chance are lost. Sometimes it's just not in them and they can't will themselves saved. Some people don't have it in their nature or they are just not there yet on their journey. So this verse made you not be an atheist anymore? A few things and people came together at once to show me the error of my ways. Some need for scientific evidence of the supernatural was always a serious hang up for me. This changed the way I viewed that issue, which was HUGE. Yes, this is part of the reason I'm no longer an atheist.
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