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Post by Elizabeth on Sept 16, 2018 5:55:48 GMT
What are your top 5 favourites from these mythical/fake gods? My list (not in any particular order) 1. Isis 2. Frigg 3. Freyja 4. Balder 5. Chicomecoatl AztecHuitzilopochtli was the god of the sun and of war. He was the patron god of the Aztec capital of Tenochtitlán, where Mexico City now stands. The Aztecs built a great temple there in his honor and sacrificed many humans to him. Coatlicue was the goddess of the earth and the mother of all the gods. She also gave birth to the moon and stars. In Tenochtitlán the Aztecs carved a gigantic stone statue of her wearing a necklace made of human hearts and hands. Chicomecoatl was the goddess of corn and fertility. So important was corn to the Aztecs that she was also known as “the goddess of nourishment.” Quetzalcoatl was the god of learning. A wise god, he helped to create the universe and humankind and later invented agriculture and the calendar. He is often depicted as a magnificent feathered serpent. EgyptianRa was the supreme god and the god of the sun. The early pharaohs claimed to be descended from him. He sometimes took the form of a hawk or a lion. Nut represented the heavens and helped to put the world in order. She had the ability to swallow stars and the pharaohs and cause them to be born again. She existed before all else had been created. Osiris was the god of the underworld and the judge of the dead. He was associated with the continuity of life and was often shown wearing mummy wrappings. Isis invented agriculture. She was the goddess of law, healing, motherhood and fertility. She came to be seen as a kind of Mother Earth figure. Horus was a sky god who loved goodness and light. The son of Osiris and Isis, he was sometimes depicted as a young child. Thoth was the god of wisdom and magic. He was believed to have invented writing, astronomy and other arts, and served as a scribe to the gods. Nephthys was the goddess of the dead. She was a kind and understanding companion to the newly dead as well as to those left behind. MayanHunahpu was a god of the sun and the father of the first humans. A great hero, with his brother he defeated the forces of death and went on to rule in the heavens. Hurakan was the god of storms and winds. When the first humans made him angry, he swept them away in a violent flood. The word “hurricane” comes from his name. Ixchel was the goddess of the moon and the protector of pregnant women. She was often depicted as an old woman wearing a full skirt and holding a serpent. Chac was the god of agriculture and a great friend to humankind. He brought them rain and used his vast tail and fangs to protect planted fields. Itzamna was the state god of the Mayan empire and the founder of its people. Corn, chocolate, writing and calendars were among his many gifts to them. NorseOdin was the supreme god and, along with his brothers Vili and Ve, the creator of the world. He was also the ruler of war and wisdom. Frigg was the goddess of the sky, marriage and motherhood. It was believed that she knew the fate of each person, but kept it a close secret. Loki was the god of mischief and death. He liked to invent horrible ways to harm the other gods. His nastiness and trickery earned him many an enemy. Freyja was the goddess of love and fertility. She was very beautiful and enjoyed music and song. Fairies were among her most beloved companions. Balder was the god of light, peace and joy. A kind and gentle god, he was slain in a plot hatched by Loki. He was greatly mourned, especially by his parents, Odin and Frigg.
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Post by AmericanCharm on Sept 16, 2018 6:04:57 GMT
1. Loki 2. Odin 3. Balder
Don’t like any others from those options, if Greek and Roman gods were choices they would fill up my top 10.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Sept 16, 2018 8:34:23 GMT
@romeo What about Svarog?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 9:11:29 GMT
Similar in sanskritic civilization
Brihaspat/Indra/Thor : God of Thunder. He is the lord of lords.
Loki/Vishnu: The act of mischeif of lord who is now known as vishnu in hinduism, and icelandic loki are comparable. The one avatar of vishnu, known as krishna, is instrumental in bringing war of mahabharata, which even loki does, by bringing ragnarok. This event is known as doom of gods, though there are variations in both the tales. It was krishan who gets indo-aryan king duryodhana killed by trick, and it ends the war of mahabharata, while ragnarok is brought by loki by getting baldr the good killed.
Odin/Shukra: He was far above in everything, and was god of asuras. Though, he was shrewd and cunning, but was racist every bit.
