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Post by Mortimer on Oct 30, 2017 3:55:28 GMT
I have many, but one is in my signature.
Another one
If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha. 1 Corinthians 16:22
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jan 24, 2019 21:29:56 GMT
If he were reading the Bible literally(and following it), he would not lean on his own understanding as the Bible literally says "lean not on thine own understanding". Yet, he is leaning on his own intuition and calling his own intuition "God". I could sit here and do the same as he is, but I dare not because I do not think I am any more special than the next man as I have sinned just as all men have sinned. I won't puff myself up above everyone else, call myself "God's only prophet in all of history", and when caught in contradiction turn to accusations against those who caught the contradictions. This is the mentality of someone who thinks they are infallible, that they are always right. I will give him credit though, he did admit to his mistake in his math equation, but only after being shown by 2 different people 3 different times that his math was wrong and while being wrong accused those of correcting him of being confused and deceived; one cannot argue with mathematics, but one can argue with language and definitions of words and phrases because language changes over time, yet I digress. I read it under the direction of God. See you are confused! I read it with God helping me literally so you understands better why it is a fall. Than I have to put up with Devils trying to steer me the wrong way. Like they have you. Only I am aware because we talk. Telepathically. Yeah and when we did get it to the rite place I was quick to admit my fault. I even stopped to thank you all for the help. But at the end of all that I WAS STILL RIGHT!!!!!! Only the number was lower. but a 3000 mile long arc? BS and the math proves a cubit in that book is 10.42 miles! a fact you refuse to admit proves there are lies with in those pages. All the belief and prayer and convictions in your faith will not change that visible proof! You still remain marked in the beast. Everyone makes a mistake your ready to cast out all the proof I have given just so you wont be wrong. You reach to ridiculous arguments to try and get that done. This is one of them. You do fight for devils and think to champion for God. But any one with common sense that reads what I teach and argue with you about proves you wrong. Every tine. A math mistake that still lead to the same overall conclusion when corrected and is not the highlight of blindness you try to make it. You a a ridiculous little man with a head full of lies. So deep you lie to yourself to try and keep them as right in your mind. But you are just wrong. Marked in the beast remains in your hand and upon your forehead. In Closing God said I was Judged AND CHOSEN AND IT IS NOT ON MY OWN INTUITION YOU JUST THINK IT IS. GOD TAUGHT ME WHY THESE LAWS ARE IN FACT UNHOLY AND MISLEADING! YOU IGNORE HIS LESSON TO ME IN BLIND IGNORANCE IN FACT. I can say the same thing. I didn't read the Bible because I wanted to. I asked God with all sincerity of my heart to show me the truth and He brought me to the Bible over and over. So, what now? Are you going to make this a silly child's competition of who can make themselves seem more legitimate to get the attention of the people on this forum? I'm not interested. The only reason I respond to you is because you keep butting into my conversations with other people even when they have nothing to do with you and because I value the truth above all things. You see, I do not believe you are a prophet of God, because the Bible says there will be no more prophets. You are just another Muhammad, someone who heard voices in his head and came to the conclusion that it must be God. I know someone personally who hears a voice in their head, science calls it a psychosis, I call it demon possession. This person I know got this from doing drugs, and I understand you also do drugs as you have admitted on this forum. The funny thing about this is even after being wrong and calling those who were correct confused and deceived, when it was you who was confused and deceived, shows you are not sure of what you are preaching and even at the end of it all you still think you were right when you created some obscure way of calculating a cubit when we already know the measurement of a cubit via archeology. What is even more funny is you accept and use what man says is the measurement of a furlong to "figure out" the measurement of a cubit, but you won't accept what man says is the measurement of a cubit that is called a double standard. The Bible doesn't give the measurement of a cubit or a furlong in inches, feet, yards, or miles because none of those measurements existed in the time the Bible was written, but you refuse to see your error in your grandiosity. These are all grandiose statements in order to make yourself seem and feel right because your reputation is on the line as a self-proclaimed prophet of "God". You have not proven anything except for your poor mathematical skills, your inability to logically comprehend the contradictions in your own beliefs/theories which you call truth and of God, your poor reading comprehension skills, and that when someone shows you that you are wrong and in contradiction you accuse them of being confused, deceived, a spreader of evil, a follower of evil, ignorant, a fool, a liar, blind, etc. because it damages your reputation. You see, I am not here to make myself believed and loved of men. I don't care what others think of me. My reputation among men isn't important to me, but to God it is. So I show people how they are wrong because I don't want them to be wrong and walk off the cliff. Does that mean I am always right? No, not at all. I make mistakes just like you did with your math, I know I am not perfect. Once one admits they aren't perfect, they humble themselves. You speak of yourself, besides the mark of the beast comment which subject you do not understand. Of course I think it is your own intuition, what you preach only comes from you, and to that you will say "It comes from God", well then you are otherwise saying that you are God. There is no way around this. So every time you say "God told me", you are saying "I told me". Who would have thought that "Thou shall not kill" is unholy, and "Thou shall not steal" is unholy, and "Thou shall not bear false witness" is unholy, and "Thou shall not commit adultery" is unholy, etc. What you are expounding here is not a lesson at all, it is only your own opinion which you call of God which is in reality of yourself. I will have you know what you teach about Jesus is very similar to what the Jews teach about Jesus in their Talmud. I wonder if that is where you got your dogma from, a book with the commentaries of rabbis who hate Jesus and blaspheme His name as you do. It would not at all surprise me if it is the origin of your dogma against Him.
