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Post by Elizabeth on May 5, 2018 10:25:55 GMT
Let's say you have a spouse. Your parents and your spouse had a disagreement and they asked you who you're siding with. So who would you side with?
If it matters what the disagreement is to you then vote based on who you think you'd side with more often with all scenarios considered.
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Post by Elizabeth on May 6, 2018 7:25:09 GMT
Yup. But I won't let anyone interfere in that even if they're not family. Just no one I don't think it's right, because the relatives of spouses are a part of society, and society has rights under any family. A family is just a couple of people, but the society is much more people. Arguing about something is to involve the society to the problem. Solving the problem is to address to something that is under the society's affairs. There's not need to be separated, unit families. All families must be opened as far as we can. A family affairs are society's affairs. Leaving families on their own is to make that 'small countries of tyranny'. One person ought not to be interfered, but a family ought to. But, I'm speaking here about the law family, because two persons living together is not a family. As long as they live like that they are untouchable. But as soon as they're getting married, they become an object of society, and loosing their daily rights. Growing children is the another reason for subordinating families to society's laws. The society is owner of children, not a family. I don't know but if I'm married and he and I have a problem or whatever then it's our issue alone and our business. I wouldn't want others interfering and possibly causing more problems. Nor do I think anyone should tell us where to live, how to name our kids, etc. I would actually see it as very rude if people interfere in my family like that Shrug
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Post by Lone Wanderer on May 6, 2018 7:37:40 GMT
I forgot adding this to my post:
If you (always) prefer your parents to spouse, then you shouldn't expect your relationship remains friendly and stable forever. Putting your parents, spouse, and the kids in a same basket is a mistake. In my opinion, your spouse is the closest person to you while your parents and kids should have their own stories.
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Post by Elizabeth on May 6, 2018 7:45:02 GMT
I forgot adding this to my post: If you (always) prefer your parents to spouse, then you shouldn't expect your relationship remains friendly and stable forever. Putting your parents, spouse, and the kids in a same basket is a mistake. In my opinion, your spouse is the closest person to you while your parents and kids should have their own stories. Yes! Spouse is the closest. Then I'd say your kids and then the other family.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2018 11:08:32 GMT
Yup. But I won't let anyone interfere in that even if they're not family. Just no one I don't think it's right, because the relatives of spouses are a part of society, and society has rights under any family. A family is just a couple of people, but the society is much more people. Arguing about something is to involve the society to the problem. Solving the problem is to address to something that is under the society's affairs. There's not need to be separated, unit families. All families must be opened as far as we can. A family affairs are society's affairs. Leaving families on their own is to make that 'small countries of tyranny'. One person ought not to be interfered, but a family ought to. But, I'm speaking here about the law family, because two persons living together is not a family. As long as they live like that they are untouchable. But as soon as they're getting married, they become an object of society, and loosing their daily rights. Growing children is the another reason for subordinating families to society's laws. The society is owner of children, not a family. I am a male gender so my answer will be like this. When a male marries a female, then husband is responsible to take care of his wife and kids. There fore he should be the one who is the lord of his wife. But must teach her. However, because the girl has trusted the male and chosen the man of her desires as his lord, so onus is on husband completely. In this case the wife gets more points than the males parents. However, because the husband is the lord of the wife, therefore even even the girls parents must not interfere. But husband must fulfill all the responsibility as a husband. Loving the wife, not beating her Also males parents must not interfere between the husband wife. Now cultured and understanding girls like Elizabeth are very rare in society but husband must side on his wife as she is the one who trusted. This is still a male being responsible even today.
