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Post by Elizabeth on Oct 28, 2018 21:39:26 GMT
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Oct 28, 2018 22:16:24 GMT
This guy explained it the best I think The members of Orthodoxy church don't celebrate this day. I think that it doesn't require an explanation. Halloween is to be a pagan holiday's event. Nothing useful there. But the wedding case where Christ was comes into my mind. He said that wanted to celebrate this day with new-married (? what is the right word? I forgot). How could He celebrate this day since the holiday was pagan? (Or was it?) I think that it is not an easy task to solve. That's why I always have something to explain my relation to any holidays. When I was younger (when I was just "Eugene"), I posted a thread (or I threaded a post...) about my hatred to holidays. I don't like any holidays, because they make my own schedule to be ruined. Some people have fun, while I feel sadness and loneliness - this is a pretty good description of any holiday. My holiday is a tender talk with each other. People must be kind to not to 'somebody', but for 'the one', for someone who's important to them. That's why I have a holiday each time I have a good conversation with someone who's important for me. |
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Post by Elizabeth on Oct 28, 2018 22:38:05 GMT
This guy explained it the best I think The members of Orthodoxy church don't celebrate this day. I think that it doesn't require an explanation. Halloween is to be a pagan holiday's event. Nothing useful there. But the wedding case where Christ was comes into my mind. He said that wanted to celebrate this day with new-married (? what is the right word? I forgot). How could He celebrate this day since the holiday was pagan? (Or was it?) I think that it is not an easy task to solve. That's why I always have something to explain my relation to any holidays. When I was younger (when I was just "Eugene"), I posted a thread (or I threaded a post...) about my hatred to holidays. I don't like any holidays, because they make my own schedule to be ruined. Some people have fun, while I feel sadness and loneliness - this is a pretty good description of any holiday. My holiday is a tender talk with each other. People must be kind to not to 'somebody', but for 'the one', for someone who's important to them. That's why I have a holiday each time I have a good conversation with someone who's important for me. What do you mean? Halloween wasn't mentioned in the bible. All that was mentioned is how God dislikes witches and things with black magic and stuff like that which is what halloween is all about. So Jesus would destroy anything halloweeny inside His church like He did with the sellers in NT. But yeah I don't bother much with holidays. The few holidays that I do celebrate are just days to celebrate God more and days to love people more. That's it Shrug |
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Post by DKTrav88 on Oct 29, 2018 0:17:58 GMT
The members of Orthodoxy church don't celebrate this day. I think that it doesn't require an explanation. Halloween is to be a pagan holiday's event. Nothing useful there. But the wedding case where Christ was comes into my mind. He said that wanted to celebrate this day with new-married (? what is the right word? I forgot). How could He celebrate this day since the holiday was pagan? (Or was it?) I think that it is not an easy task to solve. That's why I always have something to explain my relation to any holidays. When I was younger (when I was just "Eugene"), I posted a thread (or I threaded a post...) about my hatred to holidays. I don't like any holidays, because they make my own schedule to be ruined. Some people have fun, while I feel sadness and loneliness - this is a pretty good description of any holiday. My holiday is a tender talk with each other. People must be kind to not to 'somebody', but for 'the one', for someone who's important to them. That's why I have a holiday each time I have a good conversation with someone who's important for me. What do you mean? Halloween wasn't mentioned in the bible. All that was mentioned is how God dislikes witches and things with black magic and stuff like that which is what halloween is all about. So Jesus would destroy anything halloweeny inside His church like He did with the sellers in NT. But yeah I don't bother much with holidays. The few holidays that I do celebrate are just days to celebrate God more and days to love people more. That's it Shrug I think he's talking about "All Saints' Day" aka "All Souls' Day" or "All Hallows' Day", which is November 1st, but the Bible doesn't mention this day as a holiday either. It's a celebration of living and dead saints. It coincides with/replaces the Celtic festival of Samhain.. the same pagan holiday that the guy in the video talks about. The Bible says this, Ecclesiastes 9:5-6 5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. 