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Post by ivy on Sept 24, 2018 6:58:00 GMT
Origin of the Universe
1. Introduction
Before many chemical elements were found, most of the chemists didn’t know how many chemical elements are there on the Earth and their relationship. Dmitri Mendeleev had already made the famous Periodic Table of the Chemical Element, calculated the atomic quantity of elements and showed us the relationship between them. The elements discovered later were all included in his Table.
The case has demonstrated everything in the Universe has the order and laws. Some people say the Universe is lawless and disorderly because they haven’t found the laws and order.
2. Origin of the Universe
All things within the time scope, including the celestial bodies and Universe, have their origin, the birth time and process of development. The beginning and ending time of the Universe, just as theπ and golden ratio, is mysterious and can’t be reached by our wisdom. Compared with the wisdom of the Greatest Creator, our wisdom is just like a drop in the sea. I would like to share my knowledge of the beginning of the Universe gained while my mind was in peace.
When I am seeking what things in the Universe are eternal, when I am thinking about the resurrection in the Bible, when I am meditating the “The life is like a dream and all the four elements (earth, water, fire and air of which the world is made) are void” in the Buddhist scripture, when I am trying to figure out the source of Tao in the Tao Te Ching, when I ask myself why I would go to the Mortal World, why we exist and where we are going, I have known the beginning process of the Universe. However, when I am delighted to think I have found the mystery of the Universe, I suddenly realize that this mystery of the Universe beginning was explained by the humans (the ancestors of dragon nation) 6,000 years ago. It is like a Mt. Everest climber, after reaching the peak after multiple difficulties, finds someone else has left his footprint on it. Thus, I am not bold enough to claim myself as the first one knowing the Universe beginning. I only wish to add some details based on the wisdom of the past talents.
The River Diagram, The Book of Changes and the Yellow Emperor’s Book of Internal Medicine have told us the process of the Universe beginning is : Wuji generates Taiji, Taiji generates two polarities, the two polarities produce the four directions, the four directions create the eight
3. Before the universe was Wuji.
What is the state of Wuji?
Wuji is the state of neither in nor out, neither big nor small, neither bound nor edge, neither null nor true, neither time nor space, neither material nor spirit. It is clear, chaos, everything and nothing.
The detailed explanation of the state can’t be completed even in a book containing 1 million words. I just want to stick to one point. According to the estimation of the paleontologists, the Earth was born about 4.5 billion years ago. Then where was the Earth before it was born? We can only conclude that it was in Wuji before it was born, just like the human beings. We were also in Wuji before we were born. Because the whole Universe was in Wuji before it was born, Wuji contains everything. But where is Wuji? A thing without time, space, material, spirit, inside, outside, large size, small size, border, edge, firmness or emptiness can only be described by the word “shapeless and visionary”. However, Wuji doesn’t mean it contains nothing. Instead, it contains everything. It has nothing and everything at the same time. That’s why The Diamond Sutra was profound and difficult to understand. For example:
“If Tathagata explains the laws, don’t believe it. The laws can’t be explained. If explained, they are not the laws or not the lawless.”
“The Buddhism is no Buddhism.”
“The name of Anagami is Bulai. But actually Bulai doesn’t exist. So Anagami is called Anagami.”
“The solemn Buddhist is not solemn. It is called the Solemn.”
“Tathagata says the world is not the world. So it is called the world.”
“I should eliminate all life. After doing that, I found no life has been eliminated.”
And so on.
If we don’t know the origin of the Universe, it is very difficult for us to understand the above “Buddha words”. If we can fully understand the above “Non Buddha words”, we will know the origin of the Universe.
Before everything was born, they were in Wuji. So Wuji means everything.
We wish to take an example from the mythical novel Journey to the West to imagine the space in Wuji.
Monk Tang and his apprentices entered the disguised monastery. The Monkey King was trapped in the gold cymbal by the demon head. So how big or how small was this gold cymbal? No matter how high or how low the Monkey King could transform himself, the cymbal could change too following him. The Wuji space before the Universe was born was in the state as the cymbal. It was extremely large and extremely small.
The space described in Einstein’s the General Theory of Relativity just refers to the space above mentioned. The size of the space is not decided by the energy. However, it is decided by the existence of matters. The more matters are transformed from the energy, the larger the space will be and vice versa. If there is no matter, there will no space. It’s the same as the relationship between the Monkey King and the gold cymbal. The space in the cymbal is decided by the size of the Monkey King transforms himself. The traditional science believes that the space is like a box and the material is a particle in the box. When the particle disappears, the space is still there. Nevertheless, the space is not like that. When the particle is not there, the space will disappear. The space is determined by the distribution of particles. The space will twist, swell, contract or even disappear as the material and its energy change the size.
How to understand the time in Wuji?
Time is generated by the movement of objects. There is no time without motion.
For example, a man is 40 years old because the cells in his body are splitting, moving and dying. If the cells were not moving or splitting, he would not have lived till 40. A piece of fresh meat will rot in a few days if placed open to the air in hot weather. However, if we put the meat in the fridge, it will not rot in months. Why? The meat in the fridge has slow even halting cell movement. When the cell movement slows down, the time of the meat is lengthened. And when the cell movement stops, the time of the meat disappears.
If a man is never born, does he still have time? If the Earth is not born, does the Earth have time? If the Universe is not born, does the Universe have time? No.
This is the time in Wuji.
The core of the quantum mechanics is the “uncertainty”. Why? The time does not lapse evenly. The time is changing. So how can you obtain the “certainty”?
That’s all about my explanation of Wuji.
4. Wuji Generates Taiji
What is the state of Taiji?
First, we have to know Taiji is generated from Wuji.
Wuji is nothing and everything. It is everything because the energy existence in it can produce the material world. It is nothing because the energy in it is not material. It is chaos without firmness or emptiness. It is like the sky. When the sky is clear, there is nothing in it. But when it is cloudy, we can see the clouds and lightings and hear the thunders. Then there is everything.
In Wuji, there is the intangible energy. The intangible energy (in contrast with the tangible energy) is moving irregularly. When the irregular movement, accidently on a point, formed a specific order or symbol, the entire Wuji has formed a potential power arrow called the “tornado” centered on this point.
This potential power arrow, or “tornado”, is just called Taiji. (Please note that the tornado is simply a momentum with only potential power. It does not have kinetic energy because it is not rotating.)
This is how Taiji is generated from Wuji.
Taiji is in such a state: it is the one, amorphous, the unity without opposites, and an extremely large energy cluster (It is just like a locked reservoir containing billions of billions of Pacific)
The Taiji is just the Greatest Creator in common sense.
In Tao Te Ching, Lao Tzu said, “Chaos was born before there was the Earth and Heaven.” Before the Universe was born, “something” existed. This “something” is Taiji, the psychic energy of the Greatest Creator. Lao Tzu named this “something” as Tao because he confused the nature and psychic energy of the Greatest Creator.
After understanding what Wuji is, we can understand Buddha and Buddhism. After understanding Taiji, we can understand Tao and Taoism.
5. Taiji creates the Two Polarities
What are the two polarities?
It refers to the phenomenon of opposition.
For instance, in the state of Taiji, everything is the one and amorphous. But in the state of the “two polarities”, the intangible energy is shown up in a tangible form. The Sun, for example, is an energy cluster. It has been transformed from the intangible energy form in the state of Taiji into the tangible energy form. So the energy is classified into the tangible energy and intangible energy. “None” and “Existence” form the “two polarities”, namely, the unity of opposites.
The contents of the “two polarities” include: none and existence, firmness and emptiness, Yin and Yang, positive and negative, static and dynamic, left and right, up and down, exterior and interior, front and rear, high and low, noble and humble, hard and soft, big and small, strong and weak, dark and light, male and female, rich and poor, fortunate and unfortunate, gain and loss, merit and fault, more and less, life and death, true and false, good and evil, beauty and ugly, etc. They are the unities of opposites.
