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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 14, 2018 17:25:04 GMT
There's an interesting image. I think that this could be the one.  |
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Post by DKTrav88 on Nov 14, 2018 17:33:45 GMT
The Bible doesn’t give us a description of Jesus mainly because God does not want us to make images to worship. Though, there are many people who believe Jesus was African or ‘black’, all in all it does not matter what He looked like.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 14, 2018 18:06:38 GMT
The Bible doesn’t give us a description of Jesus mainly because God does not want us to make images to worship. Though, there are many people who believe Jesus was African or ‘black’, all in all it does not matter what He looked like. I've heard from my Jewish teacher that Jesus was ginger. I think he's right it's highly possible that he is. But many African people think that Jesus was black, and I think that they're right too. It is important how Jesus looked like, because if we didn't know how He looked like we couldn't be sure that He existed at all. For example, let's say that there's a guy named Travis, but we don't know how he looks like. Ok, they say that many people can't be seen because they, for example, are living online. But Jesus was being seen. Either nobody saw Him, or they had to know how He looked like. If Bible doesn't get us this info, this is really bad. This means that Bible isn't enough to claim that there was Jesus. |
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Post by Lone Wanderer on Nov 14, 2018 18:20:58 GMT
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Post by DKTrav88 on Nov 15, 2018 1:31:51 GMT
The Bible doesn’t give us a description of Jesus mainly because God does not want us to make images to worship. Though, there are many people who believe Jesus was African or ‘black’, all in all it does not matter what He looked like. I've heard from my Jewish teacher that Jesus was ginger. I think he's right it's highly possible that he is. But many African people think that Jesus was black, and I think that they're right too. It is important how Jesus looked like, because if we didn't know how He looked like we couldn't be sure that He existed at all. For example, let's say that there's a guy named Travis, but we don't know how he looks like. Ok, they say that many people can't be seen because they, for example, are living online. But Jesus was being seen. Either nobody saw Him, or they had to know how He looked like. If Bible doesn't get us this info, this is really bad. This means that Bible isn't enough to claim that there was Jesus. I'm not really understanding the logic behind why we need to know what someone physically looked like in order to know they existed shrug we know many people existed in the world without knowing what they looked like... so by the logic you are using, we can't claim any of them existed because we don't know what they looked like? That's silly shrug And I think it's a bit odd to think Jesus was a ginger and he was black(African) at the same time... unless you're saying he was an African ginger?.. I mean that combination is possible I suppose, but I don't believe Jesus was either of those. I believe He was middle eastern, a Nazarene, whatever they looked like in that day.. hard to say since so much mixing has happened since then. |
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Post by AmericanCharm on Nov 15, 2018 6:34:35 GMT
He would have looked Semitic, those who say he was black are buying into Afrocentrist nonsense. He was Judean/Hebrew from the Middle East. We know what these people looked like. He most likely did have quite dark features, such as why he was described with bronze skin. That would be fairly typical for those people in this part of the world.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 15, 2018 11:22:46 GMT
I've heard from my Jewish teacher that Jesus was ginger. I think he's right it's highly possible that he is. But many African people think that Jesus was black, and I think that they're right too. It is important how Jesus looked like, because if we didn't know how He looked like we couldn't be sure that He existed at all. For example, let's say that there's a guy named Travis, but we don't know how he looks like. Ok, they say that many people can't be seen because they, for example, are living online. But Jesus was being seen. Either nobody saw Him, or they had to know how He looked like. If Bible doesn't get us this info, this is really bad. This means that Bible isn't enough to claim that there was Jesus. I'm not really understanding the logic behind why we need to know what someone physically looked like in order to know they existed  we know many people existed in the world without knowing what they looked like... so by the logic you are using, we can't claim any of them existed because we don't know what they looked like? That's silly And I think it's a bit odd to think Jesus was a ginger and he was black(African) at the same time... unless you're saying he was an African ginger?.. I mean that combination is possible I suppose, but I don't believe Jesus was either of those. I believe He was middle eastern, a Nazarene, whatever they looked like in that day.. hard to say since so much mixing has happened since then. You know maybe this is really irrelevant. I said just what I'd heard. To know a man in face is not silly at all. For example, if I would have seen you I would be sure that I wouldn't be talking with a bot. You can wear a mask or something, but a speak with a living creature usually doesn't make deceptive appearance. In the last days the cyborgs are already being invented, so in the next two decades I won't be sure about the human view. Maybe Jesus wasn't an African, but He was ginger like many other Jews. Jews were usually ginger as so Egyptians. |
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Post by Διαμονδ on Nov 15, 2018 15:11:08 GMT
As on the Turin Shroud. I believe it!