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Post by prophettom on Jan 24, 2019 22:17:01 GMT
I read it under the direction of God. See you are confused! I read it with God helping me literally so you understands better why it is a fall. Than I have to put up with Devils trying to steer me the wrong way. Like they have you. Only I am aware because we talk. Telepathically. Yeah and when we did get it to the rite place I was quick to admit my fault. I even stopped to thank you all for the help. But at the end of all that I WAS STILL RIGHT!!!!!! Only the number was lower. but a 3000 mile long arc? BS and the math proves a cubit in that book is 10.42 miles! a fact you refuse to admit proves there are lies with in those pages. All the belief and prayer and convictions in your faith will not change that visible proof! You still remain marked in the beast. Everyone makes a mistake your ready to cast out all the proof I have given just so you wont be wrong. You reach to ridiculous arguments to try and get that done. This is one of them. You do fight for devils and think to champion for God. But any one with common sense that reads what I teach and argue with you about proves you wrong. Every tine. A math mistake that still lead to the same overall conclusion when corrected and is not the highlight of blindness you try to make it. You a a ridiculous little man with a head full of lies. So deep you lie to yourself to try and keep them as right in your mind. But you are just wrong. Marked in the beast remains in your hand and upon your forehead. In Closing God said I was Judged AND CHOSEN AND IT IS NOT ON MY OWN INTUITION YOU JUST THINK IT IS. GOD TAUGHT ME WHY THESE LAWS ARE IN FACT UNHOLY AND MISLEADING! YOU IGNORE HIS LESSON TO ME IN BLIND IGNORANCE IN FACT. I can say the same thing. I didn't read the Bible because I wanted to. I asked God with all sincerity of my heart to show me the truth and He brought me to the Bible over and over. So, what now? Are you going to make this a silly child's competition of who can make themselves seem more legitimate to get the attention of the people on this forum? I'm not interested. The only reason I respond to you is because you keep butting into my conversations with other people even when they have nothing to do with you and because I value the truth above all things. You see, I do not believe you are a prophet of God, because the Bible says there will be no more prophets. You are just another Muhammad, someone who heard voices in his head and came to the conclusion that it must be God. I know someone personally who hears a voice in their head, science calls it a psychosis, I call it demon possession. This person I know got this from doing drugs, and I understand you also do drugs as you have admitted on this forum. The funny thing about this is even after being wrong and calling those who were correct confused and deceived, when it was you who was confused and deceived, shows you are not sure of what you are preaching and even at the end of it all you still think you were right when you created some obscure way of calculating a cubit when we already know the measurement of a cubit via archeology. What is even more funny is you accept and use what man says is the measurement of a furlong to "figure out" the measurement of a cubit, but you won't accept what man says is the measurement of a cubit that is called a double standard. The Bible doesn't give the measurement of a cubit or a furlong in inches, feet, yards, or miles because none of those measurements existed in the time the Bible was written, but you refuse to see your error in your grandiosity. These are all grandiose statements in order to make yourself seem and feel right because your reputation is on the line as a self-proclaimed prophet of "God". You have not proven anything except for your poor mathematical skills, your inability to logically comprehend the contradictions in your own beliefs/theories which you call truth and of God, your poor reading comprehension skills, and that when someone shows you that you are wrong and in contradiction you accuse them of being confused, deceived, a spreader of evil, a follower of evil, ignorant, a fool, a liar, blind, etc. because it damages your reputation. You see, I am not here to make myself believed and loved of men. I don't care what others think of me. My reputation among men isn't important to me, but to God it is. So I show people how they are wrong because I don't want them to be wrong and walk off the cliff. Does that mean I am always right? No, not at all. I make mistakes just like you did with your math, I know I am not perfect. Once one admits they aren't perfect, they humble themselves. You speak of yourself, besides the mark