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Oct 26, 2018 12:38:51 GMT
Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2018 12:38:51 GMT
Just imagine I open a thread "A proof there's no God". ME: There's no God. DKTRAV: What's your proof? ME: I try to ignore stupid questions. Victory and glory!
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Mar 29, 2019 18:34:56 GMT
Post by greatestiam on Mar 29, 2019 18:34:56 GMT
You have no clue and repetition of idiocy just make you look like an idiot.
Commands and penalties reach havoc on free unencumbered free will.
Get better or get lost.
Regards DL
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Post by Elizabeth on Mar 29, 2019 18:34:58 GMT
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Matthew 7:18 A good God somehow produced Satan, which some think of as evil.
It seems a good tree can produce a corrupt fruit.
Regards DL
God created an angel. The angel had free will. If your son rejects your teachings and then kills you then you made him evil? Not how it works. You make yourself evil.
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Mar 29, 2019 18:39:24 GMT
Post by greatestiam on Mar 29, 2019 18:39:24 GMT
A good God somehow produced Satan, which some think of as evil.
It seems a good tree can produce a corrupt fruit.
Regards DL
God created an angel. The angel had free will. If your son rejects your teachings and then kills you then you made him evil? Not how it works. You make yourself evil. All after your "God created" is a lie.
But if you want to think an all knowing god did not know what he was doing and the repercussions from his not knowing what they would be, go ahead, but then you would have to see that God is either a really poor planner or just not all knowing and incompetent.
Regards DL
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Mar 29, 2019 18:39:50 GMT
Post by Elizabeth on Mar 29, 2019 18:39:50 GMT
But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God, thou shalt find him, if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul. Deuteronomy 4:29 Seeking God is good and that is why Gnostic Christians are perpetual seekers.
You cannot be seeking god when you already idol worship Yahweh.
Regards DL
Yaweh is God. Everything else is an idol. If you worship God only then you're not idolizing. If you worshop anything else then you're an idolizer. Idols are fake gods, statues, etc.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Mar 29, 2019 18:51:39 GMT
You have no clue and repetition of idiocy just make you look like an idiot. Commands and penalties reach havoc on free unencumbered free will. Get better or get lost. Regards DL I have to keep repeating myself because you simply don’t recognize that you are arguing against something I do not believe is true and after I tell you what you’re saying I believe isn’t what I believe you continue to tell me what you’re telling me I believe is what I believe. Simplified: YOU: You believe x ME: No I believe y YOU: No you believe x and x is a prick ME: No I believe y, I don’t believe x YOU: You’re a hypocrite and an idiot ME: This is funny YOU: Get on my level, you’re an idiot, get lost
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Mar 29, 2019 18:51:48 GMT
Post by Elizabeth on Mar 29, 2019 18:51:48 GMT
God created an angel. The angel had free will. If your son rejects your teachings and then kills you then you made him evil? Not how it works. You make yourself evil. All after your "God created" is a lie.
But if you want to think an all knowing god did not know what he was doing and the repercussions from his not knowing what they would be, go ahead, but then you would have to see that God is either a really poor planner or just not all knowing and incompetent.
Regards DL
A lie according to a standard of a human or a group of humans? That doesn't establish anything as a lie. The only way humans can establish anything is to go to the very very beginning. And they can't. Yeah, God knew what He was doing. He made people with free will. Or did you wish to be forced to follow Him? Wouldn't be very nice now for you will it? Don't try to make someone controlling, evil, and one who doesn't give free will. You're wanting a monster of a god there. Satan is the one to qualify closest to that.
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Post by greatestiam on Apr 10, 2019 12:40:19 GMT
This verse is an example not to worship angels, saints in heaven, or anything in the sky. Only God. And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; Deuteronomy 17:3 That shows an insecure and jealous god.
It also shows that only the weak and gullible minded who think we can be commanded to love and respect.
Regards DL
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Post by greatestiam on Apr 10, 2019 12:44:27 GMT
"Love your enemies" [Mathew 5/43 and Luke 6/27]
I see a contradiction here from what Jesus taught, in the sense that this goes against the Golden Rule, which is a reciprocity rule.
Reciprocity says to return like for like and that rule is Jesus' number one rule.
If your enemy hates you, you are to hate him back, otherwise, you are rewarding evil.
