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Post by trixie on Aug 22, 2018 14:57:17 GMT
From what i am told, jews and muslims are the same race, genetically.
From what I see, they look the same and also follow stupid barbaric supremacist religions, belief-systems that have no place in civilized society.
However, physically speaking, jews and muslims look all over the place racially speaking, either really pretty and handsome, or really butch and masculine. In any case this explained why the arabic nose is found in both jews and muslims, because jews and arabs are the same race, semites. The difference between the roman-irish hook nose is that the arabic nose appears more round. Also, not all jews have a hooked/arabic nose, so it is often hard to tell the difference between jew and goy.
The word anti-semetic is thus ridiculous to use, unless someone both hates arabs and jews.
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Post by Elizabeth on Aug 22, 2018 15:02:21 GMT
I never heard that they're the same race but if it's true it makes sense a bit since they both have an Abrahamic religion to follow and seem hardcore in things that seem odd to society.
I wonder why they don't just unite and work together...hmm
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Post by kusler on Aug 22, 2018 15:08:25 GMT
I never heard that they're the same race but if it's true it makes sense a bit since they both have an Abrahamic religion to follow and seem hardcore in things that seem odd to society. I wonder why they don't just unite and work together...hmm If you talking about the Israel vs. Palestine conflict, it's not about race or religion, it's mostly about land, the claims to it and thus who it really belongs to. Also Trixie, Judaism is the fucking bomb.
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Post by trixie on Aug 22, 2018 15:13:55 GMT
I never heard that they're the same race but if it's true it makes sense a bit since they both have an Abrahamic religion to follow and seem hardcore in things that seem odd to society. I wonder why they don't just unite and work together...hmm If you talking about the Israel vs. Palestine conflict, it's not about race or religion, it's mostly about land, the claims to it and thus who it really belongs to. Also Trixie, Judaism is the fucking bomb. Yeah it is the "bomb". It was a Jew (Oppenheimer) who invented the nuclear bomb. And so we have Jews to thank for that. As homicidal as Hitler was, even he thought nuclear bombs were Jew science and crossing the line. How low do you have to go when even someone as murderous as Hitler thought something was so evil it was crossing the line of decency. And then America pats itself on the back after it nukes thousands of Japanese kids and causes both Japanese and Americans to be mentally fucked up beyond repair, causing symptoms like PTSD and paranoia disorder, we can't even feel safe and secure even in our own homes anymore. Like people can't even feel like they have a fighting chance. And this messes up the psychology of the entire planet. Also, Jews and Muslims do work together to a certain extent, the middle east is a powerhouse of oil interest and corrupt politics. As for why they don't work together more...never underestimate the power of religious zealotry and delusion.
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Post by Elizabeth on Aug 22, 2018 15:18:06 GMT
I never heard that they're the same race but if it's true it makes sense a bit since they both have an Abrahamic religion to follow and seem hardcore in things that seem odd to society. I wonder why they don't just unite and work together...hmm If you talking about the Israel vs. Palestine conflict, it's not about race or religion, it's mostly about land, the claims to it and thus who it really belongs to. Also Trixie, Judaism is the fucking bomb. Actually, no. I don't even know what that conflict is. I just meant that their Abrahamic religions bring a lot of deaths and so they're similar on that. Judaism with its animal sacrifices and muslims with killing humans (think they call it honor killing and stuff). Anywho meant they should form a team since they're similiar in ways Shrug
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Post by kusler on Aug 22, 2018 15:22:34 GMT
If you talking about the Israel vs. Palestine conflict, it's not about race or religion, it's mostly about land, the claims to it and thus who it really belongs to. Also Trixie, Judaism is the fucking bomb. Yeah it is the "bomb". It was a Jew (Oppenheimer) who invented the nuclear bomb. And so we have Jews to thank for that. As homicidal as Hitler was, even he thought nuclear bombs were Jew science and crossing the line. How low do you have to go when even someone as murderous as Hitler thought something was so evil it was crossing the line of decency. And then America pats itself on the back after it nukes thousands of Japanese kids and causes both Japanese and Americans to be mentally fucked up beyond repair, causing symptoms like PTSD and paranoia disorder, we can't even feel safe and secure even in our own homes anymore. Like people can't even feel like they have a fighting chance. And this messes up the psychology of the entire planet. Also, Jews and Muslims do work together to a certain extent, the middle east is a powerhouse of oil interest and corrupt politics. As for why they don't work together more...never underestimate the power of religious zealotry and delusion. Judaism as in, the religion, is connected to Jews, as it is their traditional faith, but it isn't Jews as such. I like the religion, I am indifferent to the people tbh. I also don't know what to say to the fact that you equate Oppenheimer, or rather his deeds to the entire jewish ethnicity. Last point, which links itself to the previous one, I am quite sceptical to think that it was only him who participated. As far as I know, the Manhattan project was organized by american authorities, with Oppenheimer being a lead scientist, but not the only major one.