of the beast comment which subject you do not understand. Of course I think it is your own intuition, what you preach only comes from you, and to that you will say "It comes from God", well then you are otherwise saying that you are God. There is no way around this. So every time you say "God told me", you are saying "I told me". Who would have thought that "Thou shall not kill" is unholy, and "Thou shall not steal" is unholy, and "Thou shall not bear false witness" is unholy, and "Thou shall not commit adultery" is unholy, etc. What you are expounding here is not a lesson at all, it is only your own opinion which you call of God which is in reality of yourself. I will have you know what you teach about Jesus is very similar to what the Jews teach about Jesus in their Talmud. I wonder if that is where you got your dogma from, a book with the commentaries of rabbis who hate Jesus and blaspheme His name as you do. It would not at all surprise me if it is the origin of your dogma against Him. Here is your problem. All the things I posted of late were posted in reverse order so they could be read in proper order. Until you see why that law is the law of false peace you will never see why that was the fall Of Moses and Jesus Christ. How that all lead to him being the false messiah. Giving you laws of false peace. You have to have that to understand revelations. You can make these arguments until you are blue in the face. Nothing will change the fact that they are fallen and he is a false Messiah.
You refuse to believe that the whore of revelations and Her Brothers give you exactly the things you describe to make certain you stay fallen while you think you are not. That is all they do. All this talk about how you were moved in the spirit and that you are protected from their influence through your beliefs in these things ARE LIES! Always have been always will be. Despite the prophets before me as far back as Enoch that I have read about all fell for the same deceits. You are just going to have to over come that on your own. Or make a selfless sacrifice. Even than you will need to master your fear of hell to see it. Your idea of what heaven will be like under those laws and rules are not at all true peace for anyone. They are dangerous and deadly. Full of special favor for the privileged or favored.
You are wrong you are empowered in your convictions by the power of Devils. All you want to do is say it is not possible but it is a fact. After I was judged and chosen they started in on trying to deceive me in less than 5 minutes after. I had no clue what was going on. Here I am 6 years later under exposure and you think I am the blind fool. Your pride and ignorance in the matter have you fallen marked in the beast still.
Like I said I wont argue with you any more. I will simply state the truth. You are as I have said still. Only you can change it.
I got what I know from God. Lastly those things you point to that are holy in that law are negated by the judgments given with them. It then goes on to say to kill in the judgments. So which one is it? I say thou shall not kill and you spin what you want for a conclusion over using the entirety of what i reveal to see the truth. You are false news.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jan 24, 2019 23:45:08 GMT
I can say the same thing. I didn't read the Bible because I wanted to. I asked God with all sincerity of my heart to show me the truth and He brought me to the Bible over and over. So, what now? Are you going to make this a silly child's competition of who can make themselves seem more legitimate to get the attention of the people on this forum? I'm not interested. The only reason I respond to you is because you keep butting into my conversations with other people even when they have nothing to do with you and because I value the truth above all things. You see, I do not believe you are a prophet of God, because the Bible says there will be no more prophets. You are just another Muhammad, someone who heard voices in his head and came to the conclusion that it must be God. I know someone personally who hears a voice in their head, science calls it a psychosis, I call it demon possession. This person I know got this from doing drugs, and I understand you also do drugs as you have admitted on this forum. The funny thing about this is even after being wrong and calling those who were correct confused and deceived, when it was you who was confused and deceived, shows you are not sure of what you are preaching and even at the end of it all you still think you were right when you created some obscure way of calculating a cubit when we already know the measurement of a cubit via archeology. What is even more funny is you accept and use