Everything in the Universe as we know is the demonstrations of the “two polarities”.
Then how are the “two polarities” were born out of the Taiji?
We have known that the irregular movement of energy in Wuji accidently formed a certain order. All the energy, in a short while, formed overwhelmingly an intangible potential energy. If the potential energy is not given out, it will only remain latent like a “paper-made tiger”. However, when all energies gather at the central point, the energy center has changed its nature, just like the water will evaporate when heated to a certain degree. At this time, the energy center, or the nucleus, is no long a kind of energy. Instead, it has become a special structure surrounded by great energies. When this structure is complete, the Consciousness comes into being. It is just like a fertilized egg without Consciousness. When it keeps absorbing energy in its mother’s uterus and improves its structure, a conscious animal (human) will be born.
The gathering of mammoth energies has led to the alienation of the energy center, resulting in a structure. The constant improvement of the structure ended up with the emergence of the Consciousness, which is the symbol of life birth. The Consciousness gathering all energies then started the process of creating the Universe. And it is the Greatest Creator.
After the Greatest Creator is born, the energy in the Taiji began to move around the Greatest Creator’s Consciousness. We can also say that all energies move around the structure of the energy center. Just like a human body, when your consciousness tells you to urinate, the bladder door is open and the urine goes out. When you want to look at the sky, your head will be raised and your eyes opened automatically. When you want to have intercourse, your penis is erected.
After the Greatest Creator is born, the “two polarities” come into being, the celestial bodies show up, the celestial movement begins, the unlimited space is born, the time starts and everything gets into the movement cycle of life and death.
6. The “Two Polarities” create the “Four Directions”
The “two polarities” have brought about the “four directions”. There is south, north, east and west. There is front, rear, left and right. There is life, growth, decline and death. There is quadrant 1, 2, 3 and 4 in the function image.
7. The “Four Directions” create the “Eight Trigrams”
Because there is south, north, east and west, there are now 8 directions including the east, southeast, south, southwest, west, northwest, north and northeast. The eight directions are called Qian, Dui, Li, Zhen, Xun, Kan, Gen and Kun respectively, forming the 8 trigrams. Each direction has its special meaning. Each direction has its different chance changes. Let’s take a person as an example. If he remains healthy in the south, he might find it difficult to get accustomed to the north. If nothing goes smooth in the east, he may achieve success in the west and the ugly duckling might become the white swan. Even grass will have different growth model and blossoming timing in different directions and locations.
8. The Permutation and Combination of the 8 Trigrams (Qian, Dui, Li, Zhen, Xun, Kan, Gen, and Kun) Produce the 64 Trigrams
The 64 trigrams are corresponding to the 64 factors in the Universe. But as to the details of these 64 factors, because they are related to all the mysteries in the Universe and hidden to the common people, even the King Wen of Zhou in the Canonization of the Gods didn’t know all of them. And the most achieved Taoists in China only knew a few of the factors. Sakyamuni masters half of them and Jesus only knows a few more than Sakyamuni does.
We often hear people say “No disclosure of the Heaven secrets”. The heaven secrets are just hidden in the 64 trigrams. The permutation and combination of the 64 trigrams have caused the birth and death of all things in the Universe. The things that you can’t imagine are just the combination of 2 factors. The power of Jesus lies in his mastery of the formula of these factors.
The birth and death of all things, the limitless mysteries and all changes and movements in the Universe are hidden in the permutation and combination (formula) of these 64 trigrams. “No coming, no going, the time-space ends and origin shows up.”
This is the brief process of the birth of the universe.
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Post by Elizabeth on Sept 29, 2018 3:19:24 GMT
" The way we get out of the worldly life is to expand our space. The way to enter the Celestial World is to compress the space between us and the Celestial Space. If we can freely expand and compress spaces, we can surmount the space and free ourselves from the constraint by the space." Ok so does this say that we get rid of space when we get out of the world or does it mean we move from worldy space to another space since we can't ever leave space? First, we should know that spaces can be categoried into matter space and anti-matter space. If you want to go to another country, we try to know more about this country, how to get to this contry, all the conditions. Then someday we can get there. It is the same for going to the anti-matter world. The difference is our body cannot get into the anti-matter world, only our consciousness(soul). Like the dream world, our memory. So we have to wait till we died to get into the heavenly world. Yes, we cannot leave space, as you see now, our body is now in matter world while our consciousness is in anti-matter world now. So you believe in a heaven and hell world?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2018 8:34:08 GMT
From where do you draw such conclusions ? Is it the analysis conducted by your group or something similar for which you left the domain name ? If not can you please quote references All articles are from Lifechanyuan corpus written by our spiritual guide Xuefeng. He is the great spiritual guide of mankind, born in northwest China, whose mission is to preach the Greatest Creator and the way of the Greatest Creator, and to reap the ripe crops,to lead humanity into the new, free, and happy millennium in which “All thoughts and beliefs will be unified into the Greatest Creator's will” and “The whole world will be one family”. Please refer to below website. Lifechanyuan: www.lifechanyuan.org New Oasis for Life: newoasisforlife.org Lifechanyuan International Family: www.smcyinternationalfamily.org Thanks I will check into it
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2018 9:17:44 GMT
Agree with the following you wrote . Thanks for destroying the fairy tale heaven and hell concept held by mainstream religions. "Death is just one phenomenon of life, and eternality is the essence of life. Actually, there is no birth or death for the essence of life in any sense, but a matter of transmigration of transformation. And this is an indisputable fact" You are blessed to see this information. More and more people will know this. Religion will disappear: On Lifechanyuan era (3) Deiform Celestial (Xuefeng) Religion is a kind of knowledge exploring the relation between human and nature and is a kind of knowledge about life; it is an ideological theory framework helping people to establish the correct view of world, view of live, view of life and view of value; it is a bridge that guides people to move from the material world to nonmaterial world; and it is an efficient way to establish belief and enlighten mind power. The essence of religion is to maintain the inner silence and the world peace, to help life move from this shore to another. The starting point of all the religions is kind-hearted; the limitation and discrepancy of human recognition result in countless doctrines which are difficult to justify themselves and result in the birth of countless religious sects and factions; on the other hand, the different religious sects and factions are not only unfavorable to the world peace but become a major factor of the turbulent world. With the existing of religions, human beings will never share peace and tranquility. The birth of different religious sects is very natural and everything will experience the birth, development, expansion, and then declination and death. Religion is of no exception. Religion has made great contribution to the inherence of civilization in history; however, with the gradually deepening recognition on the natural law, people find the religion has become fetters and handcuffs which are used to constrain human thinking; without breaking down the superstition of religion, the civilization of humans can not move forward and human beings can never enter into the new era. There are eight shortcomings in the existing religions. 1. Ignorant to life and unclear about the road to Heaven What is life? Where is the Heaven? How can one go to the Heaven? The existing religions are confused about this. 2. Making people feel terror, fettering human thinking Without the concrete time and rescuing channel, religions create the eschatology to terrify people indefinitely. Religions restrict people to explore freely and persuade people to give up enjoyment in this life, which delays people's research and exploration on the essence of life. 3. Overweening and autocratic Any religious sects or factions who regard themselves as the only correct one and others are all heresy; all religions are plotting to control mankind. They are narrow-minded and unwilling to communicate with other sects or learn from others. 4. Suppressing human nature and fettering human spirit A series of canons, doctrines and commandments are the ropes to fetter human thinking, and most of them work to suppress human nature and fetter human spirit. 5. All religions run counter to the Tao of the Greatest Creator What is the true essence of human life? What is the value and meaning of human life? All religions fail to spell out and speak clearly. 