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Post by trixie on Aug 22, 2018 15:24:44 GMT
If you talking about the Israel vs. Palestine conflict, it's not about race or religion, it's mostly about land, the claims to it and thus who it really belongs to. Also Trixie, Judaism is the fucking bomb. Actually, no. I don't even know what that conflict is. I just meant that their Abrahamic religions bring a lot of deaths and so they're similar on that. Judaism with its animal sacrifices and muslims with killing humans (think they call it honor killing and stuff). Anywho meant they should form a team since they're similiar in ways Yes, you are very astute. The Jew and Muslim religion is identical in many ways, categorizing non-jews as inferior, unholy Goyim and describing ways to conquer and enslave the Goyim. Muslims, describe the non-believers as inferior, unholy infidels, and discuss ways and methods to conquer and enslave the infidels. And it is for this reason, the two groups should never form an alliance, us Goys would always be their slaves.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Aug 22, 2018 16:09:08 GMT
Maybe it’s been said in another post already, but Jews and Muslims aren’t races of people, they’re both religions; Islam and Judaism. Ethnic Jews don’t exist today, they were dispersed after Rome sieged Jerusalem in 70AD; it is impossible to find someone who is a full on ethnic Jew, as in of Judea. The Jews were either killed, fled, or were taken away to other regions as slaves in where they mixed with other ethnicities(goyim according to them). As far as I’ve read, very very few ethnic Jews stayed in the region and many of them abandoned Judaism altogether. I also read that many fled to Arabia, but were much later wiped out by Muhammad in the beginnings of Islam unless they professed Islam’s ‘Allah’ as their one true god and gave up all their possessions for Islam’s sake. A majority of the Jews(Judaism) living in Israel today are Eastern European(about 40%), most of which are actually of Russian descent.
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Post by trixie on Aug 22, 2018 16:35:55 GMT
Maybe it’s been said in another post already, but Jews and Muslims aren’t races of people, they’re both religions; Islam and Judaism. Ethnic Jews don’t exist today, they were dispersed after Rome sieged Jerusalem in 70AD; it is impossible to find someone who is a full on ethnic Jew, as in of Judea. The Jews were either killed, fled, or were taken away to other regions as slaves in where they mixed with other ethnicities(goyim according to them). As far as I’ve read, very very few ethnic Jews stayed in the region and many of them abandoned Judaism altogether. I also read that many fled to Arabia, but were much later wiped out by Muhammad in the beginnings of Islam unless they professed Islam’s ‘Allah’ as their one true god and gave up all their possessions for Islam’s sake. A majority of the Jews(Judaism) living in Israel today are Eastern European(about 40%), most of which are actually of Russian descent. According to Dr. Ostrer, that is not the case. "August 2012, Dr. Harry Ostrer in his book Legacy: A Genetic History of the Jewish People, summarized his and other work in genetics of the last 20 years, and concluded that all major Jewish groups share a common Middle Eastern origin.[9] Ostrer also refuted the Khazar theory of Ashkenazi ancestry.[10] Citing autosomal DNA studies, Nicholas Wade estimates that "Ashkenazic and Sephardic Jews have roughly 30 percent European ancestry, with most of the rest from the Middle East."" Also, if most Jews were killed off by early Islam, how then did Hitler find any genetic Jews? In a non-peer reviewed study (2016), a man claims that Jews do not exist genetically. "The authors, in a non peer-reviewed response, defended the methodological adequacy of their approach.[21] In 2016 Elhaik having reviewed the literature searching for a ‘Jüdische Typus’ argued that there is no genomic hallmark for Jewishness. While he allows that in the future it is possible that a ‘Jewish’ marker may turn up, so far, in his view, Jewishness turns out to be socially defined (a socionome), determined by non-genetic factors" However, another study (2013) says that Jews exist genetically, but possibly only from the male. This would indicate that Jews aggressively expand to other cultures, breeding with foreign women while keeping the same dominant genetic male material intact. "Two studies in 2006 and 2008 suggested that about 40% of Ashkenazi Jews originate maternally from just four female founders which are likely of Near-Eastern origin, while the populations of Sephardi and Mizrahi Jewish communities "showed no evidence for a narrow founder effect".[27][25] With the exception of Ethiopian Jews and Indian Jews, it has been argued that all of the various Jewish populations have components of mitochondrial genomes that were of Middle Eastern origin.[28][5] In 2013, however, Richards et al. published work suggesting that an overwhelming majority of Ashkenazi Jewish maternal ancestry, estimated at "80 percent of Ashkenazi maternal ancestry comes from women indigenous to Europe, and [only] 8 percent from the Near East, with the rest uncertain",[29] suggesting that Jewish males migrated to Europe and took new wives from the local population, and converted them to Judaism. Another study by Eva Fernandez and her colleagues argues that the K lineages (claimed to be European in origin by Richards et al.) in Ashkenazi Jews might have an ancient Near Eastern source.[30] Paternal lineage, Y chromosome In 1992 G. Lucotte and F. David were the first genetic researchers to have documented a common paternal genetic heritage between Sephardi and Ashkenazi Jews.[31][32] Another study published just a year later suggested the Middle Eastern origin of Jewish paternal lineages.[33] In 2000, M. Hammer, et al. conducted a study on 1371 men and definitively established that part of the paternal gene pool of Jewish communities in Europe, North Africa and Middle East came from a common Middle East ancestral population. They suggested that most Jewish communities in the Diaspora remained relatively isolated and endogamous compared to non-Jewish neighbor populations"