what man says is the measurement of a furlong to "figure out" the measurement of a cubit, but you won't accept what man says is the measurement of a cubit that is called a double standard. The Bible doesn't give the measurement of a cubit or a furlong in inches, feet, yards, or miles because none of those measurements existed in the time the Bible was written, but you refuse to see your error in your grandiosity. These are all grandiose statements in order to make yourself seem and feel right because your reputation is on the line as a self-proclaimed prophet of "God". You have not proven anything except for your poor mathematical skills, your inability to logically comprehend the contradictions in your own beliefs/theories which you call truth and of God, your poor reading comprehension skills, and that when someone shows you that you are wrong and in contradiction you accuse them of being confused, deceived, a spreader of evil, a follower of evil, ignorant, a fool, a liar, blind, etc. because it damages your reputation. You see, I am not here to make myself believed and loved of men. I don't care what others think of me. My reputation among men isn't important to me, but to God it is. So I show people how they are wrong because I don't want them to be wrong and walk off the cliff. Does that mean I am always right? No, not at all. I make mistakes just like you did with your math, I know I am not perfect. Once one admits they aren't perfect, they humble themselves. You speak of yourself, besides the mark of the beast comment which subject you do not understand. Of course I think it is your own intuition, what you preach only comes from you, and to that you will say "It comes from God", well then you are otherwise saying that you are God. There is no way around this. So every time you say "God told me", you are saying "I told me". Who would have thought that "Thou shall not kill" is unholy, and "Thou shall not steal" is unholy, and "Thou shall not bear false witness" is unholy, and "Thou shall not commit adultery" is unholy, etc. What you are expounding here is not a lesson at all, it is only your own opinion which you call of God which is in reality of yourself. I will have you know what you teach about Jesus is very similar to what the Jews teach about Jesus in their Talmud. I wonder if that is where you got your dogma from, a book with the commentaries of rabbis who hate Jesus and blaspheme His name as you do. It would not at all surprise me if it is the origin of your dogma against Him. Here is your problem. All the things I posted of late were posted in reverse order so they could be read in proper order. Until you see why that law is the law of false peace you will never see why that was the fall Of Moses and Jesus Christ. How that all lead to him being the false messiah. Giving you laws of false peace. You have to have that to understand revelations. You can make these arguments until you are blue in the face. Nothing will change the fact that they are fallen and he is a false Messiah.
You refuse to believe that the whore of revelations and Her Brothers give you exactly the things you describe to make certain you stay fallen while you think you are not. That is all they do. All this talk about how you were moved in the spirit and that you are protected from their influence through your beliefs in these things ARE LIES! Always have been always will be. Despite the prophets before me as far back as Enoch that I have read about all fell for the same deceits. You are just going to have to over come that on your own. Or make a selfless sacrifice. Even than you will need to master your fear of hell to see it. Your idea of what heaven will be like under those laws and rules are not at all true peace for anyone. They are dangerous and deadly. Full of special favor for the privileged or favored.
You are wrong you are empowered in your convictions by the power of Devils. All you want to do is say it is not possible but it is a fact. After I was judged and chosen they started in on trying to deceive me in less than 5 minutes after. I had no clue what was going on. Here I am 6 years later under exposure and you think I am the blind fool. Your pride and ignorance in the matter have you fallen marked in the beast still.
Like I said I wont argue with you any more. I will simply state the truth. You are as I have said still. Only you can change it.
I got what I know from God. Lastly those things you point to that are holy in that law are negated by the judgments given with them. It then goes on to say to kill in the judgments. So which one is it? I say thou shall not kill and you spin what you want for a conclusion over using the entirety of what i reveal to see the truth. You are false news.
