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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Dec 8, 2018 11:40:54 GMT
As an Egyptian Pharaoh said that "there's only one truth" we could suppose that he said that if there was the truth it would be as something united or a whole.
Actually, it's odd, but seems to be truth. Even if there are plenty of truths they will be counted as something united and again as the only one thing. Any set of truths will work as the one truth.
So, under this interpretation the Pharaoh had the right point. He said something tautological?
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Post by fschmidt on Dec 11, 2018 10:52:46 GMT
I'm not even an animal person. So philosophy is so much better. No, puppies and kittens are better than philosophy, that's my philosophy. My reasoning is that most puppies and kittens are good while most philosophy is bad.
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Post by kyloscythe91 on Dec 12, 2018 23:03:45 GMT
I never heard of sticking to a single idea that will give all the answers if that's what you're asking. I have yet to find an existing code to answer everything in life.
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Post by fistoflife on Dec 24, 2018 15:03:32 GMT
I believe there is one truth and that is the truth to yourself. If a person is honest to themselves then they will discover that they are ultimately selfish individuals, following through with their desires may lead to conflict within relationships but will ultimately lead to a better life. I wrote some chapters on the problems faced when telling the truth to others and ones self. Download the latest pdf here: ufile.io/6bsyhThe truth about the existence of the universe I believe is held within the mind, accessing this knowledge is constant yet to put such a concept into words or a drawing immediately becomes impossible. I would relate it to making a video trying to explain a psychedelic experience, only so much of the experience can be simulated yet the concept of the experience is never shown. If the truth is to hold any practical value it would be in telling others to the best of your ability. This way even when you are attempting to be honest and later on contradict yourself you will still have the option of telling the truth again, therefore correcting yourself.
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Post by Elizabeth on Dec 24, 2018 18:26:24 GMT
they are ultimately selfish individuals, following through with their desires may lead to conflict within relationships but will ultimately lead to a better life. Can you explain how above part more? Basically you stated that there's a negative result (conflict in relationships) and then said it turns positive. How is having conflict in relationships a positive thing?
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Post by itsjohn on Dec 24, 2018 19:10:18 GMT
This could be the logic that in every discussion or conversation, there is only one truth. In every matter of life There is only one truth.
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Post by fistoflife on Dec 25, 2018 11:30:55 GMT
they are ultimately selfish individuals, following through with their desires may lead to conflict within relationships but will ultimately lead to a better life. Can you explain how above part more? Basically you stated that there's a negative result (conflict in relationships) and then said it turns positive. How is having conflict in relationships a positive thing? Lets take family for example as that is my best example through my own experiences. When I did not tell the truth to my family I was deceiving them. This caused myself hurt and emotional pain even if it wasn't obvious at the time. My family went along with the lie I was telling them simply because they were willing to trust my words over their instinct causing conflict within them (Instinct vs Words). It must be understood that as humans, words are just a language and a small part of communication, if you pay attention to the body language and gestures of the person you are talking to then a much bigger picture can be seen, perhaps unless the person is some sort of pathological liar, then the body language and gestures give away the game (Truth vs Lie). Sub-consciously humans pick up on all the most subtle parts of body language, I'd imagine it is one of the first things we learn to do as a child before we understand the language we are taught. In this scenario the human instinct is able to detect that something is off, once I did tell the truth and stop deceiving my family they revealed that they did in fact suspect that I was up to something but just not sur3 what. Families know each other incredibly well, so lying to a stranger is slightly easier but the same principles apply. Once the truth was told my family became angry that I deceived them, ultimately love was more powerful and I was forgiven. In my own life I am choosing to go back to the life style that resulted in me lying but this time I have told them the truth from the start about what I am doing. They do not accept nor agree with what I am doing but now I hold no internal conflict and my family does not suspect me as being off. The conflict was overcome by telling the truth, it was a short temporary conflict this time compared to the permanent ones lies cause.