6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun. and this, Deuteronomy 18:10-11 10 There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, 11 or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. We cannot communicate with the dead, that is what the Bible says. Those who do are mediums, who think they communicate with the dead, but they are actually communicating with demons. There is the story of king Saul, who asked a witch for counsel instead of the God, 1 Chronicles 10:13-14 13 So Saul died for his transgression which he committed against the Lord, even against the word of the Lord, which he kept not, and also for asking counsel of one that had a familiar spirit, to enquire of it; 14 And enquired not of the Lord: therefore he slew him, and turned the kingdom unto David the son of Jesse. Here it is in more detail, 1 Samuel 28:7-16 7 Then said Saul unto his servants, Seek me a woman that hath a familiar spirit, that I may go to her, and enquire of her. And his servants said to him, Behold, there is a woman that hath a familiar spirit at Endor. 8 And Saul disguised himself, and put on other raiment, and he went, and two men with him, and they came to the woman by night: and he said, I pray thee, divine unto me by the familiar spirit, and bring me him up, whom I shall name unto thee. 9 And the woman said unto him, Behold, thou knowest what Saul hath done, how he hath cut off those that have familiar spirits, and the wizards, out of the land: wherefore then layest thou a snare for my life, to cause me to die? 10 And Saul sware to her by the Lord, saying, As the Lord liveth, there shall no punishment happen to thee for this thing. 11 Then said the woman, Whom shall I bring up unto thee? And he said, Bring me up Samuel. 12 And when the woman saw Samuel, she cried with a loud voice: and the woman spake to Saul, saying, Why hast thou deceived me? for thou art Saul. 13 And the king said unto her, Be not afraid: for what sawest thou? And the woman said unto Saul, I saw gods ascending out of the earth. 14 And he said unto her, What form is he of? And she said, An old man cometh up; and he is covered with a mantle. And Saul perceived that it was Samuel, and he stooped with his face to the ground, and bowed himself. 15 And Samuel said to Saul, Why hast thou disquieted me, to bring me up? And Saul answered, I am sore distressed; for the Philistines make war against me, and God is departed from me, and answereth me no more, neither by prophets, nor by dreams: therefore I have called thee, that thou mayest make known unto me what I shall do. 16 Then said Samuel, Wherefore then dost thou ask of me, seeing the Lord is departed from thee, and is become thine enemy? God become Saul's enemy after doing this. We should avoid anyone who says they communicate with the dead, because those who do are not actually communicating with the dead, but with demons. This also includes praying to the dead, because, as the Bible says, "the dead know not any thing", so they cannot hear our prayers, so then if someone prays to a dead person, they are actually praying to demons. The Bible says the only mediator is Christ, 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Hebrews 8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. Hebrews 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel. Because He is the only one who can make intercession for us, Romans 8:34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. Jesus even says we should pray in His name to God, not to saints, John 16:23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you. Never, anywhere in the Bible does it say we should pray to anyone, living or dead, other than God. |
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Post by Elizabeth on Oct 29, 2018 2:11:46 GMT
What do you mean? Halloween wasn't mentioned in the bible. All that was mentioned is how God dislikes witches and things with black magic and stuff like that which is what halloween is all about. So Jesus would destroy anything halloweeny inside His church like He did with the sellers in NT. But yeah I don't bother much with holidays. The few holidays that I do celebrate are just days to celebrate God more and days to love people more. That's it Shrug I think he's talking about "All Saints' Day" aka "All Souls' Day" or "All Hallows' Day", which is November 1st, but the Bible doesn't mention this day as a holiday either. It's a celebration of living and dead saints. It coincides with/replaces the Celtic festival of Samhain.. the same pagan holiday that the guy in the video talks about. The Bible says this, Ecclesiastes 9:5-6 5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. 6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun. and this, Deuteronomy 18:10-11 10 There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, 11 or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. We cannot communicate with the dead, that is what the Bible says. Those who do are mediums, who think they communicate with the dead, but they are actually communicating with demons. There is the story of king Saul, who asked a witch for counsel instead of the God, 1 Chronicles 10:13-14 13 So Saul died for his transgression which he committed against the Lord, even against the word of the Lord, which he kept not, and also for asking counsel of one that had a familiar spirit, to enquire of it; 14 And enquired not of the Lord: therefore he slew him, and turned the kingdom unto David the son of Jesse. Here it is in more detail, 1 Samuel 28:7-16 7 Then said Saul unto his servants, Seek me a woman that hath a familiar spirit, that I may go to her, and enquire of her. And his servants said to him, Behold, there is a woman that hath a familiar spirit at Endor. 