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Post by Elizabeth on Aug 29, 2018 21:03:26 GMT
Some say nature is God, some say it's a part of God, and some say it reflects God's goodness. Others say nature is rewarding to the soul. Shrug
What is nature to you?
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Post by Elizabeth on Aug 30, 2018 3:53:27 GMT
Then that'll suggest we release all the prisoners to continue to kill people and to molest children and stuff. It'll save the government money too so I guess that's a good thing? Why does it suggest that? The grounds of authority is law, justice armed with violence. It's also a fallacy to think that every person in jail is just waiting to do more shit once they are back in society, most murderers only kill one person in their life, normally due to the fact that it was an targeted attack on a very specific person. Yeah but serial killers like to stack up on victims Shrug
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Post by flow3 on Aug 30, 2018 9:37:01 GMT
In general for most people (and me too) nature mean just going out of the human made settlements. I guess if you want to give it some meaning it would mean anything unspoiled by human hand.
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Post by FireFoxAssassin on Aug 30, 2018 13:24:31 GMT
Oh but because they might've stolen a chocolate bar or been mean to another person now means I can: Give them viruses/infections, give them bad luck, make them go through physical harm or/and psychological harm, "divine punishment", send them to hell and have them burn for all eternity, the list goes on. Point is, punishing others isn't love, it's a way of controlling others using the reward and punishment tactic, and the origin of sin wasn't my doing, so why am I- no, all of us being punished for something we haven't done. Anyway I'm getting too involved in this and to be honest this deserves it's own thread so i'll sleep now (it's 2am for me ) Then that'll suggest we release all the prisoners to continue to kill people and to molest children and stuff. It'll save the government money too so I guess that's a good thing? No it doesn't. Prison is the literal standpoint of the reward and punishment tactic- Do anything bad and you get confined for the time of the severity of crime, which could be your entire life. And no, having no prisons will make the entire country fall unless there are enough rehabilitation centers for all of the prisoners at the moment (which there isn't in major countries like USA).
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Post by kusler on Aug 30, 2018 16:29:37 GMT
I despise nature, but I do so with a passion. I dream of a world where nature is not so much destroyed as it is redefined. A clockwork of pumps, gears, pistons and mechanical tubes, building a future totality, a Machine which has all in it and which is all itself. An artficial creation by man for something non-human.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2018 18:00:29 GMT
Nature does it better...double the nothingness...more the self. How do you get more "nothingness"? Internal nothingness and external nothingness.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2018 18:01:29 GMT
I am so funny and clever...I win the argument. You can't win if I'm not looking for a pedestal! Okay queen...
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Post by FireFoxAssassin on Aug 30, 2018 18:29:37 GMT
How do you get more "nothingness"? Internal nothingness and external nothingness. What's the difference?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2018 18:52:36 GMT
Internal nothingness and external nothingness. What's the difference? The internal and external are mediated through the nature of being as internal and external are dual relative statements of position. Two negatives cancel eachother out to leave a positive...ie "myself" without any distraction.
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Post by Elizabeth on Aug 30, 2018 19:07:56 GMT
The internal and external are mediated through the nature of being as internal and external are dual relative statements of position. Two negatives cancel eachother out to leave a positive...ie "myself" without any distraction. In math a positive and negative of the same absolute value cancel each other out otherwise they're just subtracted and are either positive or negative. And two negatives are added but remain negative. So philosophy and math are different on this then hmm.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2018 19:37:05 GMT
The internal and external are mediated through the nature of being as internal and external are dual relative statements of position. Two negatives cancel eachother out to leave a positive...ie "myself" without any distraction. In math a positive and negative of the same absolute value cancel each other out otherwise they're just subtracted and are either positive or negative. And two negatives are added but remain negative. So philosophy and math are different on this then hmm. Nothingness cancels itself out through nothingness. Considering the internal space of one self may be composed of nothing, this nothingness is merely a statement of relation to the boundaries which encapsulate it (the self) and effectively observes the internal space as negative in the respect an absence is there.
Considering the nature of nothingness is one of inversion of unity in multiplicity, as strict nothingness does not exist, these multiple divided aspects of the internal self effectively observe:
1) The interior self as deficient relative to the self mediated between it and the external, considering all deficiency is an observation of relation to something else. 2) These deficieciencies, of the internal and external, exist through nothingness (being inversive of unity). 3) The canceling out of the interior and exterior nothingness (inversion resulting in multiplicity and change of thought, emotion or act) is the canceling out of nothingness under its own weight, hence canceling out any deficiency as well (considering all "deficiency" is merely a statement of relation premised in multiplicity).
Now the canceling of a negative such as -1 + -1 (or -1-1) is not really a cancelation as -1 and -1 are effectively unifying as existing (albeit negative) entities in themselves. The canceling out of a negative through -1 - -1 may be more of accurate way of putting it where the negatives result in nothing.
