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Post by Elizabeth on Oct 11, 2018 4:48:33 GMT
How is marriage like dear married people like lamburk fschmidt @mrblack and others here)? I hope you two are working as a team. I personally wouldn't marry anyone not agreeing to do that because it won't work. Shrug
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2018 6:58:43 GMT
How is marriage like dear married people like lamburk fschmidt @mrblack and others here)? I hope you two are working as a team. I personally wouldn't marry anyone not agreeing to do that because it won't work. Marriage has its ups and downs. You just have to be patient and ride out the bumps.
I married a Beijing girl in 1992. We're still together so I guess we make a good team.
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Post by Elizabeth on Oct 11, 2018 17:13:49 GMT
How is marriage like dear married people like lamburk fschmidt @mrblack and others here)? I hope you two are working as a team. I personally wouldn't marry anyone not agreeing to do that because it won't work. Marriage has its ups and downs. You just have to be patient and ride out the bumps. I married a Beijing girl in 1992. We're still together so I guess we make a good team.
I thought you were a teen or early 20s with how hard you debate. Turns out you're older than me since I'm like the age of your marriage almost facepalm So you two lived in different countries as you're making her seem foreign?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2018 17:57:45 GMT
For a marriage, at least for a long lasting one. One must adhere to a traditional hierarchy in the Family. God > Jesus (and/or Nature) > Man > Woman > Children. Also, not to mention clear communication. Also, never expect anything from your wife except loyalty and for her to embrace motherhood. But in general, you should never expect or want anything from a woman, other than those things. The last four things to put into a marriage and your everyday conduct are as follows: Honour, Strength, Loyalty, and Faith.
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Post by Elizabeth on Oct 11, 2018 18:06:24 GMT
For a marriage, at least for a long lasting one. One must adhere to a traditional hierarchy in the Family. God > Jesus (and/or Nature) > Man > Woman > Children. Also, not to mention clear communication. Also, never expect anything from your wife except loyalty and for her to embrace motherhood. But in general, you should never expect or want anything from a woman, other than those things. The last four things to put into a marriage and your everyday conduct are as follows: Honour, Strength, Loyalty, and Faith. What do you mean by nature? Like people playing the gender they were born with? No trans and stuff?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 1:24:40 GMT
Marriage has its ups and downs. You just have to be patient and ride out the bumps. I married a Beijing girl in 1992. We're still together so I guess we make a good team.
I thought you were a teen or early 20s with how hard you debate. Turns out you're older than me since I'm like the age of your marriage almost So you two lived in different countries as you're making her seem foreign? No, no. She emigrated to Sydney a bit earlier.
I like to say that we have an Olympic Games connection. I was born in Greece, the home of the games, and Athens hosted in 2004. My (current and long time) home city of Sydney hosted in 2000. Beijing (my wife's previous home city) hosted in 2008.
With that connection to the games, we must be a good team, right?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 1:34:09 GMT
For a marriage, at least for a long lasting one. One must adhere to a traditional hierarchy in the Family. God > Jesus (and/or Nature) > Man > Woman > Children. Don't be silly. What you need is mutual respect and equality in decision making between the two of you. It has nothing to do with a non-existent God or a mythical Jesus. There is no hierarchy to adhere to.
My wife has had her own career (currently in real estate) and I am fine with it. I support her fully. The idea that women are only there or mainly there for motherhood is frankly old-fashioned and demeaning to the aspirations of women.
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Post by fschmidt on Oct 12, 2018 1:37:50 GMT
I guess I beat mrblack by 2 years, I married in 1990. My wife is from Mexico. I follow the Old Testament, not the New Testament, so I have no concept of wives being submissive. Rebecca, in the Old Testament, was not submissive at all. The basic Old Testament idea seems to be a team with complementary roles. This seems to have worked for us.
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Post by Elizabeth on Oct 12, 2018 1:54:31 GMT
You two members here are fairly similar hmm
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 2:24:51 GMT
For a marriage, at least for a long lasting one. One must adhere to a traditional hierarchy in the Family. God > Jesus (and/or Nature) > Man > Woman > Children. Also, not to mention clear communication. Also, never expect anything from your wife except loyalty and for her to embrace motherhood. But in general, you should never expect or want anything from a woman, other than those things. The last four things to put into a marriage and your everyday conduct are as follows: Honour, Strength, Loyalty, and Faith. What do you mean by nature? Like people playing the gender they were born with? No trans and stuff? What i mean by that is the World in general, like actually nature. For we are born in and from nature. Nature is God's domain on Earth, I personally like to believe.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 2:43:06 GMT
I guess I beat mrblack by 2 years, I married in 1990. My wife is from Mexico. I follow the Old Testament, not the New Testament, so I have no concept of wives being submissive. Rebecca, in the Old Testament, was not submissive at all. The basic Old Testament idea seems to be a team with complementary roles. This seems to have worked for us. You honestly don't even have to look in the Bible for examples. You can look at the nature and psychology of women, they love a strong, dominate man. They can't stand weak, sissified "men." Also, women are naturally are submissive, that's how they were created (or evolved depending upon the stance.) However, I do agree with you on one thing, women can be very feisty beings, but they are still God's gifts to us, and we should treat them as such.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 5:40:07 GMT
I guess I beat mrblack by 2 years, I married in 1990. My wife is from Mexico. I follow the Old Testament, not the New Testament, so I have no concept of wives being submissive. Rebecca, in the Old Testament, was not submissive at all. The basic Old Testament idea seems to be a team with complementary roles. This seems to have worked for us. You honestly don't even have to look in the Bible for examples. You can look at the nature and psychology of women, they love a strong, dominate man. They can't stand weak, sissified "men." Also, women are naturally are submissive, that's how they were created (or evolved depending upon the stance.) However, I do agree with you on one thing, women can be very feisty beings, but they are still God's gifts to us, and we should treat them as such. Wow, just wow. There are probably a few "submissive" women around. Good luck with finding them though. I suspect that you are in for a rude awakening instead as you go about your search. Perhaps you could try an Amish community?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 5:21:27 GMT
For a marriage, at least for a long lasting one. One must adhere to a traditional hierarchy in the Family. God > Jesus (and/or Nature) > Man > Woman > Children. Don't be silly. What you need is mutual respect and equality in decision making between the two of you. It has nothing to do with a non-existent God or a mythical Jesus. There is no hierarchy to adhere to.
