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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 23, 2018 12:42:04 GMT
(This is a modification of J. Shellenberg's argument from non-believeing)
1. If God exists, He must either reveal Himself, or to make us to reveal Him. 2. Knowledge of God's being might be an evidence. 3. If knowledge of God's being is evident we might reveal his existence without making any conclusions. 4. God's being isn't evident (the claim of many people; or a weak claim of a certain man). 5. To make a simple conclusion we have to use a simple (a plain) deities. 6. Any simple (plain) deity is evident. 7. God's existence isn't evident, and not given from conclusions as well. 8. God doesn't reveal Himself, not through evidences. 9. God doesn't exist. 10. There's no God.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Nov 28, 2018 1:23:32 GMT
You've already contradicted yourself several times. First you said "I have seen my coffee magically reheated in my cup as i held it in my hand." then right after this you said "Devils are real too I know they have the ability to use what we call magic". So, going by what you plainly said, devils used magic to reheat your cup of coffee. And now you are saying "Devils can cast miracle"... so which is it? Magic or miracles? I am saying they are the same. it is not self contradictory no more than Vagina or pussy they are the same thing. You can try to pick me apart as much as you want. But you wont be able to run from the truth I have shared with you. Who knows which heated my Coffee. Both God and Devil could have. Point is these stories are a lot more than Myth. Well, they aren't the same thing. Magic is a thing of man and demons. Miracles are supernatural works of God. Wait, so now you are saying you don't know who reheated your coffee? Or that both God and the Devil did? I do not believe you are telling any truth at all, in my opinion you are more of taking parts of the Bible and twisting it to fit whatever fantastic idea you've got going on that you claim to have gotten from God. It is called eisegesis.
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Post by prophettom on Nov 28, 2018 1:45:24 GMT
I am saying they are the same. it is not self contradictory no more than Vagina or pussy they are the same thing. You can try to pick me apart as much as you want. But you wont be able to run from the truth I have shared with you. Who knows which heated my Coffee. Both God and Devil could have. Point is these stories are a lot more than Myth. Well, they aren't the same thing. Magic is a thing of man and demons. Miracles are supernatural works of God. Wait, so now you are saying you don't know who reheated your coffee? Or that both God and the Devil did? I do not believe you are telling any truth at all, in my opinion you are more of taking parts of the Bible and twisting it to fit whatever fantastic idea you've got going on that you claim to have gotten from God. It is called eisegesis. Here is how it is. Magic and Miracle are the same thing. We are not talking a magic show we are talking visions and speaking so I can only hear. You perception and effort to distort the truth I have given you is not a healthy pursuit for you. Who cares if it was God or Devil that reheated my coffee? Point is it was done. Magic and Miracle either or does not matter they are the same just a different word used with the same meaning. I am walking with Gods sir.
It is a brief break down. But I can help you with every verse if you really like! But this is not the place to do it!
You clearly are upset that the truth is not turning out what you believed it to be. That is not my fault. I did not do it. Don't harass the messenger about it. How Do i know Devils can? I seen it when they tried to deceive me! How do I know God Can? I seen it when the red writing flashed before my eyes. Perhaps for once in your life you need to step back look at what you are doing and grab a perspective of what it may mean to you trying to babble the words of a Chosen by Gods spoken word sir. There is no question I have not confused you. There is every proof you are trying to confuse what i said for others so your own beliefs will feel more certain to you. But you cant run you cant hide! God will tell you these things in very much the same manner i have Miracle and Magic are the same! What a idiot! Perhaps after you have had your Judgment before God as I have you will learn to taper your will to empower confusion over a true word just to amuse yourself! Why would you try to argue it from a perspective of looking in with the one dealing and living with this realty?
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Post by DKTrav88 on Nov 28, 2018 4:47:23 GMT
Well, they aren't the same thing. Magic is a thing of man and demons. Miracles are supernatural works of God. Wait, so now you are saying you don't know who reheated your coffee? Or that both God and the Devil did? I do not believe you are telling any truth at all, in my opinion you are more of taking parts of the Bible and twisting it to fit whatever fantastic idea you've got going on that you claim to have gotten from God. It is called eisegesis. Here is how it is. Magic and Miracle are the same thing. We are not talking a magic show we are talking visions and speaking so I can only hear. You perception and effort to distort the truth I have given you is not a healthy pursuit for you. Who cares if it was God or Devil that reheated my coffee? Point is it was done. Magic and Miracle either or does not matter they are the same just a different word used with the same meaning. I am walking with Gods sir.