This is what you said but simplified(with my interjections of reality in these parentheses), "Everything I say is a fact(even though I have been wrong in the past)(as I am the one and only pontificator). Believe me(even though I make mistakes in what I preach), follow me(even though I am a fallible man), you are believing in lies(even though this is just my opinion), you have the mark of the beast(even though I do not understand what the mark of the beast is for), I know everything(even though I don't), the law isn't peaceful(even though it commands us to be peaceful), you are wrong(even though I have been wrong), you empower devils(even though I walk and talk with them), I have all the facts(even if I make them all up), you are supposed to believe me when I tell you I am the only prophet in the history of the world(even though I am just another cult leader), I only state the truth(even though I make up my own truths), what I know is from God(the God of my own mind), you're prideful and arrogant(even though I was too prideful and arrogant to the point of accusing others of being deceived and confused when I was confused and deceived by the God of my own mind telling me I am chosen so I must always be right even though I am not). A false god. This shows clearly that you do not understand the concept of God at all. God's judgments are all righteous and true. His law is that if you break His law, you are put to death(in most cases) because to break His law(to disobey Him) is to sin and sin is death. The law is not negated by the judgments God gives, that is preposterous, and it is preposterous because God created everything; He created you, me, and everyone else, and everything else. He is the owner of it all as He created it all. So, if He being the owner and creator of all and all things, decides that you need to die because you sinned against His law then it is a righteous judgment by God. He owns you, He can do whatever it is He wants with His creation. And He is not bound to the rules, limitations, laws, etc. that gives His creation to obey. In other words, He does not have to obey His own laws as He is not bound to them. He didn't create His laws for Him to obey, He is already perfect. You don't understand this, and that is your folly. You can continue calling me this and that or whatever it is you think I am, I've accepted that I will be scrutinized and/or worse for what I believe, it doesn't bother me. As for you, you must continue to protect your reputation and attack the people who find contradictions and holes in your beliefs. This much is obvious.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jan 25, 2019 4:08:00 GMT
Romans 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jan 25, 2019 4:13:04 GMT
Hebrews 2:8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.
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Post by prophettom on Jan 25, 2019 4:30:20 GMT
Here is your problem. All the things I posted of late were posted in reverse order so they could be read in proper order. Until you see why that law is the law of false peace you will never see why that was the fall Of Moses and Jesus Christ. How that all lead to him being the false messiah. Giving you laws of false peace. You have to have that to understand revelations. You can make these arguments until you are blue in the face. Nothing will change the fact that they are fallen and he is a false Messiah.
You refuse to believe that the whore of revelations and Her Brothers give you exactly the things you describe to make certain you stay fallen while you think you are not. That is all they do. All this talk about how you were moved in the spirit and that you are protected from their influence through your beliefs in these things ARE LIES! Always have been always will be. Despite the prophets before me as far back as Enoch that I have read about all fell for the same deceits. You are just going to have to over come that on your own. Or make a selfless sacrifice. Even than you will need to master your fear of hell to see it. Your idea of what heaven will be like under those laws and rules are not at all true peace for anyone. They are dangerous and deadly. Full of special favor for the privileged or favored.
You are wrong you are empowered in your convictions by the power of Devils. All you want to do is say it is not possible but it is a fact. After I was judged and chosen they started in on trying to deceive me in less than 5 minutes after. I had no clue what was going on. Here I am 6 years later under exposure and you think I am the blind fool. Your pride and ignorance in the matter have you fallen marked in the beast still.
Like I said I wont argue with you any more. I will simply state the truth. You are as I have said still. Only you can change it.
I got what I know from God. Lastly those things you point to that are holy in that law are negated by the judgments given with them. It then goes on to say to kill in the judgments. So which one is it? I say thou shall not kill and you spin what you want for a conclusion over using the entirety of what i reveal to see the truth. You are false news.
This is what you said but simplified(with my interjections of reality in these parentheses), "Everything I say is a fact(even though I have been wrong in the past)(as I am the one and only pontificator). Believe me(even though I make mistakes in what I preach), follow me(even though I am a fallible man), you are believing in lies(even though this is just my opinion), you have the mark of the beast(even though I do not understand what the mark of the beast is for), I know everything(even though I don't), the law isn't peaceful(even though it commands us to be peaceful), you are wrong(even though I have been wrong), you empower devils(even though I walk and talk with them), I have all the facts(even if I make them all up), you are supposed to believe me when I tell you I am the only prophet in the history of the world(even though I am just another cult leader), I only state the truth(even though I make up my own truths), what I know is from God(the God of my own mind), you're prideful and arrogant(even though I was too prideful and arrogant to the point of accusing others of being deceived and confused when I was confused and deceived by the God of my own mind telling me I am chosen so I must always be right even though I am not). A false god. This shows clearly that you do not understand the concept of God at all. God's judgments are all righteous and true. His law is that if you break His law, you are put to death(in most cases) because to break His law(to disobey Him) is to sin and sin is death. The law is not negated by the judgments God gives, that is preposterous, and it is preposterous because God created everything; He created you, me, and everyone else, and everything else. He is the owner of it all as He created it all. So, if He being the owner and creator of all and all things, decides that you need to die because you sinned against His law then it is a righteous judgment by God. He owns you, He can do whatever it is He wants with His creation. And He is not bound to the rules, limitations, laws, etc. that gives His creation to obey. In other words, He does not have to obey His own laws as He is not bound to them. He didn't create His laws for Him to obey, He is already perfect. You don't understand this, and that is your folly. You can continue calling me this and that or whatever it is you think I am, I've accepted that I will be scrutinized and/or worse for what I believe, it doesn't bother me. As for you, you must continue to protect your reputation and attack the people who find contradictions and holes in your beliefs. This much is obvious. Well you are right. Gods judgments are righteous and true. To bad you cant see those are not them. For devils live. Point 1. and Satan gave those judgments to Aron. As well as he gave those Laws to Moses. to bad you cant see a maid servant and a manservant are slaves. And in that judgment they are less than their master. Only the man can free himself so long as he can stay alive the first seven years. So long as the master don't strike him dead on a trip so no one notices. You god damn fool. Jesus taught that as righteous and holy. But you know damn well it is not. Connect the dots~!