Lord Freyja with gullinbursti/Varaha in sanskrit, i have found huge similarity in these INDO-EUROPEAN LORDS. This name is the basis or root for the sanskritic word BRAHAMNA, PRIEST/PUROHITA, which means FIRST COMER. The Sanskrit word Varāha (Devanagari: वराह) means "wild boar" and comes from the Proto-Indo-Iranian term uarāĵʰá, meaning boar. It is thus related to Avestan varāza, Kurdish beraz, Middle Persian warāz, and New Persian gorāz (گراز), all meaning "wild boar".[6]
The word Varaha is found in Rigveda, for example, in its verses such as 1.88.5, 8.77.10 and 10.28.4 where it means "wild boar".[6][7] It also means "rain cloud" and is symbolic in some hymns, such as Vedic deity Vritra being called a Varaha in Rigvedic verses 1.61.7 and 10.99.6, and Soma's epithet being Varaha in 10.97.7.[8][9] Later the rain-relationship led the connotation of the term evolve into vara-aharta, which means "bringer of good things".[9]
The term's etymology is ultimately from a PIE *pro-w-(y)o-s, containing *pro- "in front" (c.f. first, Fürst and Sanskrit purohita "high priest", lit. "placed foremost or in front").[1] Variants indicate n-stems *fraujan-, *frōwōn-, the feminine *frawjōn "lady, domina" in Old English is attested only in a single isolated occurrence as frēo "woman" in the translation of the fragmentary Old Saxon Genesis poem, in the alliterating phrase frēo fægroste "fairest of women".[2] The stem was confused from early times with *frīj-, which has variants frēo-, frīo-, frēa- (a contraction of *īj- and a following back vowel) beside a less frequent frīg- (/fri:j-/), by development of a glide between ī and a following front vowel. The two forms would originally have figured in complementary distribution within the same paradigm (e.g. masculine nominative singular frēo, masculine genitive singular frīges), but in attested Old English analogical forms are already present and the distribution is no longer complementary[3]
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Post by Διαμονδ on Sept 16, 2018 9:13:34 GMT
// In my case, none of these. I am a tru Slav. Yesterday I saw Polish tourists in Zbarazh castle..the Poles are planning to Annex Eastern Galicia?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 9:15:48 GMT
There's a cognration of sanskritic SHUKRA and icelandic odin, germanic woden
In ancient India the alternative name for a deity (a deva, from proto-Indo-European deiwos) was sura. The word means shining or blazing. A second type of god, however, was the ansura or asura. These were 'not-shining' gods. The name is used by several Indo-European peoples, including the German tribes, who shortened the word to Os or As (Old Norse Aesir). Wotan is the Norse chief of the 'not-shining' an-sura. Here's that name.
Oldest cognate illyr.-alb. (*ĝhel-) diell 'sun' [alb.-illyr. ĝh- > d- shift]; Phonetic evidence: see Root / lemma: gʷel-1 : 'to stick; pain, death': gr. δέλλιθες 'Wespen', Hes.; βελόνη f. 'Spitze, Nadel', ὀξυβελής ὀιστός Hom.; aber βέλος n. 'Geschoß' wohl eher zu βάλλω, s. öber den sekundören Zusammenschluß mit letzterer Sippe unter 2. gʷel- 'herabtröufeln; werfen'; uber ὀβελός, ὀβολός, ark. dor. ὀδελός 'Spitze, Bratspieß, Mönze' s. Schwyzer Gr. Gr. I 295;
gr. Kret. (*seĝhuel-) ἀβέλιος Hes. (i.e. ἀ̄Fελιος), gr. hom. (*heuu̯eli-os) ἠέλιος, att. (zero grade) ἥλιος, dor. (*heu̯eli-os) ἀέλιος, ἅ̄λιος [common gr. -kw- > -p-, -gw- > -b- phonetic mutation] : Old Indian ved. (*suu̯el) súvar, Gujarati surdj 'sun' : (*seĝhuel-) got. sugil, ags. sygel, sigel from proto germ. *sugila-, as.swigli 'bright, radiating' from *swegila-, ags. sweg(e)l n. 'sky, heaven, sun', swegle 'bright, radiating'.