6. Suppressing the new emerging forces and destroying the elite of human being. Such as the Christianity regarded "the witness of Jehovah" as heresy and burned Bruno to death. 7. Creating contradiction and stirring up war All religions can not tolerate different opinions and would rather create contradiction and stir up war in order to maintain their own benefits. 8. Wasting manpower and material resources and creating the religious superstition Religions build up temples and churches everywhere and call on people to worship idols, offer up a sacrifice by killing, hold crazy activities, which have harassed the people's mind and nature's peace and tranquility, hindered the natural activities of mankind and led people into the religious superstition. It is difficult to estimate the good effect of religion, nor its bad effect. Religion has become the obstacle for the progress of human civilization. Human should move towards unification; however, religion is unwilling to do so; one can imagine: is Christianism willing to give up all its own doctrine to accept that of Islam? Is Islam willing to give up all its own doctrine to accept that of Hinduism? Is Hinduism willing to give up all its doctrine to accept that of Buddhism? Is Buddhism willing to give up all its doctrine to accept that of Christianism? They will not and these four big religions will safeguard their own doctrine. In this way, how can the world move towards unification? Can the world be peaceful? The only way is to unify all doctrines into one and unify all religions into one. Everyone follows the path of the Greatest Creator. In the Lifechanyuan era, all founders of religions such as Jesus, Sakyamuni, Mohammed, LaoTzu, etc. and all the people whose sermons causing the birth of different religious sects and factions will receive respects and honors, but any one of these sermons can not become the only correct theory. People will not fanatically worship their own hierarch. There are not any religious sects in the world and the whole people will not worship any idols or go to any churches or prostrate oneself in worship but revere the Greatest Creator, life, Nature and follow the way of the Greatest Creator. Everyone shares the maximum freedom in thought, spirit and human life. With the development of science and the continuous liberation of human spirit, the value view and the world view of people also change constantly. We used to think that the religious believers are elegant, self-control, civilized and noble, who are armed with faith, aspiration and ideal; and now we gradually realize that the religious believers are stubborn, obsessed, perverse, emotional, simple-minded and short of reason and forgiveness; if you obey their religious doctrine and rules, they would be kind with pleasant countenance; if you propose different opinion and ideas, they would be out of reason and become very terrible with an angry face. The future mankind will enter into Lifechanyuan era; and any religions have to overturn the values of Lifechanyuan if they want to exist, otherwise you have to give up your own religious belief; certainly you can stick stubbornly to your own belief and no one can control you. People in the end can do nothing but laugh at you, pity you and feel sorry for you. Lifechanyuan: www.lifechanyuan.org New Oasis for Life: newoasisforlife.org Lifechanyuan International Family: www.smcyinternationalfamily.org I wouldn't say I am blessed but rather delighted to read your contribution to the community , as I am already aware of such universal truth. I share the same mindset and co-incide with all what u wrote. If u notice my profile. Deism shares almost the same concept. To believe in the creator nor in any religion. I would have love to quote certain things u wrote and express the elation I had as we hardly get contributions from free thinkers on this platform. However, i have to say the following in regards to your post: i dont see any way religious sects will share the same characteristics and would die off. As long humans exist, its unfortunate religion would exist. Religion does claim to know about heaven, even if it's a wrong concept, they belive if your virtues are greater than your sins, u will be rewarded heaven in after life. We cannot unify all doctrines in to one, as they will contradict each other but i get the message you are trying to say . Do u agree that doctrines were NOT a word of God directly communicated to prophets but rather there own intellectual insights? I shared almost the similar insights about religion in the thread " Religion a virus" in the spiritual board. Have u ever heard of the term Deism ? Please tell me as much as u can about Tao Having shared negative aspect of religion i would like to sum up, that it makes sense to hold critcisism against religion but nor the people ,as harmony and kindness is for all , we all were brought up in some religion, we were not willing to accept the universal truth when our cognitive dissonance wasnt allowing it to accept , may be they are in the phase of enlightment or even if not, love is for all.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2018 9:23:20 GMT
You claim matter is an illusion, However both abstract and reality are composed of the same limits. And the base triad these limits exist through are the line, point and circle which exist as the foundation of mental phenomena. In these respects, due to its particulate nature, matter is a lower degree of mind subject to its own laws itself. Is matter really an illusion under these premises? From the mass-energy equation e=mc2 by Einstein, the matters are formed following the formula m = e/c2, in which c represents the light speed which is a constant while e stands for energy which is a variable. It means that energy is the only factor that forms the matters. Without the energy, there are no matters, sun, moon, stars, stones, mountains, rivers, flowers, trees, birds, fish, animals or human being at all. From above we can see, matter is not permanent. The universe is consists of three key elements: Energy, Consciousness and Structure. We are our souls(in Lifechanyuan we say consciousness). We are not trying to say matter is nothing or not important. We are living in this world, our body is made of matter, but it exists relatively short and we are looking for what is imortal. Even the law of energy states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed.
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Post by ivy on Oct 4, 2018 3:14:19 GMT
You are blessed to see this information. More and more people will know this. Religion will disappear: On Lifechanyuan era (3) Deiform Celestial (Xuefeng) I wouldn't say I am blessed but rather delighted to read your contribution to the community , as I am already aware of such universal truth. I share the same mindset and co-incide with all what u wrote. If u notice my profile. Deism shares almost the same concept. To believe in the creator nor in any religion. I would have love to quote certain things u wrote and express the elation I had as we hardly get contributions from free thinkers on this platform. However, i have to say the following in regards to your post: i dont see any way religious sects will share the same characteristics and would die off. As long humans exist, its unfortunate religion would exist. Religion does claim to know about heaven, even if it's a wrong concept, they belive if your virtues are greater than your sins, u will be rewarded heaven in after life. We cannot unify all doctrines in to one, as they will contradict each other but i get the message you are trying to say . Do u agree that doctrines were NOT a word of God directly communicated to prophets but rather there own intellectual insights? I shared almost the similar insights about religion in the thread " Religion a virus" in the spiritual board. Have u ever heard of the term Deism ? Please tell me as much as u can about Tao Having shared negative aspect of religion i would like to sum up, that it makes sense to hold critcisism against religion but nor the people ,as harmony and kindness is for all , we all were brought up in some religion, we were not willing to accept the universal truth when our cognitive dissonance wasnt allowing it to accept , may be they are in the phase of enlightment or even if not, love is for all. Thanks for sharing. It is good to have some religious belief, but to join in any organization, we are selling our freedom out. When we are thankful, we think of God instead of a pastor. Do people go to church every week? I don't think so. Revere God is in one's mind. whether religion will die off or not, let's walk and see. The Greatest Creator has never talked with the human beings directly. The word of the Greatest Creator are hidden in the laws of the nature. In a word, the word of the Greatest Creator is the Tao. To be specific, the Greatest Creator’s “speeches” are the equations in the physics, the molecular formula in the chemistry, the formula in the math, the structural formula in the biology and the cause-effect formula in the life science.