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jan 25, 2019 5:49:20 GMT
This is what you said but simplified(with my interjections of reality in these parentheses), "Everything I say is a fact(even though I have been wrong in the past)(as I am the one and only pontificator). Believe me(even though I make mistakes in what I preach), follow me(even though I am a fallible man), you are believing in lies(even though this is just my opinion), you have the mark of the beast(even though I do not understand what the mark of the beast is for), I know everything(even though I don't), the law isn't peaceful(even though it commands us to be peaceful), you are wrong(even though I have been wrong), you empower devils(even though I walk and talk with them), I have all the facts(even if I make them all up), you are supposed to believe me when I tell you I am the only prophet in the history of the world(even though I am just another cult leader), I only state the truth(even though I make up my own truths), what I know is from God(the God of my own mind), you're prideful and arrogant(even though I was too prideful and arrogant to the point of accusing others of being deceived and confused when I was confused and deceived by the God of my own mind telling me I am chosen so I must always be right even though I am not). A false god. This shows clearly that you do not understand the concept of God at all. God's judgments are all righteous and true. His law is that if you break His law, you are put to death(in most cases) because to break His law(to disobey Him) is to sin and sin is death. The law is not negated by the judgments God gives, that is preposterous, and it is preposterous because God created everything; He created you, me, and everyone else, and everything else. He is the owner of it all as He created it all. So, if He being the owner and creator of all and all things, decides that you need to die because you sinned against His law then it is a righteous judgment by God. He owns you, He can do whatever it is He wants with His creation. And He is not bound to the rules, limitations, laws, etc. that gives His creation to obey. In other words, He does not have to obey His own laws as He is not bound to them. He didn't create His laws for Him to obey, He is already perfect. You don't understand this, and that is your folly. You can continue calling me this and that or whatever it is you think I am, I've accepted that I will be scrutinized and/or worse for what I believe, it doesn't bother me. As for you, you must continue to protect your reputation and attack the people who find contradictions and holes in your beliefs. This much is obvious. Well you are right. Gods judgments are righteous and true. To bad you cant see those are not them. For devils live. Point 1. and Satan gave those judgments to Aron. As well as he gave those Laws to Moses. to bad you cant see a maid servant and a manservant are slaves. And in that judgment they are less than their master. Only the man can free himself so long as he can stay alive the first seven years. So long as the master don't strike him dead on a trip so no one notices. You god damn fool. Jesus taught that as righteous and holy. But you know damn well it is not. Connect the dots~!
I never said they weren't slaves you really like the straw man don't you. Less in the eyes of God? No, absolutely not. God gives ordinances to protect slaves, so much that it would deter people from wanting to own slaves at all. But you cannot see that. You see what you want to. You say it like it is a difficult thing to do. God is protecting the slaves with the ordinances He gives to slave owners, punishing them if they excessively beat or kill their slaves. You also seem to be forgetting. or perhaps just flat out ignoring, the fact that a slave in those times was only punished for committing crimes, just like everyone else in those times. You seem to be stuck on slavery as it is known in American history and how brutal slave owners were to their slaves, which quite obviously God does not condone at all given the ordinances in Exodus 21. So no one notices? You seem to not understand what Exodus 21:20-21 is saying, look, 20 Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property. Do you understand what this is saying? What are you talking about that "no one notices"?
