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Post by DKTrav88 on Jun 22, 2018 10:09:04 GMT
This symbol is used in occult freemasonry, As seen here, Why is it used in the orthodox churches? A little info about this symbol; it represents the all-seeing eye of the Great Architect of the Universe. It is used within Freemasonry to represent the deity neutrally (in whatever form, and by whatever name each member may individually believe in). It is a Rosicrucian conception of God; what is Rosicrucianism? It is an esoteric(occult) order built on the occultism of the ancient past which was/is concealed from the average man, provides insight into nature, the physical universe, and the spiritual realm. The occult focuses on astrology, alchemy, and natural magic(?). Rosicrucianism is specifically based on the Jewish Kabbalah, Hermeticism, alchemy, and mystical Christianity. Mystical Christianity? Christian mysticism refers to the development of mystical practices and theory within Christianity. It has often been connected to mystical theology, especially in the Roman Catholic and Orthodox Christianity (both the Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox traditions). “Mysticism" is derived from the Greek μυω, meaning "to conceal", and its derivative μυστικός, mystikos, meaning 'an initiate'. In the Hellenistic world, a "mystikos" was an initiate of a mystery religion. "Mystical" referred to secret religious rituals and use of the word lacked any direct references to the transcendental. In early Christianity the term mystikos referred to three dimensions, which soon became intertwined, namely the biblical, the liturgical and the spiritual or contemplative. The biblical dimension refers to "hidden" or allegorical interpretations of Scriptures. “"hidden" or allegorical interpretations of Scriptures.”? The Bible isn’t a picture book, and there isn’t anything “hidden” about the Bible. God did not hide His word from us. Going by this information we can conclude that orthodoxy is nothing more than a mystery religion. A mystery religion is any religion with an arcanum, or secret wisdom. In a mystery religion, an inner core of beliefs, practices, and the religion's true nature, are revealed only to those who have been initiated into its secrets. Ancient mystery religions of the eastern Mediterranean, for example, generally focused on mythic figures who had descended into Hades and returned or who otherwise exemplified death and rebirth, such as Bacchus, Orpheus, Osiris, and Tammuz. In other words, a mystery religion is a pagan religion. Therefore, orthodoxy is a pagan mystery religion with occult aspirations. Paganism took over the Orthodox Church? The connection between the pre-Christian pagan doctrine of deification and icon/relic worship in Eastern Orthodoxy is obvious. When the pagans took over the Orthodox Church, they brought their belief in apotheosis and their worship of icons/relics with them. The icon worship practiced today in every Orthodox Church was originally practiced by pagans since before the first coming of Christ. Feel free to post any additional information you come across.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 15:40:24 GMT
...Honestly, I do not understand all your both war with each other. Recently, I was told that my friend died a half year ago. I didn't know it. And reading about your debating I can't tell nothing good, because there's no good in such debates. I think that Christ was right, when He told that we must hurry do good things. I don't think that we have much time for do something good in our life. Peace. I’m sorry to hear your friend died 😞 I’ve never suffered the loss of a friend myself. I think I’ve said it before; when you see someone is wrong and doing the wrong thing and they don’t know it, are you going to watch them be wrong? Or are you going to tell them they are wrong and correct them? If you love that person, you will tell them they are wrong and correct them. If you don’t love them, you’ll just watch them be wrong and not tell them anything. Isn’t this a good thing? I don’t like debating. I like discussing. If we have a disagreement then we can either discuss it further or agree to disagree and move on. I typically, if we cannot come to an agreement, want to agree to disagree, but it has to be mutual. If the other person holds contention because they disagree with me, what can I do? I can do many things, so what should I do? I should thank them for their opinion and wish them a nice day 😊 I cannot make them like me or my opinion and I’m not going to compromise my beliefs just so they can be at peace; if we all did that, there would be no individualism, no free will or free choice or free thought, because we would all be too worried about offending someone else. Try being there when they are there at the moment they are passing on...alone with them. It was that way with me and my grandmother. Try being there when they are sick and dying...it is like that with my Aunt (Cancer) and Father (Congestive Heart Failure). Try being there to keep other's propped up...it is like that with my Uncle (Aunt's husband, who also has heart disease and is passing), my Aunt (sister of aunt, who suffer's from mental illness) and Mother (wife of my father, who has crippling arthritis). Or when my mother would go to the nursing home everyday, when I was a kid, to help the nurses suction fluid out of my grandfather's lungs and clean his diapers because of his advancement in alzheimer's. Or when her sister, my aunt, was dying of breast cancer. Try doing this when this is literally the last of your family....this is where real faith comes in to play...something you talk about but no nothing of. Do you even know what it is like to be truly dependent upon God? And actually "know", not believe, that no matter how dark it gets everything will be alright? Life will continue? You talk about faith like it is some cheap thing that comes out of book...you quote words you know nothing about. You are a hypocrite....what have you done in Christian "duty" for the sick and dying? And you claim we are going to hell? For what? You are a fake Christian with no sense of compassion or mercy....based upon what little we have seen here you are more of a coward than anything else and are the reason people distrust and hate Christians so much....no wonder there is so much atheism. This is why I have a problem with you, in all frankness, you make Christianity look cold and empty. You don't believe God's mercy will overcome our sin's? It is mercy, love and compassion...not cheap words...people need at the end of the day...not judgement. Your scripture says to take care of the sick is the foundation of faith...unless you have dealt with personal loss or have taken care of the sick, or given friendship to those who are rejected by their peers...you don't have any beliefs.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jun 23, 2018 16:26:09 GMT