8 And Saul disguised himself, and put on other raiment, and he went, and two men with him, and they came to the woman by night: and he said, I pray thee, divine unto me by the familiar spirit, and bring me him up, whom I shall name unto thee. 9 And the woman said unto him, Behold, thou knowest what Saul hath done, how he hath cut off those that have familiar spirits, and the wizards, out of the land: wherefore then layest thou a snare for my life, to cause me to die? 10 And Saul sware to her by the Lord, saying, As the Lord liveth, there shall no punishment happen to thee for this thing. 11 Then said the woman, Whom shall I bring up unto thee? And he said, Bring me up Samuel. 12 And when the woman saw Samuel, she cried with a loud voice: and the woman spake to Saul, saying, Why hast thou deceived me? for thou art Saul. 13 And the king said unto her, Be not afraid: for what sawest thou? And the woman said unto Saul, I saw gods ascending out of the earth. 14 And he said unto her, What form is he of? And she said, An old man cometh up; and he is covered with a mantle. And Saul perceived that it was Samuel, and he stooped with his face to the ground, and bowed himself. 15 And Samuel said to Saul, Why hast thou disquieted me, to bring me up? And Saul answered, I am sore distressed; for the Philistines make war against me, and God is departed from me, and answereth me no more, neither by prophets, nor by dreams: therefore I have called thee, that thou mayest make known unto me what I shall do. 16 Then said Samuel, Wherefore then dost thou ask of me, seeing the Lord is departed from thee, and is become thine enemy? God become Saul's enemy after doing this. We should avoid anyone who says they communicate with the dead, because those who do are not actually communicating with the dead, but with demons. This also includes praying to the dead, because, as the Bible says, "the dead know not any thing", so they cannot hear our prayers, so then if someone prays to a dead person, they are actually praying to demons. The Bible says the only mediator is Christ, 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Hebrews 8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. Hebrews 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel. Because He is the only one who can make intercession for us, Romans 8:34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. Jesus even says we should pray in His name to God, not to saints, John 16:23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you. Never, anywhere in the Bible does it say we should pray to anyone, living or dead, other than God. Is that the same thing is the Day of the Dead celebrated in Mexico on November 1? But one of my Mexican teachers in the past said on Day of the Dead it is her day to drink blood. I assume she meant only animal but who knows. She says she likes to drink blood to celebrate the dead and to talk to them because the Day of the Dead is the best day to do it. She said that's when the spirits are more active because called upon the most then and on Oct. 31 Shrug Scary.... |
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Post by DKTrav88 on Oct 29, 2018 3:18:34 GMT
I think he's talking about "All Saints' Day" aka "All Souls' Day" or "All Hallows' Day", which is November 1st, but the Bible doesn't mention this day as a holiday either. It's a celebration of living and dead saints. It coincides with/replaces the Celtic festival of Samhain.. the same pagan holiday that the guy in the video talks about. The Bible says this, Ecclesiastes 9:5-6 5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. 6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun. and this, Deuteronomy 18:10-11 10 There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, 11 or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. We cannot communicate with the dead, that is what the Bible says. Those who do are mediums, who think they communicate with the dead, but they are actually communicating with demons. There is the story of king Saul, who asked a witch for counsel instead of the God, 1 Chronicles 10:13-14 13 So Saul died for his transgression which he committed against the Lord, even against the word of the Lord, which he kept not, and also for asking counsel of one that had a familiar spirit, to enquire of it; 14 And enquired not of the Lord: therefore he slew him, and turned the kingdom unto David the son of Jesse. Here it is in more detail, 1 Samuel 28:7-16 7 Then said Saul unto his servants, Seek me a woman that hath a familiar spirit, that I may go to her, and enquire of her. And his servants said to him, Behold, there is a woman that hath a familiar spirit at Endor. 8 And Saul disguised himself, and put on other raiment, and he went, and two men with him, and they came to the woman by night: and he said, I pray thee, divine unto me by the familiar spirit, and bring me him up, whom I shall name unto thee. 9 And the woman said unto him, Behold, thou knowest what Saul hath done, how he hath cut off those that have familiar spirits, and the wizards, out of the land: wherefore then layest thou a snare for my life, to cause me to die? 10 And Saul sware to her by the Lord, saying, As the Lord liveth, there shall no punishment happen to thee for this thing. 