----by Xunfen I heard of Deism before, but havn't paid attention to it. I think, you are rather resonat with Lifechanyuan values, we take the way of the Greatest Creator. Tao is the will of the Great Creator. I will post more about Tao. -------------- The Will of the Greatest Creator is Reflected in the Laws and Rules of Nature Xuefeng May 19th 2015 ( Translated by Transn and Edited by Kaer) Tao is the integration of all the rules and laws of the universe and includes the consciousness of the Greatest Creator. Therefore, the will of the Greatest Creator is reflected in the laws and rules of nature. If our thoughts, words, and deeds comply with the laws and rules of nature, then we will be rewarded by the Greatest Creator, but if they are against them, then we will be punished by It. Ultimate Tao can not be reached by active pursuit. There is no way to get rewards from the Greatest Creator by wishing for them, no matter who you are, how pious you are, nor how much you emotionally love the Greatest Creator. When you go against the laws and rules of nature, you will be punished. For instance, regardless how many joss sticks we burn or how many times we kowtow in a temple, if we drink poison, we will surely die. This is the only way that things work. Merits and mistakes do not offset each other. A merit is a merit and mistake is a mistake. We will be rewarded for our merits and punished for our mistakes. No matter what great merits we have, as long as we make mistakes, even a slight ones, we will be punished for them. That is to say, even if we perform ten-thousand good deeds, we will still be punished for doing one bad thing. The Greatest Creator will not ignore a single bad thing no matter how many good things we do. So, we all suffer from illness and mishaps, be it the pope, the hierarch, the master, the emperor, the devout disciple or the lay person. Even a messenger of the Greatest Creator would not be given special grace by which to escape from the due punishment. Just do not assume that you will be saved from the consequences of your mistakes by following the Greatest Creator and taking his way. Therefore, the most difficult thing is to ascend to a higher space of LIFE by self-refinery and self-improvement because it is rigorous, meticulous, precise, and non-emotional. For instance, if the standard for a mortal to ascend to immortality is one hundred (100) points, then ninety-nine (99) points would never be enough. It is just like the eighty-one (81) hardships experienced by Monk Tang, not one single hardship could be missed in order for him to succeed. Therefore, we must remember that when we encounter sorrows, setbacks, and failures, they are hardships that we must traverse. This is karma. The sin we sow can only be dispelled by reaping a painful consequence. There is no alternative! Of course, we should never doubt the justice and mercy of the Greatest Creator. Absolutely beautiful things can only be enjoyed by the absolute LIFE. Absolutely beautiful things are boundless and endless and when we want to enjoy these unending and boundlessly beautiful things, we should focus on examining our LIVES and ask ourselves: “Is mine an absolutely beautiful LIFE?”. If not, we should focus our self-refinery and self-improvement on improving our quality of LIFE, rather than on absolutely beautiful things. When our quality of LIFE reaches the absolutely beautiful realm, then absolutely beautiful things will come to us. Let us bear all the miseries, frustration, and suffering with delight and march firmly toward the perfection and beautification of LIFE. Merits and mistakes cannot be offset. The will of the Greatest Creator is reflected by the laws and rules of nature. Let us strictly follow these rules and laws of nature and trek and climb, step by step, to the highest realm of LIFE. ========================================================================================== Lifechanyuan: www.lifechanyuan.org New Oasis for Life: newoasisforlife.org Lifechanyuan International Family: www.smcyinternationalfamily.org
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Post by Elizabeth on Oct 4, 2018 3:31:42 GMT
So you do believe in a creator named Tao. Tao seems to be the god figure here from what I'm seeing?. Also, what are Lifechanyuan values? Are they just mere human beliefs on religion and philosophy? And I'm actually one person who does go to church each week. They do exist
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Post by ivy on Oct 4, 2018 3:48:41 GMT
First, we should know that spaces can be categoried into matter space and anti-matter space. If you want to go to another country, we try to know more about this country, how to get to this contry, all the conditions. Then someday we can get there. It is the same for going to the anti-matter world. The difference is our body cannot get into the anti-matter world, only our consciousness(soul). Like the dream world, our memory. So we have to wait till we died to get into the heavenly world. Yes, we cannot leave space, as you see now, our body is now in matter world while our consciousness is in anti-matter world now. So you believe in a heaven and hell world? Yes, and even Earth can become paradise if we all have the same wish. The one thousand year Lifechanyuan Era will be heaven on the earth.
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Post by ivy on Oct 4, 2018 3:58:14 GMT
So you do believe in a creator named Tao. Tao seems to be the god figure here from what I'm seeing?. Also, what are Lifechanyuan values? Are they just mere human beliefs on religion and philosophy? And I'm actually one person who does go to church each week. They do exist The Greates Creator's consciousness is Tao, the way of the Greateast Creator. Haa, surprised to hear that you go to church every week. I wonder what is the propotion of people going to church every week. Do you think God still with you in the days when you are not in church? ------------------------------------------------- The Eight Meanings of the Way of the Greatest Creator XueFeng (Translated by Transn and Edited by Kaer) Lifechanyuan takes the Way of the Greatest Creator, but what is the Way of the Greatest Creator and what are its meanings? In general, the Way of the Greatest Creator is the Tao of nature, the Way that Jesus Christ, Buddha Sakyamuni, the immortal Lao Tzu, and Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) guided people to take. The Way of the Greatest Creator has eight major meanings: 1.The universe is the product of the the consciousness of the Greatest Creator. 2.Everything comes into being through its creation. 3.Everything runs in the consciousness of the Way of the Greatest Creator. 4.You must give play to your nature and conform to nature. 5.You must revere the Greatest Creator and follow his example. 6.Reality is the portrayal of all kinds of free LIFE consciousness. 7.Happiness, joy, freedom, and blessings are the main melodies of LIFE. 8.All is but a game. I. The Universe is the Product of the Consciousness of the Greatest Creator Structure generates consciousness. The original cosmic consciousness is Allah - Ancestor of Buddha, the Greatest Creator. After the birth of Allah - Ancestor of Buddha, the Greatest Creator, Wuji turned into a being which had consciousness, and hence everything began to follow the consciousness of the Greatest Creator. Chaos turned into Deiform. Yin and Yang and the Four Images came into being. The universe took shape. Gradually the 20-parallel worlds and 36-Dimensional Space were formed and the appearance of time resulted from material movement. So, the universe is the product of the consciousness of the Greatest Creator. Acknowledging this is to take the Way of the Greatest Creator. II. All Things are Created In the beginning, the universe was Wuji and was void. With the being of the Greatest Creator, so began creation with consciousness and the creation of the first batch of LIFE - Gods, the sun, the moon, and the stars, and then the second batch LIFE - Angels (Super Celestial Beings). Then the Gods and Angels were asked to create all things based on a “blueprint” designed by the Greatest Creator. For all the LIFE we see on earth, not only people and animals, but even the grass and bacterial microorganisms come into being through His creation. We often observe that some LIFE seems to be of natural birth and can not see its creation process. In fact they are not formed by natural birth, but as the result of the operation of the reproduction program of LIFE. Understanding this is to take the Way of the Greatest Creator. III. Everything Runs in the Consciousness of the Greatest Creator - the Tao. The sunrise and sunset, the ebb and flow, the blooming and fading of flowers, the changing of seasons: who arranges and controls all these things? The answer is Tao. The intercourse of a man and woman gives birth to fertilized ovum which gradually develops in the womb of the mother to eventually form a complete human body with eyes, a nose, hair, hands, and feet. After nine months pregnancy and giving birth to a child, comes infancy, childhood, youth, adulthood, old age, deterioration, and death. Who arranges and controls this? The answer is also Tao. As long as we conduct mediations and read our revelations, we will find that everything in time and space is in the arrangement and control of Tao. Where does the Tao with the eight characteristics come from? We can ask the question this way. The normal operation of human society relies on the maintenance of constitutions, laws, rules and regulations. Where do they come from? Undoubtedly, they are developed by people. People are operating them from behind and here is the answer. The law that maintains the effective operation of all things in the universe - Tao, was developed by the Greatest Creator. “Someone” is operating the Tao from behind. And this “someone” is the Greatest Creator. Constitutions and laws reflect the people’s consciousness; therefore, Tao reflects the consciousness of the Greatest Creator. Conversely, the consciousness of the Greatest Creator is Tao. All things move in Tao, that is, all things move in the consciousness of the Greatest Creator. Recognizing this is to take the Way of the Greatest Creator. IV. Highlighting Nature and Conforming to Nature All things have Nature: mountains have mountain Nature, water has water Nature, Gods have God Nature, devils have devil Nature, people have human Nature, and beasts have beast Nature. Where