It is a brief break down. But I can help you with every verse if you really like! But this is not the place to do it!
You clearly are upset that the truth is not turning out what you believed it to be. That is not my fault. I did not do it. Don't harass the messenger about it. How Do i know Devils can? I seen it when they tried to deceive me! How do I know God Can? I seen it when the red writing flashed before my eyes. Perhaps for once in your life you need to step back look at what you are doing and grab a perspective of what it may mean to you trying to babble the words of a Chosen by Gods spoken word sir. There is no question I have not confused you. There is every proof you are trying to confuse what i said for others so your own beliefs will feel more certain to you. But you cant run you cant hide! God will tell you these things in very much the same manner i have Miracle and Magic are the same! What a idiot! Perhaps after you have had your Judgment before God as I have you will learn to taper your will to empower confusion over a true word just to amuse yourself! Why would you try to argue it from a perspective of looking in with the one dealing and living with this realty? Magic is cheap, fake, and powerless. Miracles are powerful, real, and everlasting. Most magic is illusion, while on the other hand miracles reveal; they show us the power of God. They both may look the same on the surface, but their goals are different: one, that is magic, is meant to deceive and trick you, while miracles are a gift and in many cases are for healing, they do not glorify man while magic does. What you have presented here is not consistent with the scripture in the Bible. It is more consistent with Jewish fables. And I am only here in defense of the gospel, which all Christians are called to. If it doesn't matter who reheated your coffee, then why did you bring it up? No, I am not upset at all. I am more disappointed that the devil has deceived yet another person, that person being you. All this does is make stedfast my faith, because the Bible tells of this exact thing happening, that many false prophets will come. Or, perhaps you are just confused and need to be corrected. You can start a thread if you wish and we can discuss things there.
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Post by prophettom on Nov 28, 2018 5:22:18 GMT
Here is how it is. Magic and Miracle are the same thing. We are not talking a magic show we are talking visions and speaking so I can only hear. You perception and effort to distort the truth I have given you is not a healthy pursuit for you. Who cares if it was God or Devil that reheated my coffee? Point is it was done. Magic and Miracle either or does not matter they are the same just a different word used with the same meaning. I am walking with Gods sir.
It is a brief break down. But I can help you with every verse if you really like! But this is not the place to do it!
You clearly are upset that the truth is not turning out what you believed it to be. That is not my fault. I did not do it. Don't harass the messenger about it. How Do i know Devils can? I seen it when they tried to deceive me! How do I know God Can? I seen it when the red writing flashed before my eyes. Perhaps for once in your life you need to step back look at what you are doing and grab a perspective of what it may mean to you trying to babble the words of a Chosen by Gods spoken word sir. There is no question I have not confused you. There is every proof you are trying to confuse what i said for others so your own beliefs will feel more certain to you. But you cant run you cant hide! God will tell you these things in very much the same manner i have Miracle and Magic are the same! What a idiot! Perhaps after you have had your Judgment before God as I have you will learn to taper your will to empower confusion over a true word just to amuse yourself! Why would you try to argue it from a perspective of looking in with the one dealing and living with this realty? Magic is cheap, fake, and powerless. Miracles are powerful, real, and everlasting. Most magic is illusion, while on the other hand miracles reveal; they show us the power of God. They both may look the same on the surface, but their goals are different: one, that is magic, is meant to deceive and trick you, while miracles are a gift and in many cases are for healing, they do not glorify man while magic does. What you have presented here is not consistent with the scripture in the Bible. It is more consistent with Jewish fables. And I am only here in defense of the gospel, which all Christians are called to. If it doesn't matter who reheated your coffee, then why did you bring it up? No, I am not upset at all. I am more disappointed that the devil has deceived yet another person, that person being you. All this does is make stedfast my faith, because the Bible tells of this exact thing happening, that many false prophets will come. Or, perhaps you are just confused and need to be corrected. You can start a thread if you wish and we can discuss things there. I did not say a magic trick, I said magic. Real magic is the same as miracle you are stuck on your own perception. I have even made it clear they are the same to me. I have had more than i can count in fact. This is why the masses fall. Right here exactly as you do defending the beast and his false Messiah. Here you are believing that only through him can forgiveness be given, And that all things must be purchased through him. That is also said of the false Messiah is it not? Do you think the time I am forced to spend with fallen gods fun? Do you think we are just having a great old time? Devils go out doing miracles and creating false sign is written in your book there at the back when it speaks of the false Prophet and/or Messiah. You said that Devils and beasts Do magic only well guess you forgotten God had told you in revelation that that is miracle they do. So I guess you like your head all lost in babble because you said it was magic and it was but it is also a miracle!