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Post by Elizabeth on Dec 25, 2018 18:50:46 GMT
Can you explain how above part more? Basically you stated that there's a negative result (conflict in relationships) and then said it turns positive. How is having conflict in relationships a positive thing? Lets take family for example as that is my best example through my own experiences. When I did not tell the truth to my family I was deceiving them. This caused myself hurt and emotional pain even if it wasn't obvious at the time. My family went along with the lie I was telling them simply because they were willing to trust my words over their instinct causing conflict within them (Instinct vs Words). It must be understood that as humans, words are just a language and a small part of communication, if you pay attention to the body language and gestures of the person you are talking to then a much bigger picture can be seen, perhaps unless the person is some sort of pathological liar, then the body language and gestures give away the game (Truth vs Lie). Sub-consciously humans pick up on all the most subtle parts of body language, I'd imagine it is one of the first things we learn to do as a child before we understand the language we are taught. In this scenario the human instinct is able to detect that something is off, once I did tell the truth and stop deceiving my family they revealed that they did in fact suspect that I was up to something but just not sur3 what. Families know each other incredibly well, so lying to a stranger is slightly easier but the same principles apply. Once the truth was told my family became angry that I deceived them, ultimately love was more powerful and I was forgiven. In my own life I am choosing to go back to the life style that resulted in me lying but this time I have told them the truth from the start about what I am doing. They do not accept nor agree with what I am doing but now I hold no internal conflict and my family does not suspect me as being off. The conflict was overcome by telling the truth, it was a short temporary conflict this time compared to the permanent ones lies cause. So you mean you can always tell when someone is lying based on body language/gestures?
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Post by fistoflife on Dec 25, 2018 20:11:49 GMT
[/quote]So you mean you can always tell when someone is lying based on body language/gestures? [/quote]
Effectively yes at a subconscious level at the very least. I also say the path of lying leads to the truth being exposed ultimately. Therefore better to tell the truth from the start despite the initial conflict it can cause.
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Post by jonbain on Dec 25, 2018 22:40:48 GMT
As an Egyptian Pharaoh said that "there's only one truth" we could suppose that he said that if there was the truth it would be as something united or a whole. Actually, it's odd, but seems to be truth. Even if there are plenty of truths they will be counted as something united and again as the only one thing. Any set of truths will work as the one truth. So, under this interpretation the Pharaoh had the right point. He said something tautological? In physics there is only one truth - only one set of laws that govern all physical entities. But psychology is another matter. Firstly if there was only one truth of the mind, then it would be impossible for anyone to deny it. If all minds were perfectly determined, and thus logical, then we would never make errors. We would also have no free will. But contrariness is a fact of people which shows that the mind is not entirely governed by reason, and this it is at least partially free of the laws of physics. Now as far as ethics is concerned, we have a paradox, because that entails how minds and physics interact. There does appear to be one true set of ethical laws. So we may choose to be unethical - but still suffer the consequences. So we can see that this free choice is still partially subject to one truth, but also against it. But the big problem is words. We have in English about a 100 000 words to describe an infinite universe; and thus ambiguity in language often masquerades as ethical relativism - or even relativism in physics. As for physics and relativity - ha! I challenge you to challenge me on that one - but brace yourself for an avalanche of tangential debate!! And the angels shall label thee coward if you shy from it too!!!
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Post by Elizabeth on Dec 27, 2018 6:54:36 GMT
Effectively yes at a subconscious level at the very least. I also say the path of lying leads to the truth being exposed ultimately. Therefore better to tell the truth from the start despite the initial conflict it can cause. Wouldn't you have to at least know the person a bit to have time to learn their body language/gestures to look for truth in them?
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Post by fistoflife on Dec 27, 2018 11:13:05 GMT
Effectively yes at a subconscious level at the very least. I also say the path of lying leads to the truth being exposed ultimately. Therefore better to tell the truth from the start despite the initial conflict it can cause. Wouldn't you have to at least know the person a bit to have time to learn their body language/gestures to look for truth in them? Just how universal body language is would be something I should research, although I'm not sur3 it matters. I say It does not take long to get to know someone, and through just one short conversation you can learn an incredible amount by watching their gestures. This was made most obvious to me when I was sectioned in a mental health hospital and 3 'support workers' were assigned to me, each had a different role. The first was a mental heath officer (MHO) for the local council, then there was an independent advocacy worker and finally a solicitor. The 3 workers all followed a unique set of rules that applied to their jobs. The most telling was the MHO who worked for the council, it was in the rules of her job (Game) she was playing that she had no choice but to try get me sectioned for a further 60 days. Despite this she was also inclined to help me and I wanted to be released. This led to the most bizarre conversation where everything she said her gestures would signify the opposite. She did a tremendous amount of winking and hand gestures which appeared to be opposites of the words she was saying. This woman gave away her game because she had no reason to hide it from me. It was really a conversation in a code of opposites. This being said, the objective is not to see through other peoples games, they can lie if they want to, it is about you telling the truth to others and discovering the truth to yourself. The latter being the more difficult as it involves seeing through your own game that started getting played as a child. Most likely people have forgotten almost all the rules they set upon themselves.
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