do the Natures of all things come from? The answer is that the Natures of all things come from their structures. The kinds of structures determine the kinds of Natures. The structures of all things are created by the Greatest Creator. If things live and exist by their Natures, then they are following the will of the Greatest Creator. If they do not live and exist by their Natures, they are doing so against the will of the Greatest Creator. A dog is to watch the house and guard the yard, a cat is to catch mice, and a mouse is to dig holes and steal and eat granary. Only when all things perform their own functions can the universe move in an orderly way, and only then can it meet the decree of the Greatest Creator. If things were to deviate from their Natures, then they would deviate from the Way of the Greatest Creator and would thus be punished by the Tao. Take people for example. People have to live and exist by human Nature. Were they to lose their human Nature, they would be bound to be punished. Likewise, expending or suppressing human Nature is also deviating from the Way of the Greatest Creator. Let us say the Buddhist monks and nuns or the Christian priests and sisters have their innate human Natures destroyed or suppressed. That would be a deviation from the Way of the Greatest Creator. Human eyes are to see, ears are to hear, and organs are to procreate. If they were to be left unused, it would also be against the will of the Greatest Creator in creating them. Roosters are created to crow, hens are created to lay eggs, and people are created to be active on the earth to please the Greatest Creator. If roosters refused to crow, hens refused to lay eggs, and people did not please the Greatest Creator, then what would be the use of the roosters, the hens, or the people? Chinese Taoists pursue magic powers and the arts, and that is not right. It is against the Way of the Greatest Creator. The things that are necessary for people’s survival and existence have been designed in structures of LIFE by the Greatest Creator, no more and no less. For instance, our eyes can only see chromatic images in the wavelengths between four hundred and seven hundred nanometers and our hearing threshold is between twenty hertz and twenty kilohertz, and that is enough. Exceeding those ranges is adverse to people. Many Chinese practitioners work through the Du Meridian and Ren Meridian, the microcosmic and macrocosmic orbits, retreating, making plant seeds germinate from within the hands, opening the third eye, or self-refining to bring out the primordial spirit, and so on. All these practices are contrary to the Tao of nature, thus contrary to the Way of the Greatest Creator. Just as the rooster that wants to lay eggs instead of crowing or the hen that wants to crow instead of laying eggs, the results are predictable. So taking the Way of the Greatest Creator is to highlight innate Natures and to follow them. "A clear-sighted mind is to perceive the Natures and perceiving these Natures is to attain Buddhahood." One will never attain Buddhahood if they do not perceive Natures and follow them. V. Revering the Greatest Creator and Following the Example of the Greatest Creator Reverence of the Greatest Creator allows us to "Do whatever we desire to, but not to go against the rules". If you do not revere the Greatest Creator, you will be lawless and do whatever you desire and bring harm upon yourself as a result. Therefore, revering the Greatest Creator is fully beneficial, brings no harm, and costs nothing. If you do not revere the Greatest Creator, disasters will befall you. Why should you refuse the deal with only gains but no losses? The Greatest Creator is love, sincerity, kindness, beauty, faith and honesty, happiness, joy, freedom, and blessing. So we need to follow the example of the Greatest Creator. The Greatest Creator is also creation. So we should follow the example of the Greatest Creator to work and create and to get joy from labor. The Greatest Creator is also selfless dedication, so we should follow the example of the selfless dedication of the Greatest Creator and obtain blessing from selfless dedication. VI. Reality is the Portrayal of the Diverse Free Consciousness of LIFE Consider that if you have loose bowels, you must have eaten rotten or spoiled food, and if you have a headache, you probably wore something unsuited for the weather or lacked sleep due to excessive thinking. Consider that if someone scolds you today, you might have hurt them in the past. Is that not so? If we trace the roots of our situations, pains, misfortunes, or even the disasters we encounter, they are all the results of our false consciousness and the defects in our soul. "Good will be blessed with good and evil will be cursed with evil. If it is not repaid now, that is only because its time has not yet come. Once the time comes, it will surely be repaid". If you want to know what you have done in the past, look at your present situation; if you want to know your future situation, watch your present words and deeds. Your consciousness determines your life environment and your survival state. Like attracts like and identical frequencies resonate. Beauty attracts beauty and ugliness invites ugliness. If we are nice to LIFE and nature, LIFE and nature will be nice to us, but if we bring harm to LIFE and nature, LIFE and the nature will naturally bring harm to us. "Divine punishments, though slow, are always sure." "Misery and happiness have no doors - if either comes, one brings it upon themself." If we carry out the devil’s deeds, we will become devils and if we act like beasts, we will become beasts, but if we follow the example of Buddha, then we will attain Buddhahood. “When you approach the mountain you will learn the twitter of birds; when you approach the water you will understand the freely swimming fish.” Birds of a feather flock together and like begets like. The Greatest Creator has bestowed certain free consciousness upon us. We make the choices of what to do and what not to do. All of us are responsible for our choices. Reality is the portrayal of various free consciousnesses of LIFE. We have neither heaven, the earth, society, nor others to blame. If something seems wrong, it is neither with the universe nor the world, but with you. If you do not understand this, then your Life is confused. If you do understand this, then your Life is one that is as clear as crystal. This is the Way of the Greatest Creator. VII. Happiness, Joy, Freedom, and Blessing are the Themes of LIFE Did the Greatest Creator create people to suffer? No, definitely not! Was it for them to fight and kill each other, contend for power, cheat on each other, conspire against each other, and to worry and be miserable? No, definitely not! The Greatest Creator created people to lead happy, joyful, free, and blessed lives. We see the blue sky and white clouds, the blossoming of all kinds of flowers and birds twittering cheerfully. These are designed to please our minds and bodies. I guess the adults reading this have enjoyed physical love ? How does that feel? Wonderful, right? The Greatest Creator designed organs and senses to let us enjoy Life and LIFE. These facts prove eloquently that the Greatest Creator loves us. The Greatest Creator is compassionate and wants us to lead happy, joyful, free, and blessed lives. Therefore, happiness, joy, freedom, and blessings are the themes of LIFE. Any human activities should be carried out and preceded tightly around attaining these attributes for everyone. Some people claim that they are not happy, joyous, free, or blessed. In fact, you asked for all your problems. For instance, perhaps you have a spouse who makes you feel unfree. Well, may I ask you why you should have married and found a spouse in the first place? Was that not your own choice? Did you not ask for it? Were you forced to do it by the Greatest Creator? The Greatest Creator has bestowed divine freedom upon you, but you voluntarily gave it up, so who is to blame? We grow crops, engage in production or labour, make money, become officials, start businesses, etc. What are the ultimate the purposes? Do we grow crops for the sake of growing crops, work for the sake of working, and make money for the sake of making money? Definitely not, we do these things to achieve happy, joyful, free, and blessed lives, right? So, remember that these are the themes of LIFE. No matter what you do, regardless of your status, your identity, or your fame, as long as you possess them in your lifetime, you are on the Way of the Greatest Creator and your Life is a successful and rewarding one. VIII. All is but a game The universe is in the condition of joy. The purpose of the Greatest Creator, creating all these things is but a game. Everything is but a game. Only souls are real, but life is a game. One can not be too persistent on things and should not possess and occupy too much. Excessive persistence and too much possession and occupation will cause you to lose the true nature of LIFE and make the game turn into the pain of fighting and killing and turn a drama into a tragedy. It is not worthwhile. Therefore, Life is but a dream. All the four elements are void. We need to experience lives to the fullest and live them that way. Play the game as much as you like. Enjoy it to the fullest if it is fun but give it up if it is not. Why are you so serious and so persistent? Nothing is yours. The Life stage is just a game. What can you keep after death? Only the soul is real! The eight points mentioned above are the main meanings of the Way of the Greatest Creator. If you comprehend, understand, and practice them, then you are on the Way of the Greatest Creator. If you do not comprehend, understand, or practice them, then you are away from the Way of the Greatest Creator.