Exodus 21:20-21 20 And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished.
21 Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money.
This is just one of many examples why I keep telling you that book you think holy is evil. This says in case you did not catch it that if a man own a slave and smite him and kill him that so long as no one notices for a day or two no crime happened. The law he gave you after he freed his people was to teach you enslaving people and killing them at will and not talking about it was holy? So a man frees his people from slavery makes a home in the wilderness somewhere then goes out creating wars and taking slaves with laws that made him holy to do it even though he knew it was wrong! That book has evil all over it and those stories are the stories of a Dragons victory over man not him leading you to salvation but to slavery and death full of injustice!, What if God decided you were to be a slave for all eternal life in a law as unjust as this?
Does that look holy? Jesus said that he law was! that came right out of the judgments that the same lord gave them face to face! Don't be caught in the masses already fallen to learn this! Because it is those that fall and you feel safety in numbers but they are all deceived! I thought God was a Devil too when i first learned i did not have to follow that law! So i read it and very carefully! I am a Chosen I was not looking to fall fool heartedly. Like you I thought they had to be obeyed!
Hey preach remember Moses! The one chosen to free his people and when he cast his rod iron staff to the ground what was that there preach? Serpent wasn't it! What was that there preach that Eve fell too and helped Adam to fall to? it was that serpent! So now you ignored that sign and thought Moses had the perfect law? Hey man do you believe in human Slavery? Did you know that law embraces it? Not only does it embrace it. It clearly states that if a manservant is given a wife by his master that if they should have children that after 7 years if the man should chose to leave his master that the woman and the children belong to the master! (that is straight up owning a person aka slavery) DID YOU THINK THAT HOLY PREACH? Now if the manservant should say I love my wife and kids and ask the master to stay that the master should run a awl through his ear and let him stay and keep his wife and children. So lets break it down preach! That means the manservant accepts a slavery mark for all his life to keep his wife and kids! DO YOU SEE THAT SERPENT NOW? Then you want to tell me the guy that endorsed every word written was the perfect lesson? Not exactly he had his evil best hidden by the prior false prophets!
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Post by DKTrav88 on Nov 28, 2018 5:32:35 GMT
Magic is cheap, fake, and powerless. Miracles are powerful, real, and everlasting. Most magic is illusion, while on the other hand miracles reveal; they show us the power of God. They both may look the same on the surface, but their goals are different: one, that is magic, is meant to deceive and trick you, while miracles are a gift and in many cases are for healing, they do not glorify man while magic does. What you have presented here is not consistent with the scripture in the Bible. It is more consistent with Jewish fables. And I am only here in defense of the gospel, which all Christians are called to. If it doesn't matter who reheated your coffee, then why did you bring it up? No, I am not upset at all. I am more disappointed that the devil has deceived yet another person, that person being you. All this does is make stedfast my faith, because the Bible tells of this exact thing happening, that many false prophets will come. Or, perhaps you are just confused and need to be corrected. You can start a thread if you wish and we can discuss things there. I did not say a magic trick, I said magic. Real magic is the same as miracle you are stuck on your own perception. I have even made it clear they are the same to me. I have had more than i can count in fact. This is why the masses fall. Right here exactly as you do defending the beast and his false Messiah. Here you are believing that only through him can forgiveness be given, And that all things must be purchased through him. That is also said of the false Messiah is it not? Do you think the time I am forced to spend with fallen gods fun? Do you think we are just having a great old time? Devils go out doing miracles and creating false sign is written in your book there at the back when it speaks of the false Prophet and/or Messiah. You said that Devils and beasts Do magic only well guess you forgotten God had told you in revelation that that is exactly what they do. So I guess you like your head all lost in babble because you said it was magic and it was but it is also a miracle! Exodus 21:20-21 20 And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished.
21 Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money.
