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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 23, 2018 12:33:34 GMT
There's a proof that it's impossible to claim that the world is an illusion.
Anyone who tries to sure you that everything (or 'the world') is an illusion is trying to give you some explanations of this; he wants you to make some conclusions by yourself. Either way he fails.
Take a look, if he wants you to believe his words you can or just to believe him and this won't be an argument, but just a belief in something; if he wants you to make some conclusions, then he's going wrong even more, because no conclusions will be existed.
Briefly, there's no conclusion in the world of illusions.
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Post by Polaris on Dec 4, 2018 16:54:16 GMT
But the world is real. So doesn't seem like an illusion to me ًWake up Queen, you are only hallucinating. there is no real world. you live in a big illusion
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Post by Elizabeth on Dec 4, 2018 16:59:54 GMT
But the world is real. So doesn't seem like an illusion to me ًWake up Queen, you are only hallucinating. there is no real world. you live in a big illusion Noooooo
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Post by Elizabeth on Dec 4, 2018 18:19:47 GMT
Slim Pickens How does one find illusion or not illusion qualities? Or what is illusion? Well,I figured he was joking about Matrix,and so have I. Illusion,by definition,is a distortion of senses.So we take it that this world is real,but we except that there are several more options,one being that we live in some sort of simulation-"Brain in a vat" sort of thing.If the simulation is far more complex than our sensory and logical capacities,then we can't see it. It's a different kind of illusion,what we are talking here. We can deduce that people,when sober,share the same understanding of solid,objective,material reality (I'm not talking beliefs and ideas and stuff here).Any dissonance from that-seeing,hearing and touching objects that others don't is an illusion. This can be argued by nitpicking philosophers,but I don't think that's what philosophy should be about.Nitpicking,I mean. But isn't it us just giving labels to what's illusion and what isn't? What if reality is the opposite or something? How can one know?
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Post by Polaris on Dec 4, 2018 18:24:20 GMT
Well,I figured he was joking about Matrix,and so have I. Illusion,by definition,is a distortion of senses.So we take it that this world is real,but we except that there are several more options,one being that we live in some sort of simulation-"Brain in a vat" sort of thing.If the simulation is far more complex than our sensory and logical capacities,then we can't see it. It's a different kind of illusion,what we are talking here. We can deduce that people,when sober,share the same understanding of solid,objective,material reality (I'm not talking beliefs and ideas and stuff here).Any dissonance from that-seeing,hearing and touching objects that others don't is an illusion. This can be argued by nitpicking philosophers,but I don't think that's what philosophy should be about.Nitpicking,I mean. But isn't it us just giving labels to what's illusion and what isn't? What if reality is the opposite or something? How can one know? هit is impossible to prove anything if you adopt the notion that the world is an illusion, for the simple fact that the logic for proving or refuting any argument will equally be an illusion.
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Post by sexytime on Dec 4, 2018 18:25:14 GMT
too many drugs ?
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Post by Elizabeth on Dec 4, 2018 18:54:53 GMT
But isn't it us just giving labels to what's illusion and what isn't? What if reality is the opposite or something? How can one know? هit is impossible to prove anything if you adopt the notion that the world is an illusion, for the simple fact that the logic for proving or refuting any argument will equally be an illusion. So how does one win in solving such a dilemma? Sad
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Post by Polaris on Dec 4, 2018 22:55:43 GMT
هit is impossible to prove anything if you adopt the notion that the world is an illusion, for the simple fact that the logic for proving or refuting any argument will equally be an illusion. So how does one win in solving such a dilemma? The only way to win in this dilemma is to see your opponent equally puzzled.
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Post by Polaris on Dec 4, 2018 22:58:44 GMT
or you may win by just using illusion and reality interchangeably in this respect.
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