PISTON1246
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Post by PISTON1246 on Oct 31, 2018 23:08:34 GMT
www.freenation.org/a/f12l3.htmlDo you think healthcare costs more than necessary today? A ride on the ambulance and a breathing treatment could cost over $1000. Does it cost even half that much to provide this service? I think the breathing machine is usable more than one time, so I think you can distribute a fee for it over multiple people/uses and electricity. Then there is the cost for the liquid solution used for the treatment. A gallon of diesel to go, let's say 12 miles city driving, costs $4.
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Post by fusillialdente on Nov 1, 2018 12:23:32 GMT
There is, definitely, a spread. I don’t think they are responsible for all of it, but there are a few factors I can see that were not mentioned in your post.
(1) Risk. Capital was invested in the health business and return is not sure. How to mitigate that? Insurance, especially when it is offered by the health company (don’t know if that happens in your country, but it does in mine). It means sure and periodic pay for the company, minimizing the risks.
Beyond that, ambulances can cause big time damage. Who is going to pay for that? The company. More risk.
(2) Legal incertanty and costs. Big problem in my country. You have to account, on the price, for the costs of litigation.
(3) Offer and demand. If you negociate the prices by yourself, you are only one person. They do not care so much if you are not going to close the deal with them. Solution? Probably insurance or associations. That way, you are not just one costumer: you are a bunch of them. Depending on the size of the organization, health companies can’t really afford to lose it.
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PISTON1246
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Post by PISTON1246 on Nov 2, 2018 0:16:27 GMT
I have been to one hospital that I assume is private that said they would do a physical for about $35 upfront with me paying and not an insurance company.
What does the average hospital charge for a physical?
My understanding with the affordable care act is that you are forced by the government to get an insurance policy. If you are required to pay for insurance and you don't use it for what it is supposed to cover ( the hospital), then you are funding insurance for nothing.
Where does this money go? Do you have a choice in who it funds?
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Post by jonbain on Nov 3, 2018 15:03:26 GMT
www.freenation.org/a/f12l3.htmlDo you think healthcare costs more than necessary today? A ride on the ambulance and a breathing treatment could cost over $1000. Does it cost even half that much to provide this service? I think the breathing machine is usable more than one time, so I think you can distribute a fee for it over multiple people/uses and electricity. Then there is the cost for the liquid solution used for the treatment. A gallon of diesel to go, let's say 12 miles city driving, costs $4. It never ceases to amaze me how ridiculous the medical shenanigan is. Most of it is really unnecessary, if not superstition and scam. The idea of this monolithic bureaucracy "for everybody" is really just a cover-up for monopolization. Which means as the monopoly gets more powerful, then the more pervasive corruption will get. Politicians rely on fears and ignorance to perpetuate this crony-capitalism. Coercing people to take medicine with mob mentality is the hallmark of tyranny. The immune system really should be able to fight off almost anything. Most medical problems are due to poor diet or lack of exercise. But this requires willpower. I had a friend who died in her late 90's and had been a medical doctor since ww2, and she reckoned that 80% of her patients really just required a psychologist. The problem is that psychology is 80% useless, and a fair amount of psychological problems result from existential fears. So they really need a philosopher just as readily. The society we are in seems to be advancing due to technology which was the result of science from previous generations. This hubris causes a lazy decay of the mind where basic points of reason just don't seem to effect the way people think. But I recommend doing a search on your symptoms with the word 'diet' and trying that as a first and virtually free remedy. If you cannot stick to a diet, then you have a psychological attachment to toxic food. That is not an easy problem to solve. |
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