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Post by Elizabeth on Jun 1, 2018 6:11:29 GMT
Isn't there a religion that says after death you get reincarnated into animals? How does that work? And how did they come up with this or with what proof?
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Post by ajay0 on Jun 1, 2018 15:15:04 GMT
Certain scriptures in Hinduism states this. At the time of rebirth, the soul tends to take up bodies of that which is the dominant impression in the unconscious mind. Most men tend to be reborn as women and similarly most women tend to be reborn as men as the opposite sex is the dominant impression in the unconscious mind. In a similar sense, if there is intense attachment to an animal, leading to the animal being the dominant impression the unconscious mind, the soul tends to take up a body as that of the animal. The story of Jada Bharatha , a hermit who reincarnated as a a deer is famous in this regard. Jada Bharatha was a king who became a hermit in his old age and lived in the forest practicing spiritual austerities. Once he rescued a young fawn from danger, and cared for it paternally. The fawn grew into a young deer which the hermit was deeply attached to, to the point that the deer became the dominant impression in his unconscious mind. Upon his death, consequently on account of his intense attachment to the deer, he was reborn as a deer. Swami Vivekananda gives an account of Jada Bharatha in this link... www.ramakrishnavivekananda.info/vivekananda/volume_4/lectures_and_discourses/the_story_of_jada_bharata.htm This is but considered in Hinduism to be a very rare occurrence.
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Post by falconh on Jun 8, 2018 13:33:23 GMT
Isn't there a religion that says after death you get reincarnated into animals? How does that work? And how did they come up with this or with what proof? What a strange concept I haven't heard about this thing before please share with me also if you find anything related to it.
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Post by Elizabeth on Jun 8, 2018 20:52:53 GMT
Isn't there a religion that says after death you get reincarnated into animals? How does that work? And how did they come up with this or with what proof? What a strange concept I haven't heard about this thing before please share with me also if you find anything related to it. It's an Indian religion. I was talking to some Indian guy years ago briefly and he mentioned his religious belief. Basically, you never die but keep being reborn as different animals each time. If you get to be human again then it means you lived a very good life and god is proud of you or something like that. Shrug
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Post by falconh on Jun 9, 2018 15:47:42 GMT
What a strange concept I haven't heard about this thing before please share with me also if you find anything related to it. It's an Indian religion. I was talking to some Indian guy years ago briefly and he mentioned his religious belief. Basically, you never die but keep being reborn as different animals each time. If you get to be human again then it means you lived a very good life and god is proud of you or something like that. Strange seriously Strange and other thing is that the pray to cow as well according to this concept the cow they are playing might be human before ? and like this way they are praying to humans indirectly isn't it?
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Post by inferno on Jun 10, 2018 11:32:55 GMT
It's an Indian religion. I was talking to some Indian guy years ago briefly and he mentioned his religious belief. Basically, you never die but keep being reborn as different animals each time. If you get to be human again then it means you lived a very good life and god is proud of you or something like that. Strange seriously Strange and other thing is that the pray to cow as well according to this concept the cow they are playing might be human before ? and like this way they are praying to humans indirectly isn't it? Note that this is what every religion looks like to an atheist
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Post by jonbain on Jun 20, 2018 22:14:28 GMT
Isn't there a religion that says after death you get reincarnated into animals? How does that work? And how did they come up with this or with what proof? Well, I had this loyal friend. He is a good guy in many ways. We enjoyed cricket and other events together. Then one day, after 10 years, he just started stealing from me. But he always was friendly, and he was not in great need either, he just sort of expected me to forgive him and tried to get me to play games with him. But he kept stealing, blatantly; no attempt to cover it up either. But he also helped me in a fight - he had a certain loyalty and nobleness too. I couldn't really figure him out. In his next life, it would be fair for God to make him a dog. He'd be a good dog. But just don't leave your steak on the table when he's around. I can think of quite a few people like this. In the years to come, I think there will be a big epidemic or something, there will be many people who will die. And then there will be a population explosion of dogs. Its has to be like this. People choose their karma, see? One day I'll learn how it is that Scots train collies so well.
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Post by falconh on Aug 1, 2018 17:50:18 GMT
Strange seriously Strange and other thing is that the pray to cow as well according to this concept the cow they are playing might be human before ? and like this way they are praying to humans indirectly isn't it? Note that this is what every religion looks like to an atheist I'm not atheist but this thing is really insane how you can drink cow's pee
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Aug 2, 2018 5:51:58 GMT
I had an Indian Hindu buddy in elementary school. He said that if you were especially evil you go to hell. I'm guessing that's if you REALLY screw up though.