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Post by DKTrav88 on Aug 22, 2018 17:16:14 GMT
Maybe it’s been said in another post already, but Jews and Muslims aren’t races of people, they’re both religions; Islam and Judaism. Ethnic Jews don’t exist today, they were dispersed after Rome sieged Jerusalem in 70AD; it is impossible to find someone who is a full on ethnic Jew, as in of Judea. The Jews were either killed, fled, or were taken away to other regions as slaves in where they mixed with other ethnicities(goyim according to them). As far as I’ve read, very very few ethnic Jews stayed in the region and many of them abandoned Judaism altogether. I also read that many fled to Arabia, but were much later wiped out by Muhammad in the beginnings of Islam unless they professed Islam’s ‘Allah’ as their one true god and gave up all their possessions for Islam’s sake. A majority of the Jews(Judaism) living in Israel today are Eastern European(about 40%), most of which are actually of Russian descent. According to Dr. Ostrer, that is not the case. "August 2012, Dr. Harry Ostrer in his book Legacy: A Genetic History of the Jewish People, summarized his and other work in genetics of the last 20 years, and concluded that all major Jewish groups share a common Middle Eastern origin.[9] Ostrer also refuted the Khazar theory of Ashkenazi ancestry.[10] Citing autosomal DNA studies, Nicholas Wade estimates that "Ashkenazic and Sephardic Jews have roughly 30 percent European ancestry, with most of the rest from the Middle East."" Also, if most Jews were killed off by early Islam, how then did Hitler find any genetic Jews? In a non-peer reviewed study (2016), a man claims that Jews do not exist genetically. "The authors, in a non peer-reviewed response, defended the methodological adequacy of their approach.[21] In 2016 Elhaik having reviewed the literature searching for a ‘Jüdische Typus’ argued that there is no genomic hallmark for Jewishness. While he allows that in the future it is possible that a ‘Jewish’ marker may turn up, so far, in his view, Jewishness turns out to be socially defined (a socionome), determined by non-genetic factors" However, another study (2013) says that Jews exist genetically, but possibly only from the male. This would indicate that Jews aggressively expand to other cultures, breeding with foreign women while keeping the same dominant genetic male material intact. "Two studies in 2006 and 2008 suggested that about 40% of Ashkenazi Jews originate maternally from just four female founders which are likely of Near-Eastern origin, while the populations of Sephardi and Mizrahi Jewish communities "showed no evidence for a narrow founder effect".[27][25] With the exception of Ethiopian Jews and Indian Jews, it has been argued that all of the various Jewish populations have components of mitochondrial genomes that were of Middle Eastern origin.[28][5] In 2013, however, Richards et al. published work suggesting that an overwhelming majority of Ashkenazi Jewish maternal ancestry, estimated at "80 percent of Ashkenazi maternal ancestry comes from women indigenous to Europe, and [only] 8 percent from the Near East, with the rest uncertain",[29] suggesting that Jewish males migrated to Europe and took new wives from the local population, and converted them to Judaism. Another study by Eva Fernandez and her colleagues argues that the K lineages (claimed to be European in origin by Richards et al.) in Ashkenazi Jews might have an ancient Near Eastern source.[30] Paternal lineage, Y chromosome In 1992 G. Lucotte and F. David were the first genetic researchers to have documented a common paternal genetic heritage between Sephardi and Ashkenazi Jews.[31][32] Another study published just a year later suggested the Middle Eastern origin of Jewish paternal lineages.[33] In 2000, M. Hammer, et al. conducted a study on 1371 men and definitively established that part of the paternal gene pool of Jewish communities in Europe, North Africa and Middle East came from a common Middle East ancestral population. They suggested that most Jewish communities in the Diaspora remained relatively isolated and endogamous compared to non-Jewish neighbor populations" Your citations agree with me... They say they are of middle eastern origin, but not full middle eastern today. One even says they mixed with Europeans, which goes right along with what I was saying about Jews today, how they are 40% European in Israel. “Also, if most Jews were killed off by early Islam, how then did Hitler find any genetic Jews?” I never made this claim, I said many fled to Arabia and were killed (generations) later my Muhammad. I didn’t say “most”. Sure, the Jews Hitler killed may have been related to Jews of middle eastern origin, but they were still mixed with other ethnicities. I made the claim that there are no full on ethnic Jews anymore, which is true according to your citations. There is no doubt that they have middle eastern background, I’m sure a lot of Italians and Spanish people do as well, and even some Mexicans for that matter, but they are not fully middle eastern. Everyone is mixed these days. Example? My mother’s maiden name is Jewish, so I probably have middle eastern in my blood, very very little, but it is there nonetheless, but that does not make me a full on ethnic Jew, nor would I ever claim to be.
