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Post by kyloscythe91 on Dec 12, 2018 22:02:38 GMT
In saving others, do you think sometimes one can destroy oneself in terms of showing someone mercy after they attack you physically or psychologically? Perhaps do you guys think that person shown mercy to takes advantage and control the person who showed mercy to that defeated person? A lot of difficulties in this, no? What will remain after the defeated one is shown mercy? Hatred and revenge? Or thankfulness and friendship?
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Post by PISTON1246 on Dec 12, 2018 22:05:43 GMT
Save the innocent. Where is the innocence in someone who attacked you with no justice?
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Post by kyloscythe91 on Dec 12, 2018 22:14:11 GMT
Save the innocent. Where is the innocence in someone who attacked you with no justice? Then what would you do if they were put up to it by someone? Besides wouldn't they see things differently about you? Give you a chance too in ultimate pathway results? Maybe the defeated can help you with things?
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Post by PISTON1246 on Dec 12, 2018 22:38:44 GMT
If someone did something wrong because they were "put up to it by someone", then they are still wrong.
Do wrong. Get punished.
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Post by kyloscythe91 on Dec 12, 2018 22:49:12 GMT
If someone did something wrong because they were "put up to it by someone", then they are still wrong. Do wrong. Get punished. What if you walked their path once? Will you still have such judgements? Will you not consider at least understanding? What if it doesn't break the law?
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Post by PISTON1246 on Dec 12, 2018 23:14:51 GMT
Walked what path? Understand what? If what does not break the law?
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Post by kyloscythe91 on Dec 12, 2018 23:59:59 GMT
Walked what path? Understand what? If what does not break the law? Whatever path it may be...for example you defeated them in catching them in thievery but gave them a chance-like a kid who stole from you but show them mercy and instead of punishment, you take them in because they were simply hungry...or put up to it. Or like I said about the defeated being of use later on like getting the kid to wash the dishes instead. That you were once a hungry kid too and so you understand what they went through and the steps they'd have to have took to get to it. What if it doesn't break the law by people attacking you psychologically because someone is playing mind games with you like a boyfriend to a girlfriend but you forgive them on that front to make them see the errors in their ways of the relationship and in result the manipulator wants a second chance from regrets by like cheating on her or something feels sick seeing the truth in such things from the realm of knowledge is I guess something else to talk about.
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Post by PISTON1246 on Dec 13, 2018 0:30:47 GMT
You steal from me and you are a kid? I am talking to your parents about it.
Being hungry is not an excuse for taking other people's property without their permission.
Cheating?
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Post by kyloscythe91 on Dec 13, 2018 0:38:23 GMT
You steal from me and you are a kid? I am talking to your parents about it. Being hungry is not an excuse for taking other people's property without their permission. Cheating? I actually meant 'taking them in' as in they have no parents. Have you been so hungry before?...reach out with perceptions on that one. Being cheated on is still a 'defeat.' Mercy is not a weakness, no?
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Post by PISTON1246 on Dec 13, 2018 0:51:10 GMT
I am not adopting kids right now. If they need help they might know how to talk.
I ain't got no mercy for the man sleeping with my woman and my woman sleeping with him.
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Post by kyloscythe91 on Dec 13, 2018 1:37:21 GMT
Taking kids was just meant as an example. I didn't mean it literally.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2018 2:50:16 GMT
In saving others, do you think sometimes one can destroy oneself in terms of showing someone mercy after they attack you physically or psychologically? Perhaps do you guys think that person shown mercy to takes advantage and control the person who showed mercy to that defeated person? A lot of difficulties in this, no? What will remain after the defeated one is shown mercy? Hatred and revenge? Or thankfulness and friendship? Sometime suicide is a good thing and compassion is the only just way to accomplish it. For example the other day, Sunday to be specific, I ran into an old 69 year old man who barely had anything to eat, was homeless, suffered 3 strokes prior. He wanted 4 dollars for a sandwich. I gave him 40, even though I barely have any money because I live real simple. We spent some time talking about his prior music career, and then I drove him to a place where he could have some shelter. I then gave him my favorite leather coat I was wearing so he could stay warm and dry. He told me in 3 weeks noone ever showed him any level of kindness. A cop would not drive him to a homeless shelter. He loaded wood onto a truck for a little money, and home depot called the cops on him, as well as the driver driving off without giving him any money. The truth is the world is a cold and empty place and there is no mystery to it. Suicide is a viable option, but the only way to approach it is to be kind to others hoping one day it will kill you.