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Post by ivy on Oct 4, 2018 4:05:10 GMT
So you do believe in a creator named Tao. Tao seems to be the god figure here from what I'm seeing?. Also, what are Lifechanyuan values? Are they just mere human beliefs on religion and philosophy? And I'm actually one person who does go to church each week. They do exist what are Lifechanyuan values? ------- Preface of Lifechanyuan Values Fansheng Buddha As we know, the Chanyuan Values is born in Chanyuan Corpus. If one wants to understand the Chanyuan values, one should first read Chanyuan Corpus, which, according to Crane-Celestial, is a unique and outstanding book. This description is very suitable. We all know that everything happens accidentally either a book or a theory framework. Our direct contacts are the literal things, and what we can't imagine and understand the chance of consciousness and the whole process behind it. However, there certainly exists its origin and reference behind the phenomenon of words. To read words from this perspective, the whole words are reproduced as a lively drama, in which the personages and the incidents are full of vivid details. This process is just like the archaeologist reproducing an ancient unknown history through a series of intact archaeological excavation. From this point of view, any literal things left in human history are related with the former social background, the author's personal experience and his unique consciousness. If you read Chanyuan Corpus from this perspective, you will find the whole Chanyuan Corpus is full of vivid details and the soul of the book stands vividly in the pages. From this point of view, you can find the whole corpus is finished perfectly and written at one stretch. It is difficult to find a book in the history that as extensively involves as it does; it is also difficult to find a book in human culture that involves such a deep cultural background as it does. So, it is no exaggeration to say that Chanyuan Corpus has represented the development of human history vividly and contained all the human crystal of wisdom completely. Chanyuan Corpus starts from the birth of the universe, makes a deep analysis on the documents of several big religious sects in human history and reproduces the original features of all the religious texts. It starts from Chinese ancient historical legend to thousands years of phylogeny of mankind and inherits the whole Chinese history from the ancient time to today. Seeing from such a visual angle, you can turn back and unscramble any known and unknown literature such as classic works, various allusions, fairy stories and historical legends, in which all the personages are becoming alive and are closely bound up with our present human life. From this point of view, Chanyuan Corpus has made distinguished contribution on human beings and has reached the wisdom summit of human history. With a close look at Chanyuan Corpus, we can feel that it leads us to know the Greatest Creator from the origin of the universe to the life space, from the movement of the macroscopic celestial bodies to the microscopic human organs, from the unsolved mysteries in history to various trifles happened all around us everyday. It uses the Wisdom and Abnormal Thinking to unscramble the truth of human history, to analyze the natural phenomena, and it uses the crystal of human wisdom to trigger our wisdom spark. It uses the Humans, Human Life and Life to analyze the origin of human beings, the level, truth and meaning of life, etc. It analyzes from the ancient time to the present, from macroscopic world to microscopic world, reveals all the evolution process of mankind life and points out that the current and future circumstance of human development will soon meet difficulties. In the Preaching and Time and Space of the Universe, it offers a detailed explanation on the phenomena of the universe in accordance with people's understanding from macroscopic to microscopic view. It also explains in detail about the origin of the universe; and through its description, the birth process of the Greatest Creator and the truth of the universe development are represented, which helps us cognize correctly what the Tao is. It also reveals the unified field of the universe from the dual perspectives of theology and science and points out the current development advantages and drawbacks of human science. It also reveals the birth of time and space in the universe and guides us to understand the existing state of different life in the 36-dimensional space, points out the beautiful development tendency for mankind and finds the better existing space for mankind. Among them, the Nonmaterial World will lead human into an unknown realm and open a new chapter for mankind to further cognize the truth, meaning of life and the Greatest Creator, to upgrade the level of life. The Revelation, Self-Refinery And Self-Improvement, Clutivation of Immortal, Buddhahood and Humans guide mankind how to cognize the truth of life and upgrade the level of life from the change of macroscopic life to microscopic life, from the change of natural phenomena to the essence of objective things. It starts from the practical method, from the elemental class to middle class then to high class, lets us learn through practice step by step. Through all these methods, it gradually improves our cognition and makes our cognition produce a qualitative mutation from the quantities accumulation. This process is also a process training us to move towards satori. All these methods are just formulary, but their application should follow the order from the junior to senior and can be flexible and different from person to person. The Civilization opens a new chapter for mankind and points out that the future people have to cognize the Greatest Creator to fundamentally solve the drawbacks in the current development process. In the Universe-Celestial's words, humans have to carry out the radically reform to follow the operating mechanism of growing from nothing to cognize the world namely starting from the Greatest Creator to the origin of the universe. Humans have to work out the rules of the game for the human life and existence to guarantee that all life can share the charity of the Greatest Creator freely and happily. As a result, everyone can know the fundamental of life so as to be grateful to the Greatest Creator, to cherish the life and to share the time of peace and prosperity of the Great Harmony. Chanyuan Corpus contains too much information to enumerate in detail. In one word, the whole corpus impresses us with its extraordinary integrity and strictness and different chapters in the book forming a coherent whole. As a theoretical framework, it is unassailable. There is no accident for such an amazing works with the consciousness chance and process behind it because the time and energy of one person are finite after all; so I think that one needs to use up his lifetime energy to finish such an amazing book involving and researching in such wide realm. Otherwise, this fantastic book had appeared earlier in the history, and we needn't wait until nowadays. So we can say the Chanyuan Corpus is a sealed book, which is written in words but better than that; it seems to tell you everything and nothing at the same time. The wise man and the lucky will tell the difference.. So much for it. Now I will talk about the Chanyuan values according to my own understanding: the Chanyuan values is a most direct channel to the origin of life and a happy road for human transmitted by the Greatest Creator, various Gods and Buddha through Xue Feng; it shortens the distance between our horizon and the universe-this "root" looks as if far away from us; it uncovers the veil of the space, time and the nonmaterial world; it organically combines the religion with science and makes great contribution to scientifically establish the unification of the universe. It helps us unscramble the meaning of life from the origin to the transmigration of life, from the level of life to how to improve the quality of life. It reveals the truth of the universe-consciousness, structure and energy, and helps us break through the various obstructions in our consciousness; and it cognizes the origin directly and then connects to the origin. It helps us understand that it is the bounden duty for each life to maintain a stable and harmonious universe, understand the meaning of human life and life, and understand how to improve our life quality to meet such opportunity when the universe is going to take place the big adjustment. In other words, the Chanyuan values refers to the life and human life norms that the new mankind has to obey; and it is an optimum way to win the wisdom because it gathers all the wisdom in human history; and it will carry forward all of them. The Chanyuan values is a treasure chest, from which you can get whatever you want. The people armed with the concept can tell the difference of all the true and false things, make the demons and ghosts nowhere to stay. The concept can open the eye of insight, the eye of transcendent wisdom and the Buddha eye for us. Chanyuan concept is a great furnace of life, from which you can get whatever life quality with your own wisdom and efforts. Certainly, the concept of Chanyuan is also Pandora's Box: good begets good and evil leads to evil. Although the concept of Chanyuan is just a phrase, it contains various secret knowledge, which will gradually guide us to deepen our understanding, so it can help us solve the problems of real life and unscramble the life phenomena, help us from the methods of preserving our health to the improvement of our life quality, from telling the truth of world to unscrambling the essence of life. It organically combines the tangible material world with the intangible nonmaterial world together. It reveals the truth staying behind the surface phenomena of life and shows us what the soul is and what the life nonmaterial structure is. It also reveals us how to cognize our own spiritual entity, how to connect other psychic energies and how to cognize the relation between us and the psychic energy of our origin step by step. It seems there are too much content in Chanyuan values, but the Chanyuan values seems to have nothing as well. You have to depend on yourself to know the Chanyuan values is and then put it into practice flexibly. What is Chanyuan values? Do you understand it? Haw-haw, just think I said nothing. ==================================================================================== Lifechanyuan: www.lifechanyuan.org New Oasis for Life: newoasisforlife.org Lifechanyuan International Family: www.smcyinternationalfamily.org