This is just one of many examples why I keep telling you that book you think holy is evil. This says in case you did not catch it that if a man own a slave and smite him and kill him that so long as no one notices for a day or two no crime happened. The law he gave you after he freed his people was to teach you enslaving people and killing them at will and not talking about it was holy? So a man frees his people from slavery makes a home in the wilderness somewhere then goes out creating wars and taking slaves with laws that made him holy to do it even though he knew it was wrong! That book has evil all over it and those stories are the stories of a Dragons victory over man not him leading you to salvation but to slavery and death full of injustice!, What if God decided you were to be a slave for all eternal life in a law as unjust as this?
Does that look holy? Jesus said that he law was! that came right out of the judgments that the same lord gave them face to face! Don't be caught in the masses already fallen to learn this! Because it is those that fall and you feel safety in numbers but they are all deceived! I thought God was a Devil too when i first learned i did not have to follow that law! So i read it and very carefully! I am a Chosen I was not looking to fall fool heartedly. Like you I thought they had to be obeyed!
Hey preach remember Moses! The one chosen to free his people and when he cast his rod iron staff to the ground what was that there preach? Serpent wasn't it! What was that there preach that Eve fell too and helped Adam to fall to? it was that serpent! So now you ignored that sign and thought Moses had the perfect law? Hey man do you believe in human Slavery? Did you know that law embraces it? Not only does it embrace it. It clearly states that if a manservant is given a wife by his master that if they should have children that after 7 years if the man should chose to leave his master that the woman and the children belong to the master! (that is straight up owning a person aka slavery) DID YOU THINK THAT HOLY PREACH? Now if the manservant should say I love my wife and kids and ask the master to stay that the master should run a awl through his ear and let him stay and keep his wife and children. So lets break it down preach! That means the manservant accepts a slavery mark for all his life to keep his wife and kids! DO YOU SEE THAT SERPENT NOW? Then you want to tell me the guy that endorsed every word written was the perfect lesson? Not exactly he had his evil best hidden by the prior false prophets!
If you want to discuss this further, start a thread and we can discuss it there. You are going off topic now, here in this forum we try to keep discussions in threads matched with the topics they're related to to keep things organized and threads easier to read through.
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Post by prophettom on Nov 28, 2018 5:42:18 GMT
That Serpent is subtle indeed. I guess it is time to tell you to invest in the eye slave so you can cure your sight. Once you have fallen to these books that are the mark of the beast taken in hand and memorized to forehead (memory which happens to be in the frontal lobe) It is the mark of the beast when you think them holy. The only way to remove it and replace it with the seal of God is to see why it is a evil works that lead to death and hell and following pale horse and rider you can than be sealed in the first of all Gods. Yeah there is more than one. The ones that are here are evil! They did this to you not me. I am only the messenger. Good night and good luck. You make it no matter what but this will help you make it a lot easier than the path you are on!
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Post by Elizabeth on Nov 28, 2018 5:58:03 GMT
You've already contradicted yourself several times. First you said "I have seen my coffee magically reheated in my cup as i held it in my hand." then right after this you said "Devils are real too I know they have the ability to use what we call magic". So, going by what you plainly said, devils used magic to reheat your cup of coffee. And now you are saying "Devils can cast miracle"... so which is it? Magic or miracles? I am saying they are the same. it is not self contradictory no more than Vagina or pussy they are the same thing. You can try to pick me apart as much as you want. But you wont be able to run from the truth I have shared with you. Who knows which heated my Coffee. Both God and Devil could have. Point is these stories are a lot more than Myth. So like if you're unsure if it was God or Satan who heated the coffee then how can you be sure about other things? Also the prophet part of your username is interesting. How do you perceive yourself? Are you called on a mission?