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Post by kyloscythe91 on Dec 13, 2018 4:09:27 GMT
No mystery to it? But we know so little, so little as a human race. Our knowledge continues to grow as a human race and so there is much that eludes our sight in each category of knowledge including ones we don't know about. Take historians for example, the more they study, the more questions arises for them. After such knowledge is obtained and curiousities peaked with all that collective knowledge into one realm of all knowledge, I at least feel we can deliberate ourselves to conclusions with full wisdom to at least a constant growing extent throughout time. Not unless you believe there's an all knowing being that exerts known knowledge from our race including aliens or even gods. For what if there are folds upon folds of infinities in knowledge or even raw power displays known to the realm of knowledge? This would be significant to consider perhaps? But running into walls of leading astray from true truth knowledge path trajectories and other angles of and things I'm sure of higher mysteries becoming masteries is possibly inevitable or not so I can so I can see your point in such currents in the universe. But if there really is no mystery to you in the world, the world sounds very bled out in a rather blinding way. Let's at least wish the true ways of the world does not define itself under the category of destruction to have a cold and dark world indeed. Do not mistake me though, I do not mean to put words in your mouth, just trying to express what i think I'm hearing from your post. But I guess I'm just saying if you say the world is as you said...it would hurt to see it that way...If you're right, I guess then we need to find gifts in our lives, hidden beneath the pain. If that's true, then at least we will endure and in it gives hope to me and others. But I believe everyone including me can be saved in true harmonious combinations in life. To help others is not a weakness and that it is strength to both the helper and the helped in no corrupted ways of any angle in life to me though. I guess I ask these kinds of questions sometimes because in these ideals I'm an all or nothing kind of guy.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2018 16:47:15 GMT
No mystery to it? But we know so little, so little as a human race. Our knowledge continues to grow as a human race and so there is much that eludes our sight in each category of knowledge including ones we don't know about. Take historians for example, the more they study, the more questions arises for them. After such knowledge is obtained and curiousities peaked with all that collective knowledge into one realm of all knowledge, I at least feel we can deliberate ourselves to conclusions with full wisdom to at least a constant growing extent throughout time. Not unless you believe there's an all knowing being that exerts known knowledge from our race including aliens or even gods. For what if there are folds upon folds of infinities in knowledge or even raw power displays known to the realm of knowledge? This would be significant to consider perhaps? But running into walls of leading astray from true truth knowledge path trajectories and other angles of and things I'm sure of higher mysteries becoming masteries is possibly inevitable or not so I can so I can see your point in such currents in the universe. But if there really is no mystery to you in the world, the world sounds very bled out in a rather blinding way. Let's at least wish the true ways of the world does not define itself under the category of destruction to have a cold and dark world indeed. Do not mistake me though, I do not mean to put words in your mouth, just trying to express what i think I'm hearing from your post. But I guess I'm just saying if you say the world is as you said...it would hurt to see it that way...If you're right, I guess then we need to find gifts in our lives, hidden beneath the pain. If that's true, then at least we will endure and in it gives hope to me and others. But I believe everyone including me can be saved in true harmonious combinations in life. To help others is not a weakness and that it is strength to both the helper and the helped in no corrupted ways of any angle in life to me though. I guess I ask these kinds of questions sometimes because in these ideals I'm an all or nothing kind of guy. I should probably ask you how old you are? There is nothing new under the sun. All new things are just various cycles of the old. One type of person bleeds into another until one day you look and are reminded of multiple people by one face. Friends one day are enemies the next and even this cycles itself through. One minute you are on top of the world, the next you are below everyone's boot. Even this cycles through itself. Success is someone else's failure and it is a war of all against all. This cycles itself out further. If you succeed, it will cost you everything. If you fail it costs you everything. Promises are made, words given...neither are kept for those who make them either lie or are fools with good intentions. Lovers do not know what goes on in the others head while they sleep next to eachother at night. Everything is just a vain exhibition regardless of your success or failure. The day one dies is better than the day they are born. This is what I learned in my 30 years of existence. As to charity, it is strictly an exhibition. Or one does it because it makes them feel good. One only has to walk into a standard western family to see that nobody cares about anything other than the latest distraction.
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Post by kyloscythe91 on Dec 13, 2018 17:12:20 GMT
Well I guess it's possible there's nothing new in philosophy possible to obtain, maybe no more original ideas possible for geniuses to come out with in papers in colleges and even if there are, are just various types and offshoots of major ones already out. If you ask me, yeah, it's possible, that may be true, but it's a truth I'll stave off because it's not who I am for I believe there're higher mysteries that is still is to come until it arrives whether it is here on this world or in the beyond in space. We can agree to disagree. As to your question to my age, I'll just say I'm around your age.
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