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Post by Elizabeth on Feb 10, 2018 5:37:06 GMT
It's the only one that makes sense to me biblically. What about for you?
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Post by DKTrav88 on Apr 21, 2018 6:14:40 GMT
What I said my protest wrong? I understood what you meant
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Post by Elizabeth on Apr 21, 2018 6:33:25 GMT
What I said my protest wrong? I understood what you meant You're a genius!
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Post by anthos on Nov 22, 2019 15:57:23 GMT
The Protestant Church is responsible for the crisis of spiritual life in the west! What is the Protestant Church? And what crisis are you talking about? Not all denominations of Christianity are Protestant. I’m an Anabaptist, we were never part of Catholicism and therefore not Protestant. The same goes for the Coptic Church in Egypt and North Africa. As for Catholicism, have you ever looked up the definition of vicar as in the Vicar of Christ? Vicarius Christi. "Vicarius" or "Vicar" means "a substitute" or "another" (See any Dictionary: Oxford, Random House, American, Webster's, etc.). Thus, the title "Vicar of Christ" means "a substitute for Christ" or "another Christ." All Catholics and Protestants are in agreement that Christ is God, and that makes this title all the more blasphemous; because then it means "a substitute for God" or "another God." It must also be noted for the sincere Catholic that in Greek the title "Vicar of Christ" is "anti-christos" or "anti-Christ" (See Strong's #473 & 5547). "
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Post by Elizabeth on Nov 23, 2019 1:43:30 GMT
What is the Protestant Church? And what crisis are you talking about? Not all denominations of Christianity are Protestant. I’m an Anabaptist, we were never part of Catholicism and therefore not Protestant. The same goes for the Coptic Church in Egypt and North Africa. As for Catholicism, have you ever looked up the definition of vicar as in the Vicar of Christ? Vicarius Christi. "Vicarius" or "Vicar" means "a substitute" or "another" (See any Dictionary: Oxford, Random House, American, Webster's, etc.). Thus, the title "Vicar of Christ" means "a substitute for Christ" or "another Christ." All Catholics and Protestants are in agreement that Christ is God, and that makes this title all the more blasphemous; because then it means "a substitute for God" or "another God." It must also be noted for the sincere Catholic that in Greek the title "Vicar of Christ" is "anti-christos" or "anti-Christ" (See Strong's #473 & 5547). " I agree with you about the anti-Christ thing. Also, I've been to several Anabaptist churches and I noticed 2 kinds. Some allow women to be pastors and such and the rest only allow men to be pastors. Which stance does your church take on this?
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Nov 28, 2019 2:42:56 GMT
I'm a protestant because I've read the bible.
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Post by KGrim on Nov 28, 2019 2:50:49 GMT
I'm a protestant because I've read the bible. You give the bible to 10 different people and they can give you 10 different interpretations. ap·per·cep·tion /ˌapərˈsepSH(ə)n/ nounDATED•PSYCHOLOGY the mental process by which a person makes sense of an idea by assimilating it to the body of ideas he or she already possesses.
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Post by Elizabeth on Nov 28, 2019 4:12:28 GMT
I'm a protestant because I've read the bible. You give the bible to 10 different people and they can give you 10 different interpretations. ap·per·cep·tion /ˌapərˈsepSH(ə)n/ nounDATED•PSYCHOLOGY the mental process by which a person makes sense of an idea by assimilating it to the body of ideas he or she already possesses. But that would mean that God isn't reliable. That He's not perfect and that He simply cannot be trusted on what He wants us to do. Yet, to me, no matter how many times I read it, I get only one interpretation only throughout the bible. This is how consistent my God is.
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Post by KGrim on Nov 28, 2019 4:35:52 GMT
Elizabeth No, it would not mean that God is unreliable. What's unreliable is depending on ourselves and the bible alone for the correct interpretation of the texts. Just because you get only one interpretation from the bible doesn't mean that you have the only interpretation or that other persons interpretations are not valid. Most people have a set of a priori ideas about God and religion that colors how they interpret the bible. Seventh Day Adventists, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, "Christian" Wiccans, and the list goes one. They all have different interpretations of the bible because they don't just perceive the words on the page, but they perceive and interpret those words in relation to pre-existing ideas that they gathered from different sources. It is impossible to read the Bible apart from preconceived ideas we already have about God and religion. Its not that God is unreliable. Its that we are unreliable.
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Post by Elizabeth on Nov 28, 2019 4:56:01 GMT
Elizabeth No, it would not mean that God is unreliable. What's unreliable is depending on ourselves and the bible alone for the correct interpretation of the texts. Just because you get only one interpretation from the bible doesn't mean that you have the only interpretation or that other persons interpretations are not valid. Most people have a set of a priori ideas about God and religion that colors how they interpret the bible. Seventh Day Adventists, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, "Christian" Wiccans, and the list goes one. They all have different interpretations of the bible because they don't just perceive the words on the page, but they perceive and interpret those words in relation to pre-existing ideas that they gathered from different sources. It is impossible to read the Bible apart from preconceived ideas we already have about God and religion. Its not that God is unreliable. Its that we are unreliable. So you are saying there's a correct interpretation then? Because I believe there is and if a person is searching for God with all their heart then they'll find Him. That's how God said you'll be able to do it. But if something has contradicting or false info I would dump it. Like I can't accept a math book where one chapter says 2+2=4 and another chapter says 2+2=5. I would say whoever wrote it doesn't know math and is stupid then I'd throw the book into the trash. If it was a religious book then same concept. It would be a fake invented god so I will dump the pathetic book into the trash. I've literally done so with some religious books!
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Post by KGrim on Nov 28, 2019 5:17:31 GMT
Elizabeth , Yes there is a correct interpretation, but you're not going to arrive at the correct interpretation if you rely only on yourself and gut feelings that you think are coming from the Holy Ghost. If you approach God in humility, God will approach you. God will lead a person into all truth, but only if that person is patient and has humility. We tend to get puffed up on our scriptural and spiritual knowledge and think that we have a solid understanding of things when really we don't understand anything as we ought to understand it.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Nov 28, 2019 15:48:08 GMT
I'm a protestant because I've read the bible. You give the bible to 10 different people and they can give you 10 different interpretations. ap·per·cep·tion /ˌapərˈsepSH(ə)n/ nounDATED•PSYCHOLOGY the mental process by which a person makes sense of an idea by assimilating it to the body of ideas he or she already possesses. I do not think that it is worth spending time on theological debates with local (and other Protestants) even Protestants from this forum do not have consensus on some important theological issues( and Protestants from other forums too). Protestants come from Roman Catholicism and so they inherited some Catholic errors. Some of them are supporters of the Filioque or crypto-filioque. Origins of Protestantism - news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3944549.stmInitially, the concept of "Protestantism" was associated with the statement (protestatio lat.) of April 19, 1529, with which the German princes (6 electors) and the Imperial free cities (14 cities), who supported Martin Luther, opposed the decision of the II Speyer Reichstag on the universal restoration of Catholic worship, saying that in matters of faith and conscience it is impossible to obey the decision of the majority. Later Protestants began to be called all out of obedience to the Vatican. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestation_at_SpeyerStrictly speaking it is the Lutherans who are the founders of this movement, But even Martin Luther (after the Anabaptist wars) admitted that the German peasants are not able to interpret the Bible.
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