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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 13, 2018 20:58:28 GMT
I've been always wanted to be a peacemaker (not the gun; I understand a peacemaker as a human whose intentions are directly to make peace between struggling sides of a conflict, or to calm involved into the conflict sides down). They say being too altruistic is stupid and worthless; all altruists achieve nothing, they just loose.
So, why is it so hard to be a peacemaker? Why people hates peacemakers? I really can't get a society hating the peacemakers.
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Post by Polaris on Nov 13, 2018 21:56:29 GMT
the temptation of the feeling of victory even if it is false victory makes people reject peacemaking compromises.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 13, 2018 21:59:26 GMT
the temptation of the feeling of victory even if it is false victory makes people reject peacemaking compromises. Yes. This is a strong argument. So, people bath in their own wishes and desires, and they want to stop being "hungry" at any costs. And this "hungry" is their wishes and desires. ...A bad circle.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Nov 13, 2018 22:01:53 GMT
some people exist due to wars etc
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Post by Elizabeth on Nov 13, 2018 22:04:51 GMT
I love peacemakers. They are the real heros in any situation.
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Post by Polaris on Nov 13, 2018 22:08:06 GMT
I love peacemakers. They are the real heros in any situation. And what about pacifiers ?
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Post by Elizabeth on Nov 13, 2018 22:32:52 GMT
I love peacemakers. They are the real heros in any situation. And what about pacifiers ? The thing babies suck on?
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Post by fschmidt on Nov 14, 2018 4:35:39 GMT
When cockroaches crawl into your kitchen, how do you make peace with them?
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 14, 2018 8:37:36 GMT
When cockroaches crawl into your kitchen, how do you make peace with them? This comment wasn't unexpected to me.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 14, 2018 12:14:19 GMT
To love everyone is to hold a view that everything (including scorpions and cockroaches) should exist. I'd say that if it would be possible we would make our world to be whatever we want to. We don't know our wishes or a point of them at the next moment, so if I'd like to drink an petrol oil, or to eat a crocodile next day, it would be cool to have a chance to do it. Therefore, our main task is to become gods. We should be able to do anything we want. And to do this we need to love every parts of Universe, because the more diversificational it is the more free and more powerful we would be. The god who has the Universe is the powerful creature. A human is trying to become a god, so why to stop on killing his neighbors or animals? We just need to find out how to rule 'em. How will we do this without love? The love allows us to enable such an element to our task to get functions from it.
In case of cockroaches I need to find out how to rule them, how to make them leave a room without any tyranny, but as a powerful god - just saying some commands them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2018 23:56:39 GMT
I've been always wanted to be a peacemaker (not the gun; I understand a peacemaker as a human whose intentions are directly to make peace between struggling sides of a conflict, or to calm involved into the conflict sides down). They say being too altruistic is stupid and worthless; all altruists achieve nothing, they just loose. So, why is it so hard to be a peacemaker? Why people hates peacemakers? I really can't get a society hating the peacemakers. Because people associate peace with boredom induced weakness and being exploited through ignorance...hence peace does not seem peaceful as it implies a perpetual victimhood which manifests in various degrees of the human character. Also people hold on to personal perspectives and means of being because they believe this is peace considering a feeling of security comes from understanding what they know. ( ignore random capitals) However this Fails In The Face Of Chaos Where A Persons Structure, Internally Or Externally, Is Burned Away For Whatever Lack Of Reason...And There Are Innumerable Lack Of Reasons. Neither of the above, while real reasons for how people approach peace, are true definitions of peace. Peace observes a sense of order derived from internal unity through self reflection while a sense of external unity occurs through the ability for people to maintain a sense of order with each other. This is at the social level. Peace occurs through a sense of structure where structure is merely a unity of the self to self, person to person, divine to divine. Structure occurs through a sense of awareness where we observe the inherent connectedness of things through thier similarities, (Ignore Random Capitals Again) With This Awareness Having A Passive Recieving Element (I See Order through an inherent symmetry And It Defines Me) And An Active Manifesting Element (I create Order in accords to my perceptions of it). In Simpler Terms Peace Occurs Through Awareness With Awareness Having An Active And Passive Nature. A person must practice being active and passive at the same time. Peace Is Unity, Unity Is Order, All Of Which Exist Through The Reflective Capacities Of Reason, Both Divine And Practical, In Which Reason As A Process Of Reflection Is Strictly A Mirroring Process Where We Replicate What Is Good, True And Beautiful While Inverting What Is Evil, In Accords With The Nature Of Evil, Into What is Good. Preserve The Good, Invert What Is Evil.
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Post by spacepantz86 on Dec 8, 2018 6:50:41 GMT
Do you think the antagonist is thinking the same thing?
What does peacemaker really mean? Someone that will restore the balance.
To be a true force of balance that means you must be willing to tip the scales toward the losing side (regardless of their cause).
That is why peacemakers are hated, true peacemakers will make sacrifices both sides of the line to keep the balance. Which in the eyes of the sides, each act of balancing is at odds with the other side, therefore there is no differentiation between peacemaker and the opposite side when balance is being restored.
Only another peacemaker, will truly understand
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Post by kyloscythe91 on Dec 8, 2018 10:20:06 GMT
I've been always wanted to be a peacemaker (not the gun; I understand a peacemaker as a human whose intentions are directly to make peace between struggling sides of a conflict, or to calm involved into the conflict sides down). They say being too altruistic is stupid and worthless; all altruists achieve nothing, they just loose. So, why is it so hard to be a peacemaker? Why people hates peacemakers? I really can't get a society hating the peacemakers. I've always wanted to see peace too...I believe if we become like gods, we should rule with a humble universe which I think is more powerful and the larger universe to rule with meaning with more things and amount. I'm sure there are true dark arts that can only help in some of it and all that but I know peace and civility is the better and bigger way.
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Post by Brythonic Warrior on Dec 8, 2018 12:01:51 GMT
War is eternal and immortal. Peace is a temporary phase of existence.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Dec 8, 2018 14:52:23 GMT
War is eternal and immortal. Peace is a temporary phase of existence. o yeah? what about someone's death? if the 1 dies, he dies for eternity. and the last one eternity is peaceful eternity.
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