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Post by trixie on Aug 22, 2018 17:22:21 GMT
That is not exactly how you wrote it.
You said, "A majority of the Jews(Judaism) living in Israel today are Eastern European(about 40%), most of which are actually of Russian descent."
Implying they are 40% euro, and the rest of their genetics are Russian.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Aug 22, 2018 17:37:08 GMT
That is not exactly how you wrote it. You said, "A majority of the Jews(Judaism) living in Israel today are Eastern European(about 40%), most of which are actually of Russian descent." Implying they are 40% euro, and the rest of their genetics are Russian. I apologize, I made a mistake in my wording and quoted the incorrect numbers. It’s about 30% of the Jews in Israel who are of Eastern European descent, and 15% of those Eastern Europeans are of Russian descent.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Aug 22, 2018 18:00:04 GMT
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Post by fschmidt on Aug 23, 2018 2:36:43 GMT
From what i am told, jews and muslims are the same race, genetically. Muslims are not a race, they are followers of a religion. Abrahamic religions were the basis of Western civilization for the last 1500 years. It is modern culture that is stupid and barbaric and has no place in civilized society. I agree. I wonder why they [judaists and muslims] don't just unite and work together...hmm Because multiculturalism doesn't work. It was a Jew (Oppenheimer) who invented the nuclear bomb. And so we have Jews to thank for that. As homicidal as Hitler was, even he thought nuclear bombs were Jew science and crossing the line. Where does this nonsense come from? It's all wrong. Oppenheimer had serious reservations about developing the nuclear bomb, but Lieutenant General Groves (not jewish) pushed the project forward. Hitler was desperately trying to develop the nuclear bomb, but he failed because he didn't have jewish brainpower. I just meant that their Abrahamic religions bring a lot of deaths and so they're similar on that. Judaism with its animal sacrifices and muslims with killing humans (think they call it honor killing and stuff). Anywho meant they should form a team since they're similiar in ways Judaism doesn't have animal sacrifices anymore. It is a direct violation of the Quran for muslims to kill other muslims. And don't forget that Christianity is also an Abrahamic religion. Judaism as in, the religion, is connected to Jews, as it is their traditional faith, but it isn't Jews as such. I like the religion, I am indifferent to the people tbh. Presumably you don't know much about judaism. It is better not to form an opinion until you are knowledgable about something. Yes, you are very astute. The Jew and Muslim religion is identical in many ways, categorizing non-jews as inferior, unholy Goyim and describing ways to conquer and enslave the Goyim. Muslims, describe the non-believers as inferior, unholy infidels, and discuss ways and methods to conquer and enslave the infidels. And it is for this reason, the two groups should never form an alliance, us Goys would always be their slaves. Every sane culture in history has considered itself superior to outsiders. The Athenians and Japanese are obvious examples. Only insane modern culture considers everyone to be the same.
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Post by Elizabeth on Aug 23, 2018 3:05:38 GMT
fschmidtI thought some still do. Then what do they do to remove sin now? And yes Christianity is an Abrahamic religion that's correct. But it's not ever been one of killings. For example, Judaism is well known for animal sacrifices in OT, Muslims allow for killings, but Christianity never did. Now, let me explain before you contradict because I bet I know what you might say. With Jesus in the NT it spoke about no more stoning people (like adulterers) and Jesus stopped actual deaths like this, NT spoke that animal sacrifices must be stopped, etc. And Jesus spoke to turn the other cheek and not to fight back to hurt anyone as we never saw Jesus use violence to kill or hurt anyone. So you might ask what about those people claiming to be Christians like the crusades and killing? Well, that's just it. It's just people claiming to be Christian only. I can claim to be a male, but it's just a claim and not factual Shrug
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