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Post by Elizabeth on Apr 27, 2018 11:36:03 GMT
I'm ok with saying the Galapagos Islands contain different animals or vary slightly more different in appearance compared to the rest of the animals on the planet. Shrug
So mutations or genetic differences can be present but they don't change you from a bird to a snake for example. So not a big change like that.
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Post by Elizabeth on Apr 27, 2018 11:51:53 GMT
So in other words you don't think the theory is right? I think there are some flaws or some exaggeration. That's all I can say at almost 5am . Trying to even remember everything about Darwin right now isn't going too well.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2018 14:01:54 GMT
Honestly, his theory is kinda weird. Mainly, because of his propositions on it. But biology as sociology differ from the other branches of science because of its not universal laws. Evolution is acceptable, but I don't understand of slowing and increasing periods of it. Why some species don't evolve today? Or we can't see many good changes, that could be signs of this process? Why species are so different? I can imagine that every creatures came from trillobites.
But, at the same time, evolution processes can be good explanation of filogenesis. Besides, more animals and plants have the same signs, and even behavior. Some plants can eat flies, or other tiny creatures. Even people are complex of all of these stuff: Plants are our hairs; Animals are inside our instincts; Sentiel is inside our great culture and art.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2018 15:17:02 GMT
Ahh finally, someone has touched this.
Since my childhood, I wanted to have a discussion on this
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Post by DKTrav88 on Apr 29, 2018 23:36:10 GMT
Micro evolution does happen, macro evolution has never been observed.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Apr 30, 2018 0:21:22 GMT
Well, there's a crap ton of evidence for it. However God says different and I believe God because he was there for everything and no one else alive was.
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Post by Elizabeth on Apr 30, 2018 0:50:08 GMT
Well, there's a crap ton of evidence for it. However God says different and I believe God because he was there for everything and no one else alive was. Science is known to making mistakes too. Plus, God said in the bible (I can quote it if needed) that the flood waters and everything was returned to such a normal state you wouldn't know it happened with scientific methods.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Apr 30, 2018 0:53:24 GMT
Well, there's a crap ton of evidence for it. However God says different and I believe God because he was there for everything and no one else alive was. Science is known to making mistakes too. Plus, God said in the bible (I can quote it if needed) that the flood waters and everything was returned to such a normal state you wouldn't know it happened with scientific methods. Ah, I don't care about scientific methods. I defer to my experience on this. The God of the Bible spoke to me clearly. In said Bible it tells a totally different story than Darwin does. I tend to believe God who I know is real over Darwin.
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Post by Elizabeth on Apr 30, 2018 0:59:30 GMT
Science is known to making mistakes too. Plus, God said in the bible (I can quote it if needed) that the flood waters and everything was returned to such a normal state you wouldn't know it happened with scientific methods. Ah, I don't care about scientific methods. I defer to my experience on this. The God of the Bible spoke to me clearly. In said Bible it tells a totally different story than Darwin does. I tend to believe God who I know is real over Darwin. I think you're smarter than Darwin ever was then!
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Apr 30, 2018 1:01:42 GMT
Ah, I don't care about scientific methods. I defer to my experience on this. The God of the Bible spoke to me clearly. In said Bible it tells a totally different story than Darwin does. I tend to believe God who I know is real over Darwin. I think you're smarter than Darwin ever was then! It doesn't take a smart person to defer to the all powerful, all knowing, all present, eternal being who created the planet on matters of history, biology, and how the world was created. Charles Darwin was a smart man, he just didn't have the good luck to see what I've seen.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Apr 30, 2018 6:17:59 GMT
Micro evolution does happen, macro evolution has never been observed. Yeah, that's true. Small scale evolution where a frog or something adapts to a different environment couldn't be used to prove large scale evolution from a fish to a human over millions of years. If God didn't make creatures to where they could adapt to their environment that would a very bad design. What I'm talking about regarding proof for evolution that seems compelling but I do not believe on a matter of faith is the fossil record and radiometric dating.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Apr 30, 2018 6:38:09 GMT
Micro evolution does happen, macro evolution has never been observed. Yeah, that's true. Small scale evolution where a frog or something adapts to a different environment couldn't be used to prove large scale evolution from a fish to a human over millions of years. If God didn't make creatures to where they could adapt to their environment that would a very bad design. What I'm talking about regarding proof for evolution that seems compelling but I do not believe on a matter of faith is the fossil record and radiometric dating. You mean how they date the fossils via radio metric dating?
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Apr 30, 2018 6:38:58 GMT
Yeah, that's true. Small scale evolution where a frog or something adapts to a different environment couldn't be used to prove large scale evolution from a fish to a human over millions of years. If God didn't make creatures to where they could adapt to their environment that would a very bad design. What I'm talking about regarding proof for evolution that seems compelling but I do not believe on a matter of faith is the fossil record and radiometric dating. You mean how they date the fossils via radio metric dating? Yes. Also the fact that fossils get more complex as the layers of rock gets more to the surface.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Apr 30, 2018 7:05:34 GMT
Ok, I've should've make a poll. Seems lke creationists lead for now, so a question for creationist: what should the kids learn from biology lessons in schools if you don't believe Darwin's theory? Adding a poll I can do! I double checked too so totally can do it . Let me know if you still want the poll and let me know poll question and choices you'd want. But I don't mind the kids exposed to Darwin or biology. We all were anyway. Plus we all must decide for ourselves what to believe. :/ I agree. Scientific theories belong in science class. Its up to the parents to tell their children that evolution's wrong.
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Post by fschmidt on Apr 30, 2018 7:36:43 GMT
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