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Post by DKTrav88 on May 6, 2018 11:15:10 GMT
I don't think it's right, because the relatives of spouses are a part of society, and society has rights under any family. A family is just a couple of people, but the society is much more people. Arguing about something is to involve the society to the problem. Solving the problem is to address to something that is under the society's affairs. There's not need to be separated, unit families. All families must be opened as far as we can. A family affairs are society's affairs. Leaving families on their own is to make that 'small countries of tyranny'. One person ought not to be interfered, but a family ought to. But, I'm speaking here about the law family, because two persons living together is not a family. As long as they live like that they are untouchable. But as soon as they're getting married, they become an object of society, and loosing their daily rights. Growing children is the another reason for subordinating families to society's laws. The society is owner of children, not a family. I am a male gender so my answer will be like this. When a male marries a female, then husband is responsible to take care of his wife and kids. There fore he should be the one who is the lord of his wife. But must teach her. However, because the girl has trusted the male and chosen the man of her desires as his lord, so onus is on husband completely. In this case the wife gets more points than the males parents. However, because the husband is the lord of the wife, therefore even even the girls parents must not interfere. But husband must fulfill all the responsibility as a husband. Loving the wife, not beating her Also males parents must not interfere between the husband wife. Now cultured and understanding girls like Elizabeth are very rare in society but husband must side on his wife as she is the one who trusted. This is still a male being responsible even today. You are exactly right
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Post by Elizabeth on May 7, 2018 9:22:18 GMT
I will side with spouse most often since we're a unit or act as one now. Parents are separate from us. Genesis 2:24 24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh. Plus, I usually always disliked siding with parents so I love this verse I quoted You can (almost) always get other spouse but you can't get other parents Some people actually go through many parents in life. Usually adoptive parents or foster parents. And sometimes grandparents or other family members like aunts or uncles can raise you depending on the situation. So parents aren't always blood parents sadly even. Some can even have more than 2 parents. I recently read a story that was both sad and cute. Two families found out the hospital switched their kids and the kids are like 20 or older now and they thought the reunion was nice but also didn't want to leave the parents who raised them so they decided to call both sets of parents mom and dad. It was adorable
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2018 9:28:12 GMT
You can (almost) always get other spouse but you can't get other parents Some people actually go through many parents in life. Usually adoptive parents or foster parents. And sometimes grandparents or other family members like aunts or uncles can raise you depending on the situation. So parents aren't always blood parents sadly even. Some can even have more than 2 parents. I recently read a story that was both and cute. Two families found out the hospital switched their kids and the kids are like 20 or older now and they thought the reunion was nice but also didn't want to leave the parents who raised them so they decided to call both sets of parents mom and dad. It was adorable Yes, sadly. I was talking only about biological parents.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2018 13:27:31 GMT
I don't think it's right, because the relatives of spouses are a part of society, and society has rights under any family. A family is just a couple of people, but the society is much more people. Arguing about something is to involve the society to the problem. Solving the problem is to address to something that is under the society's affairs. There's not need to be separated, unit families. All families must be opened as far as we can. A family affairs are society's affairs. Leaving families on their own is to make that 'small countries of tyranny'. One person ought not to be interfered, but a family ought to. But, I'm speaking here about the law family, because two persons living together is not a family. As long as they live like that they are untouchable. But as soon as they're getting married, they become an object of society, and loosing their daily rights. Growing children is the another reason for subordinating families to society's laws. The society is owner of children, not a family. I am a male gender so my answer will be like this. When a male marries a female, then husband is responsible to take care of his wife and kids. There fore he should be the one who is the lord of his wife. But must teach her. However, because the girl has trusted the male and chosen the man of her desires as his lord, so onus is on husband completely. In this case the wife gets more points than the males parents. However, because the husband is the lord of the wife, therefore even even the girls parents must not interfere. But husband must fulfill all the responsibility as a husband. Loving the wife, not beating her Also males parents must not interfere between the husband wife. Now cultured and understanding girls like Elizabeth are very rare in society but husband must side on his wife as she is the one who trusted. This is still a male being responsible even today. Thank you very much for answering! I think I agree on it, trying to say it in general: "a family needs a real man". And I think that not only a family needs it, but a city, a town, and a country at last. Because "a real man" is like a hero. It's not a just empty notion and appearance of masculine (like some feminists think), but a protector and a thinker - the one who cares about it, about the family. Yes, I do agree that talented girls (like Elizabeth... I think that Elizabeth now is feeling shy from these answers-confessions, but it is true) are interesting and very special phenomena. It's not a new one, because we've heard about lots of talented girls, like e.g. princess Turandot, Dhilaram (the checkmate of Dhilaram), Mary Wollstonecraft, Sofia Yanovska, Ada Lovelace, Elizabeth Anscombe and many others. And these girls are magnificent. I swear about it, cause my last passion was so. She studied Hegel (ones, who knows what it is, will understand me), and was more lot of smarter than me, so it was really hard with to find some theme for me, but it was easy at the same time not to suffer of schedule, or some other things which belongs to many girls. Anyway, a real man is always needed, even with wagon smart girls, because amazons are rather legendary than real. Here's a proof link.
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Post by Pothead on May 7, 2018 14:22:28 GMT
I would side with who's right
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2018 16:47:04 GMT
The spouse becomes a biological extension of the other through the act...I am not exactly sure a choice is necessary. But given the context I believe you are arguing of "family" versus "wife/husband"...spouse.
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