11 Then said the woman, Whom shall I bring up unto thee? And he said, Bring me up Samuel. 12 And when the woman saw Samuel, she cried with a loud voice: and the woman spake to Saul, saying, Why hast thou deceived me? for thou art Saul. 13 And the king said unto her, Be not afraid: for what sawest thou? And the woman said unto Saul, I saw gods ascending out of the earth. 14 And he said unto her, What form is he of? And she said, An old man cometh up; and he is covered with a mantle. And Saul perceived that it was Samuel, and he stooped with his face to the ground, and bowed himself. 15 And Samuel said to Saul, Why hast thou disquieted me, to bring me up? And Saul answered, I am sore distressed; for the Philistines make war against me, and God is departed from me, and answereth me no more, neither by prophets, nor by dreams: therefore I have called thee, that thou mayest make known unto me what I shall do. 16 Then said Samuel, Wherefore then dost thou ask of me, seeing the Lord is departed from thee, and is become thine enemy? God become Saul's enemy after doing this. We should avoid anyone who says they communicate with the dead, because those who do are not actually communicating with the dead, but with demons. This also includes praying to the dead, because, as the Bible says, "the dead know not any thing", so they cannot hear our prayers, so then if someone prays to a dead person, they are actually praying to demons. The Bible says the only mediator is Christ, 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Hebrews 8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. Hebrews 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel. Because He is the only one who can make intercession for us, Romans 8:34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. Jesus even says we should pray in His name to God, not to saints, John 16:23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you. Never, anywhere in the Bible does it say we should pray to anyone, living or dead, other than God. Is that the same thing is the Day of the Dead celebrated in Mexico on November 1? But one of my Mexican teachers in the past said on Day of the Dead it is her day to drink blood. I assume she meant only animal but who knows. She says she likes to drink blood to celebrate the dead and to talk to them because the Day of the Dead is the best day to do it. She said that's when the spirits are more active because called upon the most then and on Oct. 31 Shrug Scary.... The Day of the Dead in Mexico was originally an Aztec festival which was dedicated to their death-goddess Mictecacihuatl, or "Lady of the Dead", where they honored the dead, but it was celebrated in the summer. After the Spanish "colonization" of Mexico, it has slowly been moved to being celebrated when it is celebrated now along with adopting the aspects of Samhain/All Saints' Day. Essentially, now, it is the same thing as All Saints' Day. Although, the Aztecs were known for their human sacrifices just as the druids of the Celts were when celebrating Samhain, so there may be some resemblance. I'm not exactly sure what was conducted during the festivals the Aztecs had, but it wouldn't surprise me if they did do human sacrifices as that was part of their many evil traditions. During the Day of the Dead celebration in Mexico, people go to cemeteries to be with the souls of the dead. They build private altars containing goods as well as photos and memorabilia of the dead: the intent is to encourage visits by their souls, so their souls will hear the prayers and the comments of the living directed to them. Some families will build altars or shrines in their homes featuring a cross and a statue of Mary, as well as pictures and other memorabilia(this sounds an awfully lot like what the orthodox and catholics do in general). As far as drinking blood... I've haven't seen that anywhere in relation to the Day of the Dead, but some pagan traditions, Satanism, a few Native American and voodoo traditions practice this, and in some cases actual human blood. |
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Post by Διαμονδ on Oct 29, 2018 8:53:19 GMT
This guy explained it the best I think The members of Orthodoxy church don't celebrate this day. I think that it doesn't require an explanation. Halloween is to be a pagan holiday's event. Nothing useful there. But the wedding case where Christ was comes into my mind. He said that wanted to celebrate this day with new-married (? what is the right word? I forgot). How could He celebrate this day since the holiday was pagan? (Or was it?) I think that it is not an easy task to solve. That's why I always have something to explain my relation to any holidays. When I was younger (when I was just "Eugene"), I posted a thread (or I threaded a post...) about my hatred to holidays. I don't like any holidays, because they make my own schedule to be ruined. Some people have fun, while I feel sadness and loneliness - this is a pretty good description of any holiday. My holiday is a tender talk with each other. People must be kind to not to 'somebody', but for 'the one', for someone who's important to them. That's why I have a holiday each time I have a good conversation with someone who's important for me. About the new-married this is just allegorical name of the Church of Christ. There's nothing pagan here, just a Biblical Church term. |