So in one respect, and I will have to address this on a seperate thread:
1) Two negatives cancel themselves out into nothingness with this nothingness being an inversion of pure being where 0 exists as 1 in the respect it represents a point of inversion and not a thing in itself (we see this with 0 on the number line being a point of inversion between positive and negative values).
2) Two negatives result in further negatives.
3) Negatives exist dually through negative and positive relations, hence the negation of a negative may result in "nothingness" (but considering "nothingness" is merely an inversion of pure being it results in "indefiniteness" or "infinity" which exists as 1 in itself.)
So yes you are correct...and wrong...at the same time in different respects.
The observation of relation where there may be internal and external nothingness observing the mediation between these internal and external properties
"One can argue that 0/0 is 0, because 0 divided by anything is 0. Another one can argue that 0/0 is 1, because anything divided by itself is 1. And that's exactly the problem! Whatever we say 0/0 equals to, we contradict one crucial property of numbers or another. To avoid "breaking math," we simply say that 0/0 is undetermined. Created by Sal Khan."
This negation, through division, of nothingess can be argued as simultaneously resulting in both 1 and infinity as the same time in different respects where the act of division itself, observe in 0/0...is "one infinity"...and in these respects the qualitative nature of functions are in themselves quantifiable.
I may have to elaborate further on this point.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2018 17:19:23 GMT
In math a positive and negative of the same absolute value cancel each other out otherwise they're just subtracted and are either positive or negative. And two negatives are added but remain negative. So philosophy and math are different on this then hmm. Nothingness cancels itself out through nothingness. Considering the internal space of one self may be composed of nothing, this nothingness is merely a statement of relation to the boundaries which encapsulate it (the self) and effectively observes the internal space as negative in the respect an absence is there.
Considering the nature of nothingness is one of inversion of unity in multiplicity, as strict nothingness does not exist, these multiple divided aspects of the internal self effectively observe:
1) The interior self as deficient relative to the self mediated between it and the external, considering all deficiency is an observation of relation to something else. 2) These deficieciencies, of the internal and external, exist through nothingness (being inversive of unity). 3) The canceling out of the interior and exterior nothingness (inversion resulting in multiplicity and change of thought, emotion or act) is the canceling out of nothingness under its own weight, hence canceling out any deficiency as well (considering all "deficiency" is merely a statement of relation premised in multiplicity).
Now the canceling of a negative such as -1 + -1 (or -1-1) is not really a cancelation as -1 and -1 are effectively unifying as existing (albeit negative) entities in themselves. The canceling out of a negative through -1 - -1 may be more of accurate way of putting it where the negatives result in nothing.
So in one respect, and I will have to address this on a seperate thread:
1) Two negatives cancel themselves out into nothingness with this nothingness being an inversion of pure being where 0 exists as 1 in the respect it represents a point of inversion and not a thing in itself (we see this with 0 on the number line being a point of inversion between positive and negative values).
2) Two negatives result in further negatives.
3) Negatives exist dually through negative and positive relations, hence the negation of a negative may result in "nothingness" (but considering "nothingness" is merely an inversion of pure being it results in "indefiniteness" or "infinity" which exists as 1 in itself.)
So yes you are correct...and wrong...at the same time in different respects.
The observation of relation where there may be internal and external nothingness observing the mediation between these internal and external properties
"One can argue that 0/0 is 0, because 0 divided by anything is 0. Another one can argue that 0/0 is 1, because anything divided by itself is 1. And that's exactly the problem! Whatever we say 0/0 equals to, we contradict one crucial property of numbers or another. To avoid "breaking math," we simply say that 0/0 is undetermined. Created by Sal Khan."
This negation, through division, of nothingess can be argued as simultaneously resulting in both 1 and infinity as the same time in different respects where the act of division itself, observe in 0/0...is "one infinity"...and in these respects the qualitative nature of functions are in themselves quantifiable.
I may have to elaborate further on this point.
Anyhow to get back to the point about nature: 1) Nature acts as a means of balance as it negates any distraction of not just the outside world but the inherent world of emotion and memory within. 2) This act of balance in turn helps to balance oneself as one becomes what they reflect upon. 3) Simplicity and peace are found within the destruction of distraction allowing one not just to focus there energy on themselves, but other's and the environment around them...hence one is able to live in a continual degree of focus that gives foundation for this simplicity and peace.
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Post by EvilSpiriT on Oct 20, 2018 18:14:15 GMT
It is not only source of supplying needful stuffs to us, it is a gift given by god to us. We must take responsibility of saving it. then only we can pay nature back with gratitude, otherwise we'll just be a burden on nature with no productive work.
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