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Post by Elizabeth on Oct 4, 2018 4:10:40 GMT
ivy Small compared to the world's population, I'm sure. But I view this as a positive thing because that's how a niche is developed and groups are formed with common interests which ties people together. Such groups are better small I think anyway. Bonds work better in a small close knit community. Yes. He's omnipresent biblically so always present whether youre in church or not. So Tao just takes the message spread by religious figures like Jesus, Muhammad, etc. I thought it was a name to a god or something
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 10:25:02 GMT
I wouldn't say I am blessed but rather delighted to read your contribution to the community , as I am already aware of such universal truth. I share the same mindset and co-incide with all what u wrote. If u notice my profile. Deism shares almost the same concept. To believe in the creator nor in any religion. I would have love to quote certain things u wrote and express the elation I had as we hardly get contributions from free thinkers on this platform. However, i have to say the following in regards to your post: i dont see any way religious sects will share the same characteristics and would die off. As long humans exist, its unfortunate religion would exist. Religion does claim to know about heaven, even if it's a wrong concept, they belive if your virtues are greater than your sins, u will be rewarded heaven in after life. We cannot unify all doctrines in to one, as they will contradict each other but i get the message you are trying to say . Do u agree that doctrines were NOT a word of God directly communicated to prophets but rather there own intellectual insights? I shared almost the similar insights about religion in the thread " Religion a virus" in the spiritual board. Have u ever heard of the term Deism ? Please tell me as much as u can about Tao Having shared negative aspect of religion i would like to sum up, that it makes sense to hold critcisism against religion but nor the people ,as harmony and kindness is for all , we all were brought up in some religion, we were not willing to accept the universal truth when our cognitive dissonance wasnt allowing it to accept , may be they are in the phase of enlightment or even if not, love is for all. Thanks for sharing. It is good to have some religious belief, but to join in any organization, we are selling our freedom out. When we are thankful, we think of God instead of a pastor. Do people go to church every week? I don't think so. Revere God is in one's mind. whether religion will die off or not, let's walk and see. The Greatest Creator has never talked with the human beings directly. The word of the Greatest Creator are hidden in the laws of the nature. In a word, the word of the Greatest Creator is the Tao. To be specific, the Greatest Creator’s “speeches” are the equations in the physics, the molecular formula in the chemistry, the formula in the math, the structural formula in the biology and the cause-effect formula in the life science.----by Xunfen I heard of Deism before, but havn't paid attention to it. I think, you are rather resonat with Lifechanyuan values, we take the way of the Greatest Creator. Tao is the will of the Great Creator. I will post more about Tao. -------------- The Will of the Greatest Creator is Reflected in the Laws and Rules of Nature Xuefeng May 19th 2015 ( Translated by Transn and Edited by Kaer) Tao is the integration of all the rules and laws of the universe and includes the consciousness of the Greatest Creator. Therefore, the will of the Greatest Creator is reflected in the laws and rules of nature. If our thoughts, words, and deeds comply with the laws and rules of nature, then we will be rewarded by the Greatest Creator, but if they are against them, then we will be punished by It. Ultimate Tao can not be reached by active pursuit. There is no way to get rewards from the Greatest Creator by wishing for them, no matter who you are, how pious you are, nor how much you emotionally love the Greatest Creator. When you go against the laws and rules of nature, you will be punished. For instance, regardless how many joss sticks we burn or how many times we kowtow in a temple, if we drink poison, we will surely die. This is the only way that things work. Merits and mistakes do not offset each other. A merit is a merit and mistake is a mistake. We will be rewarded for our merits and punished for our mistakes. No matter what great merits we have, as long as we make mistakes, even a slight ones, we will be punished for them. That is to say, even if we perform ten-thousand good deeds, we will still be punished for doing one bad thing. The Greatest Creator will not ignore a single bad thing no matter how many good things we do. So, we all suffer from illness and mishaps, be it the pope, the hierarch, the master, the emperor, the devout disciple or the lay person. Even a messenger of the Greatest Creator would not be given special grace by which to escape from the due punishment. Just do not assume that you will be saved from the consequences of your mistakes by following the Greatest Creator and taking his way. Therefore, the most difficult thing is to ascend to a higher space of LIFE by self-refinery and self-improvement because it is rigorous, meticulous, precise, and non-emotional. For instance, if the standard for a mortal to ascend to immortality is one hundred (100) points, then ninety-nine (99) points would never be enough. It is just like the eighty-one (81) hardships experienced by Monk Tang, not one single hardship could be missed in order for him to succeed. Therefore, we must remember that when we encounter sorrows, setbacks, and failures, they are hardships that we must traverse. This is karma. The sin we sow can only be dispelled by reaping a painful consequence. There is no alternative! Of course, we should never doubt the justice and mercy of the Greatest Creator. Absolutely beautiful things can only be enjoyed by the absolute LIFE. Absolutely beautiful things are boundless and endless and when we want to enjoy these unending and boundlessly beautiful things, we should focus on examining our LIVES and ask ourselves: “Is mine an absolutely beautiful LIFE?”. If not, we should focus our self-refinery and self-improvement on improving our quality of LIFE, rather than on absolutely beautiful things. When our quality of LIFE reaches the absolutely beautiful realm, then absolutely beautiful things will come to us. Let us bear all the miseries, frustration, and suffering with delight and march firmly toward the perfection and beautification of LIFE. Merits and mistakes cannot be offset. The will of the Greatest Creator is reflected by the laws and rules of nature. Let us strictly follow these rules and laws of nature and trek and climb, step by step, to the highest realm of LIFE. ========================================================================================== Lifechanyuan: www.lifechanyuan.org New Oasis for Life: newoasisforlife.org Lifechanyuan International Family: www.smcyinternationalfamily.org its good to have religious beliefs only those that promote morality not the ridiculous notions. Yes Deism does resonate Agree with what u explained especially the following The Greatest Creator has never talked with the human beings directly. The word of the Greatest Creator are hidden in the laws of the nature. to be specific, the Greatest Creator’s “speeches” are the equations in the physics, the molecular formula in the chemistry, the formula in the math, the structural formula in the biology and the cause-effect formula in the life science.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 12:12:18 GMT
I wouldn't say I am blessed but rather delighted to read your contribution to the community , as I am already aware of such universal truth. I share the same mindset and co-incide with all what u wrote. If u notice my profile. Deism shares almost the same concept. To believe in the creator nor in any religion. I would have love to quote certain things u wrote and express the elation I had as we hardly get contributions from free thinkers on this platform. However, i have to say the following in regards to your post: i dont see any way religious sects will share the same characteristics and would die off. As long humans exist, its unfortunate religion would exist. Religion does claim to know about heaven, even if it's a wrong concept, they belive if your virtues are greater than your sins, u will be rewarded heaven in after life. We cannot unify all doctrines in to one, as they will contradict each other but i get the message you are trying to say . Do u agree that doctrines were NOT a word of God directly communicated to prophets but rather there own intellectual insights? I shared almost the similar insights about religion in the thread " Religion a virus" in the spiritual board. Have u ever heard of the term Deism ? Please tell me as much as u can about Tao Having shared negative aspect of religion i would like to sum up, that it makes sense to hold critcisism against religion but nor the people ,as harmony and kindness is for all , we all were brought up in some religion, we were not willing to accept the universal truth when our cognitive dissonance wasnt allowing it to accept , may be they are in the phase of enlightment or even if not, love is for all. Thanks for sharing. It is good to have some religious belief, but to join in any organization, we are selling our freedom out. When we are thankful, we think of God instead of a pastor. Do people go to church every week? I don't think so. Revere God is in one's mind. whether religion will die off or not, let's walk and see. The Greatest Creator has never talked with the human beings directly. The word of the Greatest Creator are hidden in the laws of the nature. In a word, the word of the Greatest Creator is the Tao. To be specific, the Greatest Creator’s “speeches” are the equations in the physics, the molecular formula in the chemistry, the formula in the math, the structural formula in the biology and the cause-effect formula in the life science.