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Post by prophettom on Nov 28, 2018 6:31:51 GMT
I am saying they are the same. it is not self contradictory no more than Vagina or pussy they are the same thing. You can try to pick me apart as much as you want. But you wont be able to run from the truth I have shared with you. Who knows which heated my Coffee. Both God and Devil could have. Point is these stories are a lot more than Myth. So like if you're unsure if it was God or Satan who heated the coffee then how can you be sure about other things? Also the prophet part of your username is interesting. How do you perceive yourself? Are you called on a mission? No dear I was judged for the choices I made by the spoken word of God and he said " YOU HAVE CHOSEN AND YOU HAVE CHOSEN WELL AND YOU HAVE BEEN FOUND PURE OF HEART AND YOU HAVE BEEN CHOSEN." Than there was this song. So God calls me Chosen I chose the word prophet because man understands that better and is more familiar with that in these matters. But I am actually a chosen by the spoken word and judgment of God. I know them by their works dear. That is how I learned to be able to find evil teachings in holy places and see how they lead to Pale horse and rider best. Only death and hell follow him. In the end nearly all religion teaches that if we do not do as those books say we can go ahead and go to hell. Some think it is eternal torture some think it is the eternal death. When you think killing is the answer to curing evil than you think the death and hell are the way to peace and worship hell and death best Pale horse and rider. You have to know them by their works and you have to study it not just speed read it. As the veils of deceit about it start to slip away you start to see how simple things like a word is made to be a prejudice in those books giving you every reason to hate any who use a word! It creates division on purpose. Even those reading the same book are often divided up when they get to the detail. And how the details that are evil I point out have not been seen as evil up to this point floors me! You must examine their works and look hard to see where that will lead to know if they are guiding you toward a deceit or not. He is subtle you have to look for it! Why i am helping by pointing some key factors out. The tools of the Fallen are pretty much the same. Look to the laws they endorse is the easiest way to know! If they empower evil and any prophet after that says they are holy they too are false Prophets. I was given my first clue i was going to be a prophet at the age of 9 or so.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Dec 3, 2018 16:12:00 GMT
It's quite sane position about 'God uses more superior logic than people'. But this statement destroys all hopes to solve anything about God; moreover it allows for us to think that God is God as Satan, and God is slave while being master, etc. Surely, some of religious people might claim that God is good despite his actions (I mean disasters, nonsense killing of people, etc), because he's wise and he knows what is the best for us. Well, this position is a solid protection of ...a god, not a God. Most likely, holding a view on 'something big' instead of a certain God is just changing the thesis of the topic. You need to use a term 'The Ultimate Power' instead of using God, because a Christian God, for example, has his own permissions to people. He said through Bible (as you said it above) that he has brought the new testament, that there will be Apocalypsis, etc. He also said to love and the other things. That's why his promises have to be counted as his I.D., and in vice versa he's a cheater. Slave and master at the same time? Can you provide an example? Personally, I think of this story. The teacher is like the master over the student because teacher tells what the student must do and the student like a slave will do it. But the teacher isn't the student too because he doesn't plan to do that same work that he assigned the student to give himself a grade because he doesn't need that class for anything. He is a teacher of the class so doesn't need the class himself. The student/slave can't be a teacher because he doesn't know how to be a master/teacher because isn't taught in that area. Like I can't go teach about brain surgery since I don't know anything about it but I can learn it as a student. Thank you for question. I wanted to say here, that if God uses his own logic, and this logic goes beyond our views, then at leas a part of this logic won't be seen by us. To be unseen means inconceivable (or something), it means that He can even make things He has promised not to do. For example, if I sit playing chess with my friend who told me that he is not a cheater, but he, however, is cheating all the time during our play, so I can ask him: "Hey, buddy, didn't you said you wasn't a cheater?" - "Yeah, I said" - He answered - "But, I said it using one type of logic you understand, but I used another type of logic what you didn't understand". "What kind of logic? - I asked - "Well, it's useless to ask while you are not able to understand it". Something like that. No, I don't want to say that God does something, but it's not right for us to think about Him something strange, like an apt of cheating. He's God, so He doesn't need to cheat, and He is God for us which means He won't lie. The example of teacher and his students is good, I agree here that this is relevant. I just wanted to answer to Fox. I think it's because of my pouring knowledge of English and having no progress in it. It happens all the time to me to do more and more mistakes. During this spring and summer I felt myself more comfortable with speaking. Now the job is confusing me taking more responsible for it. I'll dream of time to forget about philosophy for a year... I'm tired of it for a while... Time to time my friends call me to come out with them for playing some music (I play harmonica as I already said it). I'd like to go to, but the job... Oh, man... I'm a slave now, even being 'a master' (as a lecturer)
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Post by joustos on Dec 3, 2018 18:12:57 GMT
What is an ILLUSION? Something that Seems to be real but (by some estimate or other) it is not. Dreams, etc., that are verisimilitudinal [ real-like] give rise to the illusion that what appears is real. Of course, dreams, hallucinations, etc., OCCUR, but what appears has no substantial reality. So, asks Plato, what is a substantial reality? A substance is a subject of actions that can affect others and can be affected by others. (Thus Plato defines existence as Dynamis: the power to affect and be affected.) Furthermore, things which are perceived (which appear to our senses) are not, cannot be, in themselves as they appear. So, by our various perceptions, we do not acquire true knowledge of things as they are in themselves. So, in his dialogue "Theaetetus", Plato eliminates the possibility of a science [true knowledge] of the perceptible [physical] world, a position that will be overturned by Galileo's approach in his "Dialogues concerning Two New Sciences" about two thousand years later.