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Post by kusler on Aug 2, 2018 11:23:36 GMT
I think I will give the buddhist view on reincarnation. What is important to understand firstly is that in Buddhism, the soul does not exist, not even an "I" exists (Anatman). Reincarnation happens once one's consciousness dies. This consciousness is then "recycled" into a new one, like a corpse which sprouts new life from it. Your Karma determines the rebirth of this new consciousness. There are six planes of existence according to most schools:
1. The Hells, which is where those with extreme bad Karma go to, bottom of the barrel. Many cold and hot hells are described in the Tibetian Book of the Dead, all having ironic punishments in store.
2. Pre-Hells: Full of people who were avaricious, the best description I can give of who goes here are those who heavily endulged in one of the seven sins. They are ghosts with giant bellies but small mouths, thus not able to fully satisfy their hunger and thirst.
3. Animals: This is where your everyday-jerk goes to, being reincarnated in some sort of ironic way, like the rest.
4. Humans: Nothing much to explain here, most people with okay or slightly good Karma come here.
5. Asuras, Half-Gods (Demons): These beings live in luxury, but are envious and angry at the higher Gods for their power, causing relative suffering.
6. Gods, Devas: If you acted like a God, you will turn into one. Only the most kind go here. The Devas experience very little suffering and have immense knowledge of the human world and beyond.
With the exception of the material world (i. e. human and animal form), once your good/bad Karma is exhausted, you go back into human form. Imagine it like a credit card, if you have debts, you pay them of until the sum is 0, if you have money above 0 you can make yourself happy for a while until it drops to 0 again, 0 here being the human form you always return to.
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Post by Elizabeth on Aug 2, 2018 22:08:12 GMT
I think I will give the buddhist view on reincarnation. What is important to understand firstly is that in Buddhism, the soul does not exist, not even an "I" exists (Anatman). Reincarnation happens once one's consciousness dies. This consciousness is then "recycled" into a new one, like a corpse which sprouts new life from it. Your Karma determines the rebirth of this new consciousness. There are six planes of existence according to most schools: 1. The Hells, which is where those with extreme bad Karma go to, bottom of the barrel. Many cold and hot hells are described in the Tibetian Book of the Dead, all having ironic punishments in store. 2. Pre-Hells: Full of people who were avaricious, the best description I can give of who goes here are those who heavily endulged in one of the seven sins. They are ghosts with giant bellies but small mouths, thus not able to fully satisfy their hunger and thirst. 3. Animals: This is where your everyday-jerk goes to, being reincarnated in some sort of ironic way, like the rest. 4. Humans: Nothing much to explain here, most people with okay or slightly good Karma come here. 5. Asuras, Half-Gods (Demons): These beings live in luxury, but are envious and angry at the higher Gods for their power, causing relative suffering. 6. Gods, Devas: If you acted like a God, you will turn into one. Only the most kind go here. The Devas experience very little suffering and have immense knowledge of the human world and beyond. With the exception of the material world (i. e. human and animal form), once your good/bad Karma is exhausted, you go back into human form. Imagine it like a credit card, if you have debts, you pay them of until the sum is 0, if you have money above 0 you can make yourself happy for a while until it drops to 0 again, 0 here being the human form you always return to. Those who end up in hell...can they still be recycled later anf go somewhere else?
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Post by kusler on Aug 3, 2018 7:24:39 GMT
Yes of course, it is not eternal punishment like in Christianity, like I said, except human or animal, if your good/bad Karma runs out, you will be human again. It Buddhism, eternity is rejected, nothing is eternal except the Dharma and the Samsara which is produced by it.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Aug 3, 2018 7:29:15 GMT
Yes of course, it is not eternal punishment like in Christianity, like I said, except human or animal, if your good/bad Karma runs out, you will be human again. It Buddhism, eternity is rejected, nothing is eternal except the Dharma and the Samsara which is produced by it. Yes, I've heard of the Tibetan saying that, "everything is transient." Do the Buddhists believe that the universe passes away and is reborn in some kind of endless cycle maybe called a Kalpa? I think I've heard this somewhere but never cared enough about Eastern philosophies to look into it.
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Post by Elizabeth on Aug 3, 2018 7:58:04 GMT
Yes of course, it is not eternal punishment like in Christianity, like I said, except human or animal, if your good/bad Karma runs out, you will be human again. It Buddhism, eternity is rejected, nothing is eternal except the Dharma and the Samsara which is produced by it. Are Dharma and Samsara beings or concepts or what?
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Post by kusler on Aug 3, 2018 8:33:57 GMT
Yes. Dharma is like the christian Logos, the Word of the Brahman, the eternal Law which governs everything, which is everything. Samsara is the endless cycle of birth, life, death and rebirth experienced by individuals, planets, universes and even the cosmos and Gods themselves.
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