Like that. Anyway, the typical Semitic appearance!
18. No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
(John 1:18)
Given the fact that he received a human body, he, like any other person, could leave his mark on the world. Photo. Artifact!
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Post by DKTrav88 on Nov 15, 2018 20:56:40 GMT
I'm not really understanding the logic behind why we need to know what someone physically looked like in order to know they existed we know many people existed in the world without knowing what they looked like... so by the logic you are using, we can't claim any of them existed because we don't know what they looked like? That's silly And I think it's a bit odd to think Jesus was a ginger and he was black(African) at the same time... unless you're saying he was an African ginger?.. I mean that combination is possible I suppose, but I don't believe Jesus was either of those. I believe He was middle eastern, a Nazarene, whatever they looked like in that day.. hard to say since so much mixing has happened since then. You know maybe this is really irrelevant. I said just what I'd heard. To know a man in face is not silly at all. For example, if I would have seen you I would be sure that I wouldn't be talking with a bot. You can wear a mask or something, but a speak with a living creature usually doesn't make deceptive appearance. In the last days the cyborgs are already being invented, so in the next two decades I won't be sure about the human view. Maybe Jesus wasn't an African, but He was ginger like many other Jews. Jews were usually ginger as so Egyptians. I didn’t say it is silly to know a man by his face shrug You said “ It is important how Jesus looked like, because if we didn't know how He looked like we couldn't be sure that He existed at all.“ and I said it’s silly logic because we know many many people existed throughout history but we never saw what they looked like, so if I use your logic in that we can’t trust that Jesus existed because we don’t know what He looked like, then we can’t trust that anyone existed because we don’t know what they looked like. It is silly to think this shrug You do understand that many Jews is Israel today came from Europe, right? I’ve heard Jews say the same that you said here, that Jesus was a ginger, but I don’t believe that. I don’t believe the Jews or anything they say about Jesus. They hate Jesus, they say they do in their Talmud shrug But, as I said before and as you said, it’s irrelevant and it doesn’t matter. |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 17, 2018 7:14:32 GMT
You know maybe this is really irrelevant. I said just what I'd heard. To know a man in face is not silly at all. For example, if I would have seen you I would be sure that I wouldn't be talking with a bot. You can wear a mask or something, but a speak with a living creature usually doesn't make deceptive appearance. In the last days the cyborgs are already being invented, so in the next two decades I won't be sure about the human view. Maybe Jesus wasn't an African, but He was ginger like many other Jews. Jews were usually ginger as so Egyptians. You do understand that many Jews is Israel today came from Europe, right? I’ve heard Jews say the same that you said here, that Jesus was a ginger, but I don’t believe that. I don’t believe the Jews or anything they say about Jesus. They hate Jesus, they say they do in their Talmud But, as I said before and as you said, it’s irrelevant and it doesn’t matter. It might be really truly. What if some Africans start to argue that Jesus was black? What should I do? Surely, I can send them to Bible where's no information about it. But - there was something - Bible doesn't say that Jesus was not like the other ones. Jesus was visiting a Church when he was young, and nobody said something like that: "Hey, look upon him! He's totally black!.. Madre dia diablos..." None said that, so we could be precisely sure that Jesus wasn't black. Is it possible for the other people in that time to be black? I didn't know about paleonthological researches about this, but it's highly possible that there were no black at the time. Romanians and the ancient historian from those times didn't say nothing special about that. |
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we know many people existed in the world without knowing what they looked like... so by the logic you are using, we can't claim any of them existed because we don't know what they looked like? That's silly 