----by Xunfen I heard of Deism before, but havn't paid attention to it. I think, you are rather resonat with Lifechanyuan values, we take the way of the Greatest Creator. Tao is the will of the Great Creator. I will post more about Tao. -------------- The Will of the Greatest Creator is Reflected in the Laws and Rules of Nature Xuefeng May 19th 2015 ( Translated by Transn and Edited by Kaer) Tao is the integration of all the rules and laws of the universe and includes the consciousness of the Greatest Creator. Therefore, the will of the Greatest Creator is reflected in the laws and rules of nature. If our thoughts, words, and deeds comply with the laws and rules of nature, then we will be rewarded by the Greatest Creator, but if they are against them, then we will be punished by It. Ultimate Tao can not be reached by active pursuit. There is no way to get rewards from the Greatest Creator by wishing for them, no matter who you are, how pious you are, nor how much you emotionally love the Greatest Creator. When you go against the laws and rules of nature, you will be punished. For instance, regardless how many joss sticks we burn or how many times we kowtow in a temple, if we drink poison, we will surely die. This is the only way that things work. Merits and mistakes do not offset each other. A merit is a merit and mistake is a mistake. We will be rewarded for our merits and punished for our mistakes. No matter what great merits we have, as long as we make mistakes, even a slight ones, we will be punished for them. That is to say, even if we perform ten-thousand good deeds, we will still be punished for doing one bad thing. The Greatest Creator will not ignore a single bad thing no matter how many good things we do. So, we all suffer from illness and mishaps, be it the pope, the hierarch, the master, the emperor, the devout disciple or the lay person. Even a messenger of the Greatest Creator would not be given special grace by which to escape from the due punishment. Just do not assume that you will be saved from the consequences of your mistakes by following the Greatest Creator and taking his way. Therefore, the most difficult thing is to ascend to a higher space of LIFE by self-refinery and self-improvement because it is rigorous, meticulous, precise, and non-emotional. For instance, if the standard for a mortal to ascend to immortality is one hundred (100) points, then ninety-nine (99) points would never be enough. It is just like the eighty-one (81) hardships experienced by Monk Tang, not one single hardship could be missed in order for him to succeed. Therefore, we must remember that when we encounter sorrows, setbacks, and failures, they are hardships that we must traverse. This is karma. The sin we sow can only be dispelled by reaping a painful consequence. There is no alternative! Of course, we should never doubt the justice and mercy of the Greatest Creator. Absolutely beautiful things can only be enjoyed by the absolute LIFE. Absolutely beautiful things are boundless and endless and when we want to enjoy these unending and boundlessly beautiful things, we should focus on examining our LIVES and ask ourselves: “Is mine an absolutely beautiful LIFE?”. If not, we should focus our self-refinery and self-improvement on improving our quality of LIFE, rather than on absolutely beautiful things. When our quality of LIFE reaches the absolutely beautiful realm, then absolutely beautiful things will come to us. Let us bear all the miseries, frustration, and suffering with delight and march firmly toward the perfection and beautification of LIFE. Merits and mistakes cannot be offset. The will of the Greatest Creator is reflected by the laws and rules of nature. Let us strictly follow these rules and laws of nature and trek and climb, step by step, to the highest realm of LIFE. ========================================================================================== Lifechanyuan: www.lifechanyuan.org New Oasis for Life: newoasisforlife.org Lifechanyuan International Family: www.smcyinternationalfamily.org ok after reading through your post it rang bell of Taoism and i did some research on it recently ..its more of a philosophy rather than a religion .. quite frankly i like it .. i like the fact u still praise the God nor Lzu Tao .. as some religious ppl will go nuts on some priests and saints instead of God. I have few things to share with u and would like to have your perspective on that : Is there a reason u choose the wording greatest creator instead of GOD ? what about the power corrupts , such as people in politics and those who have done mass wrong doings and are enjoying life .. why the greatest creator doesn't punish them ? continuing from the point above .. should we presume that every unfortunate event in our life is a punishment that we are serving .. rather than accepting that life does tend throw a mix of everything at us .. i am referring to the factors outside of human control .. not things like on which we have direct influence e.g if we rob a bank and get caught by police , that was called for . Do u concur with the idea that if we conduct our life with as much as close approximation to the ways of universe our transmigration would be in a better state than our current life? i concur that ultimate Tao cannot be achieved by active pursuit and thats the biggest misery amongst religious ppl today .. they are misdirected .. To conduct yourself with laws of nature and universe would appear an ambiguous term for the untrained mind . i do get the idea as to what u mean .. but would appreciate if u could comprehend it further in details and break it down kindly
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 12:21:02 GMT
" The way we get out of the worldly life is to expand our space. The way to enter the Celestial World is to compress the space between us and the Celestial Space. If we can freely expand and compress spaces, we can surmount the space and free ourselves from the constraint by the space." Ok so does this say that we get rid of space when we get out of the world or does it mean we move from worldy space to another space since we can't ever leave space? First, we should know that spaces can be categoried into matter space and anti-matter space. If you want to go to another country, we try to know more about this country, how to get to this contry, all the conditions. Then someday we can get there. It is the same for going to the anti-matter world. The difference is our body cannot get into the anti-matter world, only our consciousness(soul). Like the dream world, our memory. So we have to wait till we died to get into the heavenly world. Yes, we cannot leave space, as you see now, our body is now in matter world while our consciousness is in anti-matter world now. so does that mean our next trans migration will be in anti matter space always ... or it can be in another dimension as well , where the soul will latch on to some other matter to come into some sort of shape ., might as well be on earth again ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 12:27:53 GMT
2. the Awkwardness of Bible Xuefeng (Translated by Conglong) There were records about the origin of humanity in the “Genesis” of Bible: 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. 2.7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. 2.18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. 2.21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof 2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. 3:20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living. So is this how humans come into being? Let’s still have a look of what Bible says: 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. 4:2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground. 4:3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD. 4:4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering: 4:5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell. 4:6 And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen? 4:7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him. 4:8 And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him. 4:9 And the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper? 4:10 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground. 4:11 And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand; 4:12 When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth. 4:13 And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear. 4:14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me. 4:15 And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him. 4:16 And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. So, we have a question on the above records, Adam and Eve are the ancestors of humans, Cain and Abel are the first two sons of Adam and Eve, at that time, there should not be anybody else exist on the earth except Adam’s family, so why Cain was worrying “every one that findeth me shall slay me”? Who were going to find him? If what Bible recorded is true, there must be some other men exist except Adam’s family, and they must had long existed before Adam’s family. Otherwise, Cain would not say, “every one that findeth me shall slay me”. So if there lived other humans, and they were not descendants of Adam and Eve (back then, Adam and Eve only had two son, and Abel was killed by Cain), we can say Adam and Even are not the ancestors of all human beings, and what Bible recorded is only the story of origin of Israelite people. Bible only recorded the origin of the Middle East people, and not that of all human beings. So where do human beings come from? Bible is just another form of crowd control. like u said .. its for the middle eastern pll and not all human beings that gives a lot away to its fallacy .. do u have any records for awkwardness for Quran ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 12:45:38 GMT
ivy Small compared to the world's population, I'm sure. But I view this as a positive thing because that's how a niche is developed and groups are formed with common interests which ties people together. Such groups are better small I think anyway. Bonds work better in a small close knit community. Yes. He's omnipresent biblically so always present whether youre in church or not. So Tao just takes the message spread by religious figures like Jesus, Muhammad, etc. I thought it was a name to a god or something ,, that church remark was funny ... yes lotta ppl go to church, mosque , temples . my 2 colleagues pray 5 times a day .. shrug yes having a preacher attached to it is the only thing concerning , as we are taking the word of preacher nor God but lotta things make sense in sense in Taoism. just as lotta things make sense in other religious books as well .. its the foundation and underlying belief that is questionable. Shinto a Japanese belief doesn't have a preacher but it got tons of gods, .. Deism the ideology doesn't have it it too.. but it renders God to remote and non influential that i dont abide by it fully . so still exploring and living a kind and life full of love .. u want some Love Eli ?
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