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Post by Διαμονδ on Oct 29, 2018 9:30:28 GMT
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Oct 29, 2018 18:44:46 GMT
ElizabethDKTrav88ΔιαμονδNot exactly. Thank you all, but I think you understand me a slightly unclear. 1. The Jewish wedding had its features. Many folks around the world do (and did) the wedding ritual. We can say - being absolutely sure - that even if all the weddings were celebrated around the world in any culture, all those weddings had their features. 2. The features of wedding (I am not really interested in kinds of features of the wedding we're talking) have always their origins. We can't deny that a wedding ritual was appeared from nothing. Each a wedding has its origins. 3. Before Christianity there were no Christian features. Yes, we can say that many elements were before Christianity and they were similar to it, but, hey, there were no Christianity before Christ, weren't it? That's why before Christ was something, but not Christianity. 4. Christ established the new religion. Many ecclesias say who is Christ as a leader of the cult. One part says He created such-and-such religion, and the rest says an opposite. Despite of what they are saying, we can agree with the statement that that new religion was something different than the others. Surely, we could deny this new abilities, new features, but it would be not the path of theistic talk, but atheist's one. (As long as we're talking about Christianity as the religion, a special one, we are theist now.) 5. This new religion was against the present (for those times) bad sides... well, it was against, you know, ...bad behaviour (?) (I must give up here, because sometimes it's not easy to start explaining not being good in some terms. So, I call for common understanding here, please.) ...It was against the previous religions. (This thesis is a logical derivation from #4.) 6. The previous religions had many bad sides (this thought derives from the #5). Christ were fighting with phariseas', saddukeas' teachings. And also Christ did what He did like to visit the Jewish church (Synagogue), He visited his friends, went fishing... He was a man of his time. 7. (Bringing back to the wedding.) The wedding is something different than 'go fishing', but it has some similarities = it is a human work for living, it is some kind of social relationship, etc. The wedding differs with the some other social actions (? I don't know how to name it correctly) in its ritualistic manner. Go fishing might have some rituals, but it might not have, while the wedding is a strongly ritual action. There's no need to arrange wedding, but it's obvious that the go fishing requires some arrangements (some tools, some materials). 8. All the such ritualistic forms as a wedding are traditional forms. I think it doesn't need to be explained. The rituals which are similar to the wedding are too typical for each country, for each nationality, for each culture. The wedding is something purely wonderful as example to a culturologist, or a historian to study this ritual as good example to understand traditions of the culture (or the nation...). 9. Christ visited the wedding and stayed glad and happy. I think you can find this examples in the John's book. Christ was not just a guest, He did the miracle. So, it was important to Him to be there. And, it's also needed to be added, that the wedding wasn't just one and only such place that was visited by Christ. 10. Christ presented himself on the ritual, that is a part of the tradition. (It is derived from the previous sentences.) 11. Divine presentation on the ritual means a lot. We can say that the visit allows us to suppose that some rituals (aka the traditional forms) were very good. And we can say that it's automatically verifying many others traditions (because there were no very special on the Jewish wedding.) 12. Christ has showed us that some of the traditions are good.
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Post by Elizabeth on Oct 29, 2018 18:57:25 GMT
I have nothing against weddings. God made man and woman to get married to become one. So He would totally support that and attend such weddings. I doubt He would attend any other wedding that's not man and woman unless to try to stop it or use it as an example in why such cannot enter heaven. So God sticks to the traditional man and woman wedding. |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Oct 29, 2018 18:58:17 GMT
ΔιαμονδA small Church of Christ. I think that this example brilliantly shows us all the magnificent power of the traditions and Christianity. Christianity has never been breaking the Traditions. Anything that breaks the Traditions is not Christianity at all. Christ has showed us that He followed some traditions. It was a sing to us, that the church what continues to follow the Traditions would be the one and the only right Church among the other ones. The Orthodoxy is started on those wedding where Christ was (the book of John). Today we have too many problems with all those SJW and many others brainless creatures. They've lost traditions, they've started to read and understand, but it has not given them something; they haven't come close to Christ. The Orthodoxy seems to be the last one citadel of the true Christ's followers...