As for the God or the Gods, the philosophically versed early Christian theologians basically understood that God cannot be something other than what Parmenides describes as "to ti esti" (that which is; Being),but they never resolved the issue of "Creator and Creature" or, much later, Eurigena's "natura naturans and natura naturata". We usually still think in terms of God as a substance and the universe as a created substance. ……….
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2018 18:21:49 GMT
(This is a modification of J. Shellenberg's argument from non-believeing) 1. If God exists, He must either reveal Himself, or to make us to reveal Him. 2. Knowledge of God's being might be an evidence. 3. If knowledge of God's being is evident we might reveal his existence without making any conclusions. 4. God's being isn't evident (the claim of many people; or a weak claim of a certain man). 5. To make a simple conclusion we have to use a simple (a plain) deities. 6. Any simple (plain) deity is evident. 7. God's existence isn't evident, and not given from conclusions as well. 8. God doesn't reveal Himself, not through evidences. 9. God doesn't exist. 10. There's no God. 1. If God is defined as Omnipresent; God is already revealed. 2. All evidence occurs through existence, if God is omnipresent then all existence is evidence. 3. If God is evidence, and all evidence is premised in being with all being existing through a continuum (otherwise it would not be "being") then all evidence must exist as a continuum; hence there is no finite proof for God without first observing finiteness as multiple continuum's existing within further continuums. 4. All evidence is subject to interpretation, with interpretation observing a symmetry between a subjective state and an objective reality. However considering the subjective state is formless, the only symmetry conducive to this formless state would be point space as a proof of God. 5. All simplicity is unified complexity and is strictly a statement of relation in accords to the interpreter. 6. Point space is evident, as it is the foundation for evidence; hence it exists as evidence, through evidence, while simultaneously being beyond evidence. 7. Point space is evident, as it occurs through evidence; hence God is evident. 8. God reveals himself through the process of creation considering all abstract and empirical phenomena occur through point space. 9. God exists, but is not limited to existence. 10. No God is a foundational definition for God, as a negation requires a proof.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Dec 5, 2018 15:59:00 GMT
(This is a modification of J. Shellenberg's argument from non-believeing) 1. If God exists, He must either reveal Himself, or to make us to reveal Him. 2. Knowledge of God's being might be an evidence. 3. If knowledge of God's being is evident we might reveal his existence without making any conclusions. 4. God's being isn't evident (the claim of many people; or a weak claim of a certain man). 5. To make a simple conclusion we have to use a simple (a plain) deities. 6. Any simple (plain) deity is evident. 7. God's existence isn't evident, and not given from conclusions as well. 8. God doesn't reveal Himself, not through evidences. 9. God doesn't exist. 10. There's no God. 1. If God is defined as Omnipresent; God is already revealed. 2. All evidence occurs through existence, if God is omnipresent then all existence is evidence. 3. If God is evidence, and all evidence is premised in being with all being existing through a continuum (otherwise it would not be "being") then all evidence must exist as a continuum; hence there is no finite proof for God without first observing finiteness as multiple continuum's existing within further continuums. 4. All evidence is subject to interpretation, with interpretation observing a symmetry between a subjective state and an objective reality. However considering the subjective state is formless, the only symmetry conducive to this formless state would be point space as a proof of God. 5. All simplicity is unified complexity and is strictly a statement of relation in accords to the interpreter. 6. Point space is evident, as it is the foundation for evidence; hence it exists as evidence, through evidence, while simultaneously being beyond evidence. 7. Point space is evident, as it occurs through evidence; hence God is evident. 8. God reveals himself through the process of creation considering all abstract and empirical phenomena occur through point space. 9. God exists, but is not limited to existence. 10. No God is a foundational definition for God, as a negation requires a proof.
The proof is as good as always. Even since #1 sentence.
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