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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2018 11:47:31 GMT
TIGHT SLAP FOR INDIAN NATIONALIS, KEEP ON DENYING, but Once, these STEPPE people did come to your lands, and they were BRUTAL PEOPLE
The current distribution of the M17 haplotype is likely to represent traces of an ancient population migration originating in southern Russia/Ukraine, where M17 is found at high frequency (>50%). It is possible that the domestication of the horse in this region around 3,000 B.C. may have driven the migration (27). The distribution and age of M17 in Europe (17) and Central/Southern Asia is consistent with the inferred movements of these people, who left a clear pattern of archaeological remains known as the Kurgan culture, and are thought to have spoken an early Indo-European language (27, 28, 29). The decrease in frequency eastward across Siberia to the Altai-Sayan mountains (represented by the Tuvinian population) and Mongolia, and southward into India, overlaps exactly with the inferred migrations of the Indo-Iranians during the period 3,000 to 1,000 B.C. (27). It is worth noting that the Indo-European-speaking Sourashtrans, a population from Tamil Nadu in southern India, have a much higher frequency of M17 than their Dravidian-speaking neighbors, the Yadhavas and Kallars (39% vs. 13% and 4%, respectively), adding to the evidence that M17 is a diagnostic Indo-Iranian marker. The exceptionally high frequencies of this marker in the Kyrgyz, Tajik/Khojant, and Ishkashim populations are likely to be due to drift, as these populations are less diverse, and are characterized by relatively small numbers of individuals living in isolated mountain valleys.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 10:39:57 GMT
//As Max Mueller stated, you just have mistaken the linguistic group for a race. In fact many migrations have come from the caucasian peoples as well to India and they were all admitted into the fold of the Aryan culture/religion or Sanatana Dharma/Eternal religion.//
You are talking about post rig vedic things. max mueller had to retreat from his earlier statements of race, because he was facing backlash from the colonial elites, who wanted to control the india by doing bureacruacy. most of them were brahmin castes only, who denied this aryan invasion just to show a superficial india, forgetting that some of the caste brahmins actually were considered by brits and anglo saxons as not only their peers, but their blood brothers, and there was no snatching away of lands from these old indo european caste brahmins.
AS a matter of fact, caste brahmin is indigeneous to india, especially , from the gangetic belts. Most of the brahmins are mountain indid in their phentohype, from the hindu kush mountains, check it. There clearly are evidences of the foreign aryan people, and the dravidian gangetic priests and their suboridnate, the caste kshatriyas, having a tussle with each other.
What happened, was that some of the vedic tribes broke the norm or rule of sapta sindhava to not go towards the ganga river valleys. And they borrowed this indigeneous priesthood of manu dharma and tried to rule the ganga valleys by introducing their functions, but the imperial expansions of these foreign aryan people was completely hijacked by the dravidian brahminical priests. NOTE: DRAVIDA IS NO TAMIL NATIONALISM OF TODAY'S, IT WAS A PRIESTLY CLASS CULTURE.
After this, lot of these andornovo sintastha central asian phenotypes were either persecuted, got race mixed, or they left towards region of subcontinent, like maharasthra, magadha and bengal etc, but to say that aryans are indigeneous and cultural to india is outlandish and naive, because, there was no india, actually.
It was RSS who tried to show aryans as indigeneous to India, and their whims have gone to this extent that they want to make sanskrit, a dead language, a national language of India, where as, half of Indias are yet to receive proper education.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 10:43:00 GMT
And what people would say on this? Yes, the only way out of this is to say that this is false, but why would someone even make such a claim, without proving it? To say that there were no aryans, aryan never came to india, indigeneous to india, cultural etc is outlandish. Aryan may have become cultural, because they came 3500 years back, a time frame in which world gets changed, but don't try to alter or hijack history, because you will be confused. Knowing correct history is more important than trying to prove something which is wrong. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Arctic_Home_in_the_Vedas
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Dec 14, 2018 10:46:47 GMT
Which side in your politics claims that there was no Aryan migration to India? The evidence that there was an invasion or migration is overwhelming. The only reason to deny this is for some weird political reason.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 12:25:24 GMT
Which side in your politics claims that there was no Aryan migration to India? The evidence that there was an invasion or migration is overwhelming. The only reason to deny this is for some weird political reason.
This hindutva nationalism, who keep on denying. Ever since, max mueller had made the statement, the entire harnizos and mestizzos of the subcontinent have been saying that they are oldest civilization on this planet.
The problem in india is there is no race and ethnicity, but rather castes, which anyways have become a tool of politics now. I don't understand that how castes and ethnicitiy or ancestry of person are even related in today;s time.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 13:45:45 GMT
//they were all admitted into the fold of the Aryan culture/religion or Sanatana Dharma/Eternal religion.////
we all know how much 'ACCOMODATING' the indian caste system is. It is the most brutal system of apartheid, where it is assumed to be inherited.
elites will control the laws, and lower castes will be made to suffer.
So much for the so called accomodation.
Indians are worst racist on this planet, though they cry for racism from others.
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