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Oct 29, 2018 19:04:22 GMT
I have nothing against weddings. God made man and woman to get married to become one. So He would totally support that and attend such weddings. I doubt He would attend any other wedding that's not man and woman unless to try to stop it or use it as an example in why such cannot enter heaven. So God sticks to the traditional man and woman wedding. It is good that some protestant is thinking so. I think that there are some churches in East and West that are the last one citadel of the Christ teachings... The Traditions are not the last one and the only, but some of them shows us that some typical actions we have to hold. I don't think that Christ held just Jewish traditions, or all the traditions in the world, but He was directly against all those 'Babylon mess' as we can see today. |
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Post by Elizabeth on Oct 29, 2018 19:19:05 GMT
I have nothing against weddings. God made man and woman to get married to become one. So He would totally support that and attend such weddings. I doubt He would attend any other wedding that's not man and woman unless to try to stop it or use it as an example in why such cannot enter heaven. So God sticks to the traditional man and woman wedding. It is good that some protestant is thinking so. I think that there are some churches in East and West that are the last one citadel of the Christ teachings... The Traditions are not the last one and the only, but some of them shows us that some typical actions we have to hold. I don't think that Christ held just Jewish traditions, or all the traditions in the world, but He was directly against all those 'Babylon mess' as we can see today. The difference here is that I think you're calling it a tradition which is something humans make through time. I don't call it a tradition but a commandment that God made from the moment He made Adam and Eve. Jesus also didn't like traditions so was speaking against them to Pharisees because they followed traditions they invented. Shrug In the near future I wouldn't be surprised if homosexual weddings become part of tradition. They are slowly becoming accepted as part of the norm. So one day just marrying any human will be a traditional wedding I bet. The people who married the Great Wall of China, the Eiffel Tower, the guy who married a snake, and the people who married themselves might need to wait a bit longer to be accepted as traditional. Unless marrying oneself will be part of marrying a human and accepted faster as traditional. I don't know  |
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Post by Διαμονδ on Oct 29, 2018 19:35:57 GMT
It is good that some protestant is thinking so. I think that there are some churches in East and West that are the last one citadel of the Christ teachings... The Traditions are not the last one and the only, but some of them shows us that some typical actions we have to hold. I don't think that Christ held just Jewish traditions, or all the traditions in the world, but He was directly against all those 'Babylon mess' as we can see today. The difference here is that I think you're calling it a tradition which is something humans make through time. I don't call it a tradition but a commandment that God made from the moment He made Adam and Eve. Jesus also didn't like traditions so was speaking against them to Pharisees because they followed traditions they invented.  In the near future I wouldn't be surprised if homosexual weddings become part of tradition. They are slowly becoming accepted as part of the norm. So one day just marrying any human will be a traditional wedding I bet. The people who married the Great Wall of China, the Eiffel Tower, the guy who married a snake, and the people who married themselves might need to wait a bit longer to be accepted as traditional. Unless marrying oneself will be part of marrying a human and accepted faster as traditional. I don't know well, some liberal Protestants do that.. of course, this is the result of abandoning Christian traditions and history! facepalm |
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Post by Elizabeth on Oct 29, 2018 19:38:23 GMT
The difference here is that I think you're calling it a tradition which is something humans make through time. I don't call it a tradition but a commandment that God made from the moment He made Adam and Eve. Jesus also didn't like traditions so was speaking against them to Pharisees because they followed traditions they invented. In the near future I wouldn't be surprised if homosexual weddings become part of tradition. They are slowly becoming accepted as part of the norm. So one day just marrying any human will be a traditional wedding I bet. The people who married the Great Wall of China, the Eiffel Tower, the guy who married a snake, and the people who married themselves might need to wait a bit longer to be accepted as traditional. Unless marrying oneself will be part of marrying a human and accepted faster as traditional. I don't know well, some liberal Protestants do that.. of course, this is the result of abandoning Christian traditions and history! facepalm Well, this is what Paul meant when many churches departed from the faith. They make up their own stuff to follow. Happened all through history as Paul said. Shrug |
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