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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Jan 5, 2019 1:28:40 GMT
Imagine that there's no-God. It's a substance, or a deity that similar to God, but he's definitely not a God at all. And every time when one says "there's no God" his claim has a meaning "there's no-God'. So, if you want to say that "there's no God" be careful, because "there might be no-God".
Who or what is no-God? Your propositions?
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Post by Elizabeth on May 1, 2019 13:07:55 GMT
Does the Bible not say we are all Gods? Iouco have you been pruned? Queen Elizabeth God is only intangible because of how you have taught, wrongly it seems. No, the bible doesn't say we are all gods. It uses it only as a simile or comparison in one case only. God has the knowledge of good and evil so when we humans got that knowlege we became like God in that sense of knowledge only because we know good and evil now too when at first we only knew good. Bible says God is intangible. I don't listen to humans. They don't read God's word so make up stuff only.
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Post by Elizabeth on May 1, 2019 14:30:58 GMT
So your saying that Eve followed by Adam did not eat the apple? If God knows good from evil then so does the devil. I don't "make up stuff", I am merely trying to make you make sense of what is wrote. I didn't realize we were talking about Adam and Eve. But the serpent told Eve she will be like God if she ate the fruit. Like being simile so not actually God but more like Him in other ways, in this case the knowlege of good and evil. So yeah at this point God and devil and angels and demons know good and evil but God and angels do only good while devil and demons don't. Humans as of that point only knew good. Serpent tricked us and made us know evil so now we must try harder to get to heaven because both good and evil are present. And God told us since we are like Him in this knowlege to start discerning good from evil of we want ro return to Him by following only good again. This is what bible says...nothing that I wrote.
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Post by Elizabeth on May 1, 2019 17:25:37 GMT
Do you actually believe that Adam and Eve existed? Take a look at a physics book usually in the beginning of said book starts with a lesson in the Atom, and how the Electron is taken from the shell of the Atom, then the Elctron then gives rise to the finding of the Cation and the Anion, or the Cathode and the Anode. Do you see the pattern? The quantity of electric is stated in electron volts or eve The movement of electric from a battery travels from the negative terminal or Cathode to the positive terminal or Anode Of course they existed. Take a look into the science section here where a science article states we all came from one man and one female and that animals came to existence at that time too. Sounded like they spoke of Genesis
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on May 1, 2019 18:08:35 GMT
Does the Bible not say we are all Gods? Iouco have you been pruned? Queen Elizabeth God is only intangible because of how you have taught, wrongly it seems. What said in Bible =/= it is pure truth. Bible says: "I hadn't brought a peace, but a sword to ya'll". In other places we can read that Christ took weeps and beat sellers at a chapel's porch. It means, we shalt now take/aim what Bible says. God is not under the trust. [Do not believe what I've said, it is a joke ]
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Post by joustos on May 19, 2019 16:09:39 GMT
Does the Bible not say we are all Gods? Iouco have you been pruned? Queen Elizabeth God is only intangible because of how you have taught, wrongly it seems. No, the bible doesn't say we are all gods. It uses it only as a simile or comparison in one case only. God has the knowledge of good and evil so when we humans got that knowlege we became like God in that sense of knowledge only because we know good and evil now too when at first we only knew good. Bible says God is intangible. I don't listen to humans. They don't read God's word so make up stuff only.
I do not intend to close the discussion by the following, needed, remarks:
1. The Bible is God's word [true, infallible, etc.] only according to some human theologians, who have concoacted the many doctrines which are held by various religions (Judaic, Catholic, etc.), including the doctrine or idea that there is "God". Aside from classical German scholarship about studies of the Bible, I have just read about Mauro Biglino, who has translated many books of the Old Testament for the Vatican. (Many of his books are available on Amazon.) He found no word for "God" in the Hebrew texts, even though "Elohim" and "Yahveh" are usually translated as "God" in English, Italian, and other languages. I note: This started long ago with the translation of the Bible into Greek and the use of "(Ho) Theos" ["God"] to translate those Hebrew words. "Elohim" = literally "gods" which, I note, has different denotations in the Bible: (A) the Canaanite Supreme gods who, as in Genesis-1, fashioned Man in their own image: one male and one female, and (B) the gods of other peoples such as the Philistines, who must be killed and whose altars must be destroyed. I see that "Yahveh" is a more problematic word, even though is often replaced, in the Bible, by "Lord" (Hebr. Adonai), and Yahveh Elohim", the god of Moses, used to be translated or mistranslated in Latin as "Dominus Deus" , "the Lord God" in the English version. In Genesis-2, Yahveh fashioned Eve out of a rib removed from the man (Adam), who had been fashioned out of mud or clay. 2. In the Bible there is no doctrine of creation "out of nothing"; the divine operations are fashionings, like those of an architect or a sculptor, …. 3. Out of the commonplace Mideastern polytheism, some Hebrews (Abraham etc.) chose the Elohim or/and Yahveh as their protector and provider, whereby they became the Chosen People, to whom was promised the land from the Euphrates to the Nile. Kill every occupying man, woman, and child, said the Lord. (In the 20th century, an Israeli theologian wrote an article warning the Italians that those who are against the state of Israel are against God. That's logical, if the Bible is the word of a real God.) 4. What is No-God? How can there be anything other t han God??? The early Christian theologians identified God with "that which IS" and got into a big problem: How can there be a creature, "something which IS NOT?" Creating and Created became, for Irish theologian Eurigena, the defining words of Nature (that which is arising and perishing. All that IS is constantly in flux ("Panta rhei") Heracleitos has said long ago. Here are again at the beginnings of Greek philosophy.
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