1. Old Indian ved. (*suuel) súvar n. = (zero grade) av. hvarǝ 'sun, light, sky', Gen. (*suu̯ela) súraḥ = jav. (*suuelio) hūrō, Old Indian sū́rya- (*sūlii̯o-) m. (compare gr. ἥλιος), sūra- m. 'sun'; therefrom Old Indian sūrta- 'light, bright', Old Indian svárṇara- m. 'bright space, ether', av. x ̌arǝnah-, ар. -farnah-'shining fame, magnificence'; Other forms in Indo-Aryan: (*suu̯el-a)*suu̯ar- [in names] 'sun(god)' (Near-Eastern IA); Av.: OAv. huuarǝ̄ [n] (< *húuar) 'sun' (gen.sg. xvǝ̄ṇg < *huuánh); LAv. huuarǝ (gen.sg. hū < *huu̯ánh, next to hūrō = Ved. sū́ras), Sogd. (Man.) xwr 'sun', Middle Persian xwr 'sun', New Persian xwr 'sun', Oss. xūr / xor'sun' Maybe Afghan lmar, Waziri lmer, myer 'sun' from Old Indian svárṇara- m. 'bright space, ether'; Armenian arew, aregak, arev, Singhalese ira 'sun'.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 16:05:02 GMT
1. Loki 2. Odin 3. Balder Don’t like any others from those options, if Greek and Roman gods were choices they would fill up my top 10. Indo iranis or Icelandic Lords as a choice of british?
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Post by AmericanCharm on Sept 17, 2018 2:59:13 GMT
1. Loki 2. Odin 3. Balder Don’t like any others from those options, if Greek and Roman gods were choices they would fill up my top 10. Indo iranis or Icelandic Lords as a choice of british? Norse gods.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2018 3:57:26 GMT
Indo iranis or Icelandic Lords as a choice of british? Norse gods.
yeah I know, but the names like loki,thor,odin are icelandic names of an old indo-european ruling classes.
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Post by thesageofmainstreet on May 8, 2019 18:00:00 GMT
There's a cognration of sanskritic SHUKRA and icelandic odin, germanic woden In ancient India the alternative name for a deity (a deva, from proto-Indo-European deiwos) was sura. The word means shining or blazing. A second type of god, however, was the ansura or asura. These were 'not-shining' gods. The name is used by several Indo-European peoples, including the German tribes, who shortened the word to Os or As (Old Norse Aesir). Wotan is the Norse chief of the 'not-shining' an-sura. Here's that name. Oldest cognate illyr.-alb. (*ĝhel-) diell 'sun' [alb.-illyr. ĝh- > d- shift]; Phonetic evidence: see Root / lemma: gʷel-1 : 'to stick; pain, death': gr. δέλλιθες 'Wespen', Hes.; βελόνη f. 'Spitze, Nadel', ὀξυβελής ὀιστός Hom.; aber βέλος n. 'Geschoß' wohl eher zu βάλλω, s. öber den sekundören Zusammenschluß mit letzterer Sippe unter 2. gʷel- 'herabtröufeln; werfen'; uber ὀβελός, ὀβολός, ark. dor. ὀδελός 'Spitze, Bratspieß, Mönze' s. Schwyzer Gr. Gr. I 295; gr. Kret. (*seĝhuel-) ἀβέλιος Hes. (i.e. ἀ̄Fελιος), gr. hom. (*heuu̯eli-os) ἠέλιος, att. (zero grade) ἥλιος, dor. (*heu̯eli-os) ἀέλιος, ἅ̄λιος [common gr. -kw- > -p-, -gw- > -b- phonetic mutation] : Old Indian ved. (*suu̯el) súvar, Gujarati surdj 'sun' : (*seĝhuel-) got. sugil, ags. sygel, sigel from proto germ. *sugila-, as.swigli 'bright, radiating' from *swegila-, ags. sweg(e)l n. 'sky, heaven, sun', swegle 'bright, radiating'. 1. Old Indian ved. (*suuel) súvar n. = (zero grade) av. hvarǝ 'sun, light, sky', Gen. (*suu̯ela) súraḥ = jav. (*suuelio) hūrō, Old Indian sū́rya- (*sūlii̯o-) m. (compare gr. ἥλιος), sūra- m. 'sun'; therefrom Old Indian sūrta- 'light, bright', Old Indian svárṇara- m. 