My wife has had her own career (currently in real estate) and I am fine with it. I support her fully. The idea that women are only there or mainly there for motherhood is frankly old-fashioned and demeaning to the aspirations of women. I do agree with the mutual respect, as well as respect for the roles in the relationship. The husband as the head, provider, and protector of the family. The wife as the homemaker and raiser of the children. When it comes to the decision-making, it depends upon the decision really. When it comes the the religion aspect, it does have a lot to do with it. Granted, you are a person without a God, but I use the Bible as the basis for (most) of my morals.| When it comes to her own career, traditional women tend not to be concerned with that. They are concerned with raising a family. I would want her to get an education, just in case if I were to somehow get permanently put out of work. Also, I am a hardcore Traditionalist, traditionalism has done our ancestors much good, they toiled away for hundreds of years to come to the conclusion that the traditional family structure is the best way to go. Since men are stronger, can handle more stress, and are less emotional than women. They are the best resource gatherers. With women, they are naturally more emotional, nurturing, and fair than men. They make the best homemakers and mother. Our traits balance out each other. Being old-fashioned is the best thing to be. Edit: Sorry for the late reply. I've been busy working.
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Post by Elizabeth on Oct 14, 2018 5:27:13 GMT
Don't be silly. What you need is mutual respect and equality in decision making between the two of you. It has nothing to do with a non-existent God or a mythical Jesus. There is no hierarchy to adhere to.
My wife has had her own career (currently in real estate) and I am fine with it. I support her fully. The idea that women are only there or mainly there for motherhood is frankly old-fashioned and demeaning to the aspirations of women. I do agree with the mutual respect, as well as respect for the roles in the relationship. The husband as the head, provider, and protector of the family. The wife as the homemaker and raiser of the children. When it comes to the decision-making, it depends upon the decision really. When it comes the the religion aspect, it does have a lot to do with it. Granted, you are a person without a God, but I use the Bible as the basis for (most) of my morals.| When it comes to her own career, traditional women tend not to be concerned with that. They are concerned with raising a family. I would want her to get an education, just in case if I were to somehow get permanently put out of work. Also, I am a hardcore Traditionalist, traditionalism has done our ancestors much good, they toiled away for hundreds of years to come to the conclusion that the traditional family structure is the best way to go. Since men are stronger, can handle more stress, and are less emotional than women. They are the best resource gatherers. With women, they are naturally more emotional, nurturing, and fair than men. They make the best homemakers and mother. Our traits balance out each other. Being old-fashioned is the best thing to be. So do you think if you were to put out of work the roles would slightly change. As in she'd have to work to provide and you'd be the homemaker and raiser of children? Not complete role change but a bit of adjustment due to external issues.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 8:27:27 GMT
I do agree with the mutual respect, as well as respect for the roles in the relationship. The husband as the head, provider, and protector of the family. The wife as the homemaker and raiser of the children. When it comes to the decision-making, it depends upon the decision really. When it comes the the religion aspect, it does have a lot to do with it. Granted, you are a person without a God, but I use the Bible as the basis for (most) of my morals.| When it comes to her own career, traditional women tend not to be concerned with that. They are concerned with raising a family. I would want her to get an education, just in case if I were to somehow get permanently put out of work. Also, I am a hardcore Traditionalist, traditionalism has done our ancestors much good, they toiled away for hundreds of years to come to the conclusion that the traditional family structure is the best way to go. Since men are stronger, can handle more stress, and are less emotional than women. They are the best resource gatherers. With women, they are naturally more emotional, nurturing, and fair than men. They make the best homemakers and mother. Our traits balance out each other. Being old-fashioned is the best thing to be. So do you think if you were to put out of work the roles would slightly change. As in she'd have to work to provide and you'd be the homemaker and raiser of children? Not complete role change but a bit of adjustment due to external issues. I mean, it wouldn't be ideal, but you have to deal with the hand you are dealt, as that saying goes.
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