Regards DL
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Apr 10, 2019 21:12:50 GMT
Post by DKTrav88 on Apr 10, 2019 21:12:50 GMT
"Love your enemies" [Mathew 5/43 and Luke 6/27]
I see a contradiction here from what Jesus taught, in the sense that this goes against the Golden Rule, which is a reciprocity rule.
Reciprocity says to return like for like and that rule is Jesus' number one rule.
If your enemy hates you, you are to hate him back, otherwise, you are rewarding evil.
Regards DL
Hate is evil
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Apr 26, 2019 19:28:28 GMT
Post by Elizabeth on Apr 26, 2019 19:28:28 GMT
He did make them. Bible says everything that ever existed (like 10 commandments) was made through Him. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. John 1:3 That is what scriptures say, yes, for his pleasure, including evil.
Tell us what pleasure god gets from creating evil?
Regards DL
I keep telling you for a while now that the god you had in mind is not the real God. You kept referring to satan and satan isn't God God has no evil in Him. God is the opposite of evil. It's like hot and cold, east and west, north and south which are opposites. God and evil cannot mix together. Job 34:10 10 “Therefore listen to me, you men of understanding: Far be it from God to do wickedness, And from the Almighty to commit iniquity. Psalm 5:4 4 For You are not a God who takes pleasure in wickedness, Nor shall evil dwell with You.
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Apr 26, 2019 19:57:48 GMT
Post by greatestiam on Apr 26, 2019 19:57:48 GMT
That is what scriptures say, yes, for his pleasure, including evil.
Tell us what pleasure god gets from creating evil?
Regards DL
I keep telling you for a while now that the god you had in mind is not the real God. You kept referring to satan and satan isn't God God has no evil in Him. God is the opposite of evil. It's like hot and cold, east and west, north and south which are opposites. God and evil cannot mix together. Job 34:10 10 “Therefore listen to me, you men of understanding: Far be it from God to do wickedness, And from the Almighty to commit iniquity. Psalm 5:4 4 For You are not a God who takes pleasure in wickedness, Nor shall evil dwell with You. In the beginning, there was only god. All that is then emanated from god. All that is good and all that is evil. Evil was found in Satan even before the earth was formed. That is why your bible says that all that is was created by god, including evil. If you cannot follow that clear trail of information in your bible, you are way to stupid for me to bother with.
Get with it of goodbye. Please, at least, have the good manners to ignore me if you are that stupid.
Revelation 4:11 King James Version Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
Isaiah 45:7 King James Version I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
Regards DL
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Post by greatestiam on Apr 26, 2019 19:59:59 GMT
I have many, but one is in my signature. Another one If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha. 1 Corinthians 16:22 Have you ever analyzed the morals of the Jesus you love? Most Christians have not and do not want to and tend to run away when I ask them to. Care to engage?
Regards DL
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Apr 26, 2019 20:21:27 GMT
Post by Elizabeth on Apr 26, 2019 20:21:27 GMT
I keep telling you for a while now that the god you had in mind is not the real God. You kept referring to satan and satan isn't God God has no evil in Him. God is the opposite of evil. It's like hot and cold, east and west, north and south which are opposites. God and evil cannot mix together. Job 34:10 10 “Therefore listen to me, you men of understanding: Far be it from God to do wickedness, And from the Almighty to commit iniquity. Psalm 5:4 4 For You are not a God who takes pleasure in wickedness, Nor shall evil dwell with You. In the beginning, there was only god. All that is then emanated from god. All that is good and all that is evil. Evil was found in Satan even before the earth was formed. That is why your bible says that all that is was created by god, including evil. If you cannot follow that clear trail of information in your bible, you are way to stupid for me to bother with.
Get with it of goodbye. Please, at least, have the good manners to ignore me if you are that stupid.
Revelation 4:11 King James Version Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
Isaiah 45:7 King James Version I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
Regards DL
God made everything good! And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. Genesis 1:31 But He gave free will. With free will an angel himself became satan and bad. And with your free will you chose to be good or bad in your life.
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Apr 26, 2019 21:25:15 GMT
Post by greatestiam on Apr 26, 2019 21:25:15 GMT
So your quote automatically is better than mine. Ok
Now do you have the couth to ignore me?
Regards DL
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Apr 29, 2019 21:26:00 GMT
Post by greatestiam on Apr 29, 2019 21:26:00 GMT
And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. Luke 9:23
Do you read that as Jesus asking us to accept our responsibility for our sins?
If not, deny ourselves of what?
Regards DL
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