'bright space, ether', av. x ̌arǝnah-, ар. -farnah-'shining fame, magnificence'; Other forms in Indo-Aryan: (*suu̯el-a)*suu̯ar- [in names] 'sun(god)' (Near-Eastern IA); Av.: OAv. huuarǝ̄ [n] (< *húuar) 'sun' (gen.sg. xvǝ̄ṇg < *huuánh); LAv. huuarǝ (gen.sg. hū < *huu̯ánh, next to hūrō = Ved. sū́ras), Sogd. (Man.) xwr 'sun', Middle Persian xwr 'sun', New Persian xwr 'sun', Oss. xūr / xor'sun' Maybe Afghan lmar, Waziri lmer, myer 'sun' from Old Indian svárṇara- m. 'bright space, ether'; Armenian arew, aregak, arev, Singhalese ira 'sun'. Genghis Caveman L changing to R is not as frequent as we would expect, but it happens. There are indications that the Hebrews either originally spoke Indo-European or borrowed their chief god from that language, as the Arabs did with Allah (Helios). Yah-weh sounds a lot like the way the Romans pronounced "Jove." Also connected is the Greek minor wandering goddess, Io. The name is a compound meaning"Go! Get moving!" (related to English exit, adventure or, for that matter "go" and "away"). It indicates a terrifying prehistoric Mongol or Tatar invasion, scattering everybody living in the Caucasus.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2019 11:14:28 GMT
There's a cognration of sanskritic SHUKRA and icelandic odin, germanic woden In ancient India the alternative name for a deity (a deva, from proto-Indo-European deiwos) was sura. The word means shining or blazing. A second type of god, however, was the ansura or asura. These were 'not-shining' gods. The name is used by several Indo-European peoples, including the German tribes, who shortened the word to Os or As (Old Norse Aesir). Wotan is the Norse chief of the 'not-shining' an-sura. Here's that name. Oldest cognate illyr.-alb. (*ĝhel-) diell 'sun' [alb.-illyr. ĝh- > d- shift]; Phonetic evidence: see Root / lemma: gʷel-1 : 'to stick; pain, death': gr. δέλλιθες 'Wespen', Hes.; βελόνη f. 'Spitze, Nadel', ὀξυβελής ὀιστός Hom.; aber βέλος n. 'Geschoß' wohl eher zu βάλλω, s. öber den sekundören Zusammenschluß mit letzterer Sippe unter 2. gʷel- 'herabtröufeln; werfen'; uber ὀβελός, ὀβολός, ark. dor. ὀδελός 'Spitze, Bratspieß, Mönze' s. Schwyzer Gr. Gr. I 295; gr. Kret. (*seĝhuel-) ἀβέλιος Hes. (i.e. ἀ̄Fελιος), gr. hom. (*heuu̯eli-os) ἠέλιος, att. (zero grade) ἥλιος, dor. (*heu̯eli-os) ἀέλιος, ἅ̄λιος [common gr. -kw- > -p-, -gw- > -b- phonetic mutation] : Old Indian ved. (*suu̯el) súvar, Gujarati surdj 'sun' : (*seĝhuel-) got. sugil, ags. sygel, sigel from proto germ. *sugila-, as.swigli 'bright, radiating' from *swegila-, ags. sweg(e)l n. 'sky, heaven, sun', swegle 'bright, radiating'. 1. Old Indian ved. (*suuel) súvar n. = (zero grade) av. hvarǝ 'sun, light, sky', Gen. (*suu̯ela) súraḥ = jav. (*suuelio) hūrō, Old Indian sū́rya- (*sūlii̯o-) m. (compare gr. ἥλιος), sūra- m. 'sun'; therefrom Old Indian sūrta- 'light, bright', Old Indian svárṇara- m. 'bright space, ether', av. x ̌arǝnah-, ар. -farnah-'shining fame, magnificence'; Other forms in Indo-Aryan: (*suu̯el-a)*suu̯ar- [in names] 'sun(god)' (Near-Eastern IA); Av.: OAv. huuarǝ̄ [n] (< *húuar) 'sun' (gen.sg. xvǝ̄ṇg < *huuánh); LAv. huuarǝ (gen.sg. hū < *huu̯ánh, next to hūrō = Ved. sū́ras), Sogd. (Man.) xwr 'sun', Middle Persian xwr 'sun', New Persian xwr 'sun', Oss. xūr / xor'sun' Maybe Afghan lmar, Waziri lmer, myer 'sun' from Old Indian svárṇara- m. 'bright space, ether'; Armenian arew, aregak, arev, Singhalese ira 'sun'. Genghis Caveman L changing to R is not as frequent as we would expect, but it happens. There are indications that the Hebrews either originally spoke Indo-European or borrowed their chief god from that language, as the Arabs did with Allah (Helios). Yah-weh sounds a lot like the way the Romans pronounced "Jove." Also connected is the Greek minor wandering goddess, Io. The name is a compound meaning"Go! Get moving!" (related to English exit, adventure or, for that matter "go" and "away"). It indicates a terrifying prehistoric Mongol or Tatar invasion, scattering everybody living in the Caucasus.