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Post by Elizabeth on Jan 25, 2019 6:01:31 GMT
I didn't read the jibberish but sounds like you two could meet for coffee and continue on until one gives up. And even better is you two are from the same US state. Just my educated guess.
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Post by prophettom on Jan 25, 2019 10:34:02 GMT
Well you are right. Gods judgments are righteous and true. To bad you cant see those are not them. For devils live. Point 1. and Satan gave those judgments to Aron. As well as he gave those Laws to Moses. to bad you cant see a maid servant and a manservant are slaves. And in that judgment they are less than their master. Only the man can free himself so long as he can stay alive the first seven years. So long as the master don't strike him dead on a trip so no one notices. You god damn fool. Jesus taught that as righteous and holy. But you know damn well it is not. Connect the dots~!
I never said they weren't slaves you really like the straw man don't you. Less in the eyes of God? No, absolutely not. God gives ordinances to protect slaves, so much that it would deter people from wanting to own slaves at all. But you cannot see that. You see what you want to. You say it like it is a difficult thing to do. God is protecting the slaves with the ordinances He gives to slave owners, punishing them if they excessively beat or kill their slaves. You also seem to be forgetting. or perhaps just flat out ignoring, the fact that a slave in those times was only punished for committing crimes, just like everyone else in those times. You seem to be stuck on slavery as it is known in American history and how brutal slave owners were to their slaves, which quite obviously God does not condone at all given the ordinances in Exodus 21. So no one notices? You seem to not understand what Exodus 21:20-21 is saying, look, 20 Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property. Do you understand what this is saying? What are you talking about that "no one notices"? And he actually thinks he understands over Gods Prophet Look folks that's how dumb he is. Good news buddy I don't think God DAMNS THE MENTALLY CHALLENGED!! NEVER MIND YOU COMPLETELY MISS THE POINT THAT SLAVERY IS EVIL! NO ONE WANTS TO BE A SLAVE! BREAKING THE GOLDEN RULE~!
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Post by prophettom on Jan 25, 2019 20:05:25 GMT
I never said they weren't slaves you really like the straw man don't you. Less in the eyes of God? No, absolutely not. God gives ordinances to protect slaves, so much that it would deter people from wanting to own slaves at all. But you cannot see that. You see what you want to. You say it like it is a difficult thing to do. God is protecting the slaves with the ordinances He gives to slave owners, punishing them if they excessively beat or kill their slaves. You also seem to be forgetting. or perhaps just flat out ignoring, the fact that a slave in those times was only punished for committing crimes, just like everyone else in those times. You seem to be stuck on slavery as it is known in American history and how brutal slave owners were to their slaves, which quite obviously God does not condone at all given the ordinances in Exodus 21. So no one notices? You seem to not understand what Exodus 21:20-21 is saying, look, 20 Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property. Do you understand what this is saying? What are you talking about that "no one notices"? And he actually thinks he understands over Gods Prophet Look folks that's how dumb he is. Good news buddy I don't think God DAMNS THE MENTALLY CHALLENGED!! NEVER MIND YOU COMPLETELY MISS THE POINT THAT SLAVERY IS EVIL! NO ONE WANTS TO BE A SLAVE! BREAKING THE GOLDEN RULE! If you think slavery is to be found in Gods law. Than you expect for your heaven to be the hell to the slaves! No one wants to be a eternal slave. So it is not found in heaven. Nor do you need a law empowering slavery. The laws addressing how to handle your slaves is in fact empowering slavery. BECAUSE THEY LET PEOPLE HAVE THEM AND GIVE THEM A GUIDELINE HOW THOSE SLAVES AND MASTERS ARE TO BE HANDLED!
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Post by Elizabeth on Jan 27, 2019 6:51:38 GMT
Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise. Proverbs 20:1
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jan 27, 2019 7:25:59 GMT
Jude 17-19 17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; 18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts. 19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
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Post by Elizabeth on Jan 28, 2019 23:53:45 GMT
Acts 4:12
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
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Post by Elizabeth on Jan 31, 2019 7:30:51 GMT
Love everyone in a brotherly love.
Luke 6:35
But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
Romans 12:9-10 Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good. Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another
Hebrews 13:1-2 Let brotherly love continue. Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
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Post by Elizabeth on Feb 14, 2019 6:30:12 GMT
Titus 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world
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