I’m sorry to hear your friend died 😞 I’ve never suffered the loss of a friend myself. I think I’ve said it before; when you see someone is wrong and doing the wrong thing and they don’t know it, are you going to watch them be wrong? Or are you going to tell them they are wrong and correct them? If you love that person, you will tell them they are wrong and correct them. If you don’t love them, you’ll just watch them be wrong and not tell them anything. Isn’t this a good thing? I don’t like debating. I like discussing. If we have a disagreement then we can either discuss it further or agree to disagree and move on. I typically, if we cannot come to an agreement, want to agree to disagree, but it has to be mutual. If the other person holds contention because they disagree with me, what can I do? I can do many things, so what should I do? I should thank them for their opinion and wish them a nice day 😊 I cannot make them like me or my opinion and I’m not going to compromise my beliefs just so they can be at peace; if we all did that, there would be no individualism, no free will or free choice or free thought, because we would all be too worried about offending someone else. Try being there when they are there at the moment they are passing on...alone with them. It was that way with me and my grandmother. Try being there when they are sick and dying...it is like that with my Aunt (Cancer) and Father (Congestive Heart Failure). Try being there to keep other's propped up...it is like that with my Uncle (Aunt's husband, who also has heart disease and is passing), my Aunt (sister of aunt, who suffer's from mental illness) and Mother (wife of my father, who has crippling arthritis). Or when my mother would go to the nursing home everyday, when I was a kid, to help the nurses suction fluid out of my grandfather's lungs and clean his diapers because of his advancement in alzheimer's. Or when her sister, my aunt, was dying of breast cancer. Try doing this when this is literally the last of your family....this is where real faith comes in to play...something you talk about but no nothing of. Do you even know what it is like to be truly dependent upon God? And actually "know", not believe, that no matter how dark it gets everything will be alright? Life will continue? You talk about faith like it is some cheap thing that comes out of book...you quote words you know nothing about. You are a hypocrite....what have you done in Christian "duty" for the sick and dying? And you claim we are going to hell? For what? You are a fake Christian with no sense of compassion or mercy....based upon what little we have seen here you are more of a coward than anything else and are the reason people distrust and hate Christians so much....no wonder there is so much atheism. This is why I have a problem with you, in all frankness, you make Christianity look cold and empty. You don't believe God's mercy will overcome our sin's? It is mercy, love and compassion...not cheap words...people need at the end of the day...not judgement. Your scripture says to take care of the sick is the foundation of faith...unless you have dealt with personal loss or have taken care of the sick, or given friendship to those who are rejected by their peers...you don't have any beliefs. This is a personal attack and nothing more, and this is he 3rd time you’ve done this to me when you have no clue who I am or what I do.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 16:31:28 GMT
Try being there when they are there at the moment they are passing on...alone with them. It was that way with me and my grandmother. Try being there when they are sick and dying...it is like that with my Aunt (Cancer) and Father (Congestive Heart Failure). Try being there to keep other's propped up...it is like that with my Uncle (Aunt's husband, who also has heart disease and is passing), my Aunt (sister of aunt, who suffer's from mental illness) and Mother (wife of my father, who has crippling arthritis). Or when my mother would go to the nursing home everyday, when I was a kid, to help the nurses suction fluid out of my grandfather's lungs and clean his diapers because of his advancement in alzheimer's. Or when her sister, my aunt, was dying of breast cancer. Try doing this when this is literally the last of your family....this is where real faith comes in to play...something you talk about but no nothing of. Do you even know what it is like to be truly dependent upon God? And actually "know", not believe, that no matter how dark it gets everything will be alright? Life will continue? You talk about faith like it is some cheap thing that comes out of book...you quote words you know nothing about. You are a hypocrite....what have you done in Christian "duty" for the sick and dying? And you claim we are going to hell? For what? You are a fake Christian with no sense of compassion or mercy....based upon what little we have seen here you are more of a coward than anything else and are the reason people distrust and hate Christians so much....no wonder there is so much atheism. This is why I have a problem with you, in all frankness, you make Christianity look cold and empty. You don't believe God's mercy will overcome our sin's? It is mercy, love and compassion...not cheap words...people need at the end of the day...not judgement. Your scripture says to take care of the sick is the foundation of faith...unless you have dealt with personal loss or have taken care of the sick, or given friendship to those who are rejected by their peers...you don't have any beliefs. This is a personal attack and nothing more, and this is he 3rd time you’ve done this to me when you have no clue who I am or what I do. So what....turn the other cheek. Let the mod's take it up. As to you...your writing alone expresses how "Christian" you are.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jun 23, 2018 16:34:55 GMT
This is a personal attack and nothing more, and this is he 3rd time you’ve done this to me when you have no clue who I am or what I do. So what....turn the other cheek. Let the mod's take it up. As to you...your writing alone expresses how "Christian" you are. And your writing expresses how ignorant you are assuming you know all things about people. You don’t know me but attack me anyway. Kick rocks
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 16:36:32 GMT
So what....turn the other cheek. Let the mod's take it up. As to you...your writing alone expresses how "Christian" you are. And your writing expresses how ignorant you are assuming you know all things about people. You don’t know me but attack me anyway. Kick rocks So much for turning the other cheek... ...you prove my point.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 16:58:37 GMT
For now I closed the thread so you can calm your nerves.
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Post by Elizabeth on Jun 23, 2018 17:00:29 GMT
Guys, stop this immaturity. Just say you agree or disagree with the thread and move on. Absolutely no insults to members personally. This is how productive discussions take place.
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