There's a historical record about a king named Parshtatar of Mitanni, who ruled at aleppo
Parshatatar, Paršatar, Barattarna, or Parattarna was the name of a Hurrian king of Mitanni in the fifteenth century BC. Very few records of him are known as sources from Mitanni are rare. Most information we have about the kingdom, especially its early history and kings come from records outside of the state.[1] Dates for the kings can be deduced by comparing the chronology of Mitanni and other states, especially ancient Egypt, at a later date and working back the figures.[2] Information is found in the biography of Idrimi of Alalakh (or Alalah, which became the capital of Aleppo[3]). Parshatatar conquered the area and made Idrimi his vassal, Idrimi becoming king of Aleppo.[4] Mitanni in his time probably extended as far as Arrapha in the east, Terqa in the south, and Kizzuwatna in the West.[5] Parshatatar may have been the Mitannian king the Egyptian Pharaoh Thutmosis I met at the Euphrates River in a campaign early in his reign (around 1493).[6] Information about his death is mentioned in a record from Nuzi dated to the death of king Parshatatar, possibly around 1420.[7]
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2019 11:17:16 GMT
// It indicates a terrifying prehistoric Mongol or Tatar invasion, scattering everybody living in the Caucasus.//
This seems right. These people of Caucasus always seem to have been warring against each other, and trying to oust.
Even huns, alans, sarmatians were at loggerheads against each other, though I rather find it strange that how huns were even united and gave a challenge to roman empire, and almost came to decimate it.
And another thing, there's a hunnic warlord uldin, who has to be icelandic odin. Because, snorri's sagas and eddas always talk about men of asia.
May be, central asian males only look for females everywhere, and breed with them.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2019 11:19:19 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2019 11:19:43 GMT
The only person who has written about this is David K Faux, but, it's something which has been claimed as hoax.
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Post by thesageofmainstreet on May 10, 2019 18:09:51 GMT
// It indicates a terrifying prehistoric Mongol or Tatar invasion, scattering everybody living in the Caucasus.// This seems right. These people of Caucasus always seem to have been warring against each other, and trying to oust. Even huns, alans, sarmatians were at loggerheads against each other, though I rather find it strange that how huns were even united and gave a challenge to roman empire, and almost came to decimate it. And another thing, there's a hunnic warlord uldin, who has to be icelandic odin. Because, snorri's sagas and eddas always talk about men of asia. May be, central asian males only look for females everywhere, and breed with them. Indo-European Is Predominantly a Second Language for the Descendants of the ConqueredThe only problem I have is that such a superior species should have left some monuments in the Caucasus before it was dispersed. The Old Europeans they then conquered were Neanderthal-CroMagnon hybrids.
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